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PATAKI MAN SLAMS BUSH (RINO Christian-hater rears ugly head)
NY POST ^ | November 10, 2004 | FREDRIC U. DICKER & ABBY WISSE

Posted on 11/10/2004 1:23:22 AM PST by Liz

ALBANY Gov. Pataki's top political adviser has trashed President Bush, attacked the "Christian right," and said Bush's re-election means Pataki can't become president in 2008.

The shocking comments by Arthur Finkelstein appeared in the Israeli daily newspaper Maariv, which also quoted the nationally known GOP consultant as saying that in the presidential election, "the Republican Party became the Christian right, the most radical in modern history ever."

Finkelstein, the one-time political guru to former U.S. Sen. Alfonse D'Amato, is also described by Maariv writer Boaz Gaon as "hating" Bush.

In the story, which ran last Friday, Finkelstein accused Bush of trying to "dictate to America how to live and what to believe in."

Finkelstein, who has helped run several Israeli elections, is also described as claiming Bush is more interested in banning abortion than he is in winning the war in Iraq.

And Finkelstein, who told a Boston newspaper several years ago that he is homosexual, described Bush's campaign strategy as being more interested in banning gay marriages than in improving the American economy.

Finkelstein, who is credited with orchestrating Pataki's stunning upset victory over then-Gov. Mario Cuomo in 1994, told the newspaper Bush's victory is bad news for Pataki, a social liberal who supports abortion and gay rights, because it means the "Christian right" is in charge of the GOP.

"Bush's victory not only establishes the power of the American Christian right in this candidacy, but in fact established its power to elect the next Republican president."

Finkelstein did not return calls seeking comment, and Pataki's camp did not return calls.

A prominent Republican familiar with the interview called Finkelstein's comments "a big embarrassment for Pataki.

"Arthur isn't comfortable being a Republican anymore when he's so unhappy with our success and that's why he's so flamboyantly bashing the president."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aptlynamedfink; arthurfinkelstein; corruptpoofter; flamingdramaqueen
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To: Liz
Oh, Upstate's just gonna love this...
21 posted on 11/10/2004 3:39:36 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla

Now be sure to pass the word far and wide (smirk).


22 posted on 11/10/2004 3:46:39 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Liz

You bet.


23 posted on 11/10/2004 3:56:24 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Liz
Finkelstein, the one-time political guru to former U.S. Sen. Alfonse D'Amato . . .

Most Freepers may not know this, but Al D'Amato lost his Senate seat to Chuck Schumer in 1998 after he (presumably on the advice of his "political guru") deliberately avoided seeking the endorsement of the Right to Life Party in New York. After the snub, the RTL party ran their own candidate . . . and D'Amato lost by several thousand votes in a race where the RTL candidate received tens of thousands of votes.

24 posted on 11/10/2004 4:00:18 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: Liz

Good points. This year I have read several of Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson's books exposing the genesis of the psychological profession. One of the most enlightening was THE ASSAULT ON TRUTH which exposes Freud's coverup of the vast tragedy of child molestation which was going on in that day. Women and children suffered immensely at the hands of known perverts in the profession. Freud was not among them but he ended up covering up for them because they would blackball and ruin the practice of anyone who dared to disagree with their tight control on the profession and it's rules. Many people in this work today are good people but they know that a good bit of the theory is nuts to say the least and some of the more ridiculous in their ranks have attempted to "normalize" the most perverted practices, including sex with little children. Society, in order to survive, has always judged extreme behavorial aberation, not to unjustly punish people, but to protect the majority against behavior which is hurtful, aggressive, destructive or forced upon people not wanting to practice it. I think in this last election people have, at last, gotten the opportunity to respond to a homosexual agenda they are not prepared to tolerate at this time.


25 posted on 11/10/2004 4:10:21 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Liz

Let Pataki and Spectre sit together and gripe!


26 posted on 11/10/2004 4:17:27 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Liz

Interesting given that Bush did not push the gay marriage issue during his campaign. The Dems did that themselves via the Mass. Supreme Court rulinlg and the activities of the Mayor of San Francisco. The high turnout to oppose gay marriage was spontaneous on the part of Christians who didn't like seeing a two thousand year old institution being destroyed by Judicial fiat.


27 posted on 11/10/2004 4:19:17 AM PST by joebuck
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To: Liz

-"Finkelstein accused Bush of trying to "dictate to America how to live and what to believe in."-

We voted for him, jackass! Pataki didn't have a chance, anyway. I don't want anyone from NY running. Guliani? Forget it!


28 posted on 11/10/2004 4:30:15 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Liz

That's an amazing map. The dem areas are catholic, appears that the message against kerry didn't seem to work.

Pataki and Guliani should both be worried with the stand they have taken with abortion and gay marriages.

They need to stick with state politics and one of them put hillary out of office. I don't know if Pataki can, but after 9-11 I'm sure Rudy can.


29 posted on 11/10/2004 4:46:33 AM PST by The Mayor (The fires of life will not destroy you if you're watered by the River of Life.)
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To: Liz

You tell him, girl!


30 posted on 11/10/2004 4:48:33 AM PST by sport
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To: Liz

Pataki could never become President. You have to have personality to do that!


31 posted on 11/10/2004 4:53:23 AM PST by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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To: Liz

I don't get the Uhria Heep reference? The only Uhria Heep I've ever heard of was an early 70s hard rock band.


32 posted on 11/10/2004 5:23:05 AM PST by edchambers
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To: leprechaun9

Two freakin' birds of a frickin' feather.


33 posted on 11/10/2004 5:24:28 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Nice contributon to the thread, AC.

All of us have seen and heard these pro-abort RINOS at Republican functions, talking the Planned Parenthood talk, trying to dilute Pubbie values.

These RINOS are nothing but useful idiots for Republicans. One of the reasons these hangers-on might be kept on in the party is b/c they write big checks.


34 posted on 11/10/2004 5:30:16 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: edchambers

Uriah Heep is Charles Dickens' "David Cooperfield" character, who is was notorious for wielding undue influence, a bounder who was always planning and plotting, ingratiating himself into the confidence of others. Uriah is obsequious, manipulative, and wormed his way into positions of influence. Not to be trusted, Uriah was a consummate con man.




Translated into the language of the popular culture, the Uriah Heeps position themselves as amenable to conservative qualities of faith and compassion, but are insincere in these feelings, using people only to advance their own agendas and mbiitons.

They've smelled the power of conservatives, and now the Uriah Heeps grow in their desire to exercise control over the Bush agenda and over conservatives.

The Uriah Heeps of the world with their sense of entitlement feed on the victories of others. They become more and more power-hungry and will deploy their self-serviing strategies to selfish purposes.

We need to watch out for them for they will bring more harm to the interetss of the unborn.

At their very core----like this RINO----the Uriah Heeps evince an elitist, unmitigated contempt for Christan conservatives, and all we stand for.


35 posted on 11/10/2004 5:42:42 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

"Crazy atheist barbarians" (Crabs) ........the new nomenclature for this type of individual.....and the one mentioned here is the paradigm "Crab."


36 posted on 11/10/2004 5:57:48 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: The Mayor
Pataki and Guliani should both be worried with the stand they have taken with abortion and gay marriages.

I'm sure they are. In the article above, Pataki went ballistic at Finklestein's comments. Ol' George knows he cooked his goose. He and Rudy ain't going anywhere in politics.

37 posted on 11/10/2004 6:00:55 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Liz
If I was Finkelstein, I would be mad too. This election was a knife in the heart of RINOS like Pataki, Guiliani, Specter, McCain and others. Christians delivered this election for Bush and they have a lot of political capital in the tank. Rove's strategy of going after conservatives was the right thing to do and it is the strategy that wins an election everytime for Republicans when they do this (see Secrets of the "Reagan Democrats”
38 posted on 11/10/2004 6:03:40 AM PST by truthandlife (http://www.neverforgetneveragain.com -- If you want Bush re-elected pass on this video link!!!!)
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To: Liz
I'm not the biggest religious dude you will ever meet. But the thing I liked about Bush43 is his stand on these thugs world-wide and him wanting to protect everyone's freedoms including those of other countries.

I still remember him having the balls to go out in front of the crowd at Yankee stadium and thorw the first pitch in the payoff game. I also remember him going to Iraq. Both were remarkable. For that I admire the man and was a reason why a lot of folks may they be Christian or like me voted for the guy.

39 posted on 11/10/2004 6:06:12 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: Liz

what a joke- Paturkey has absolutely no chance of becoming President


40 posted on 11/10/2004 6:07:19 AM PST by petercooper (Kerry voters -- How can 56,307,601 people be so DUMB?)
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