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[madvlad]

Zogby posted an op-ed over at Newsmax saying that he
was right even though he was wrong!

I'm not kidding!

MV

[Always Right]

'I don't know, said [Democrat] pollster John Zogby, who relied partially on exit polls Tuesday to declare Kerry the winner in Ohio. 'I'm not blaming everything on the exit polls, but the exit polls were terrible.'

Why in the world was Zogby even looking at the exit polls to make his 'prediction'. I guess I will wait until the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl before I boldly make my 'prediction'. It is just stupid that a pollster relies on other polls to make his prediction. Obviously Zogby did not like what his numbers were showing. Zogby has gone completely down the tubes.

[cwb]

This has been a trend now for the last decade with the media: They continue to call Democrat states early in the evening, while they hold back on Republican states. They do this despite the fact that many times, the margin of victory is closer in the Dem states, than in the GOP states. As this piece mentions....we didn't have this problem with Exit Polls until Republicans started winning.

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bmp

[Coop]

Republican Free Republic Web site.

Conservative, not Republican. There's certainly a difference.

[truthandlife]

The unfortunate thing about the collusion between MSM and the Kerry campaign is that I don't think there will be anything done about it. Republicans (Bush) won and people are so tired they have moved on to their regular lives.

I hope there is an investigation and something is done but I am not holding my breath.

[GSWarrior]

Here's a crazy idea...eliminate exit polls.

[Wil H]

One possibility for the skewed exit polls is that they were manufacturing cover for the ensuing fraud had the election been close and they been able to cheat. They would have used the exit poll resuls as corroborating "evidence".

[SMARTY]

"...once Republicans started winning one election after another, the exit polls, old and new, either produced worthless numbers or crashed altogether..."


Well, here's something people have a gut smart about and have had for years. Personally, I never needed to have it spelled out for me so precisely, but it's nice to see that the verifiable facts bear out what your gut always told you.

[spodefly]

BTTT

[wynter]

I don't know if this is a rumor or not but I heard that some liberals like DU were watching different polls waiting for the exit pollsters. When they spotted one being used they called others to come over. They would go in the election section and come out to be interviewed. It's almost believable since they swamp all media polls this past year with false votes. Another observation that I made and probably others did too... People had weeks to vote early and they were not polled. These were most likely the people that someone else mentioned on here that were voting against all kinds of things.. gay marriage, abortion, etc. So they voted for Bush. A lot of the people who might have turned out on election day were Democrat voters who knew in their media warped minds that there was no urgency. They'd just show up and Kerry would be elected. The rest of us were mad, upset and scared about a Kerry victory. I voted early just to get that out of my system.. with a vengeance especially against Edwards. I'm in N.C. I felt better voting early and I told others to do it for therapy. Just a thought. :-)

[Texas Songwriter]

Why should not these people be thrown in jail. What they attempted to do is overthrown the legitimately elected government of the United States by lawlessness, chicanery, and deceit. Conspiracy to defraud the citizens of the U.S. by unlawful means. I am as serious as I can be.

[showme_the_Glory]

Zogby, Soros, Moore, Mcaulif, irrelevant never were's......

[Zack Nguyen]

"According to at least three sources, one inside the Kerry campaign, and two outside of it, but with ties to senior Kerry advisers, some of the ‘early polling numbers’ were in fact direct reports from Kerry campaign or Democratic Party operatives on the ground in such critical states as Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, and Wisconsin. According to a Washington lobbyist with knowledge of the numbers, the numbers were packaged together so as to appear to be exit poll results. They were then scrubbed through several sources to land in the lap of sympathetic bloggers who these operatives believed would put the numbers up with little question.

If this is true, why didn't the Elite Media Group, who was performing exit polling for the major networks, disavow these bogus numbers? Why didn't they say, "Hey, these aren't our numbers. We don't know where they're coming from." Were they not aware?

[Plutarch]

socialist mainstream media (SMSM)

I like it! SMSM describes it exactly.

[handy]

The critical moment came at 12:41 a.m. Wednesday, when, shortly after Florida had been painted red for Mr. Bush, Fox News declared that Ohio - and, very likely, the presidency - was in Republican hands.

"Howard Wolfson, a strategist, burst into the 'boiler room' in Washington where the brain trust was huddled and said, 'we have 30 seconds' to stop the other networks from following suit.

I don't doubt this at all. Anyone who took statistics in college could so the same calculations Ed Bradley did on CBS. It was pathetic to see the MSM "news" people not report the obvious "news" fact that Bush had won reelection.

[monday]

""If we go back in history to prior presidential elections, those exit polls were dead on. Something has changed to make them less dead on."

This is an easy one. Historically there were a greater number of housewives who voted early. Now many more women work, and there are a far greater number of unemployed who vote early. Unemployed tend to vote Democrat where housewives were split more evenly. Unless employment status is taken into account, early voter poll samples will continue to favor Democrats.

[Ciexyz]

Most excellent read.

Perhaps all this discussion is having some effect on the MSM. I noticed that my local ABC noon news affiliate respectfully reported events in Falluja and even had a segment on the new Ronald Reagan stamp, issued today.

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