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Druggists refuse to give out pill
USA Today, via Yahoo ^ | Charisse Jones, USA TODAY

Posted on 11/09/2004 8:23:53 AM PST by Michael Goldsberry

Edited on 11/09/2004 8:39:31 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Phantom Lord

Yes, according to the Prevention of Vice and Promostion of Virtue wing of FR.


141 posted on 11/09/2004 9:39:26 AM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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To: Sir_Ed
Birth control pills, in fact, ARE abortifacients...they do kill a living unborn baby, albeit in a very early stage of the process.

Geez, where did you get that propaganda from? It prevents the release of an egg.

On VERY rare occasions it prevents the implantation of a fertilized egg in the uterine wall.

Good luck convincing anything other than a microscopic minority in this country that a single cell is a "baby."

142 posted on 11/09/2004 9:39:31 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Bella_Bru

The issue is not whether or not women have a right to take BCP's in America. They do and always will. The issue is whether people of conscience have a right to freely exercise their religious views not to aid and abet what they see as the killing of innocent human life. Two different issues.


143 posted on 11/09/2004 9:41:08 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Phantom Lord
"Bull. By what right does he refuse to return someones property to them?"

What if she presented him with a gun and said she was going to kill someone with it? Must he return the gun? It's her property.

I seem to recall where K-Mart was sued just because they sold ammunition to a guy who later killed someone.

144 posted on 11/09/2004 9:41:58 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: EggsAckley
YOU are the one who believes that we should have no right to private property.

Well, now you're exaggerating. What I said is that property rights sometimes have to take a back seat, that property rights aren't absolute. Do you think they'd let me tear down my house and build a dairy on my property? Did you know that you're not allowed to even use a receiver to pick up satellite TV signals on your property without paying a fee to some company? Property rights have never been absolute!

And, all I can say is that it would be mighty hypocritical of me to claim that I don't have rights to property!! ;-)

145 posted on 11/09/2004 9:41:59 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Again, not true. If you set up a biblical display in your office, or decided to try and convert co-workers the boss would be well within his rights to require you to stop or fire you if you refused.

LOL, that would violate current laws, whcih I agree with, concerning private property rights. My statement stands, yours doesn't. Try again.

146 posted on 11/09/2004 9:42:38 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: He Rides A White Horse

"This is all the fault of George Bush", said Nancy Pelosi. "Next thing you know, pregnant teens will be executed in soccer stadiums........."


147 posted on 11/09/2004 9:42:38 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Phantom Lord

What a herd of RINOs you all are!


148 posted on 11/09/2004 9:43:03 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

How am I a RINO?


149 posted on 11/09/2004 9:43:31 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Lurking2Long

Hey, who are the RINO's?


150 posted on 11/09/2004 9:43:48 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Does a pharmacist have the right to keep your prescription? What if one truly is using the pill for non-birth control reasons? Should one have to explain the reasons one is getting a prescription for any "controversial" meds?

If he simply did not want to fill it, he could have returned it to her. He didn't need to keep. He didn't achieve anything, accept causing his company a lawsuit. Congrats.

151 posted on 11/09/2004 9:43:57 AM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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To: CobaltBlue

"Second, how does anybody know what the pills are for? Some women take BC pills because they have heavy bleeding and other medical reasons. It helps regulate their cycle. The woman may be totally abstinent."

Thank you! It amazes me to no end how many people out there think that every woman who takes birth control pills is taking them just so she can go f*#@ the football team. They're used for any number of gynecological conditions and are a Godsend to many women.

If your faith prevents you from doing a job properly, get another line of work.


152 posted on 11/09/2004 9:44:18 AM PST by MonaMars
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To: robertpaulsen
What if she presented him with a gun and said she was going to kill someone with it? Must he return the gun? It's her property.

That didn't happen in the article. Your analogy fails.

153 posted on 11/09/2004 9:44:32 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: steplock
NOBODY can be forced to do anything that is immoral to them.

That's funny, I recall my taxes being used to fund "Piss Christ", against my will.

154 posted on 11/09/2004 9:45:41 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Bella_Bru

No but I have said that ad nauseum already. That really isn't the issue. The issue is does the government have the right to force doctors, pharmacist etc to violtate their moral beliefs on the taking of innocent human life. I think that answer is clear and I am surprised ath resistance to it on this thread.


155 posted on 11/09/2004 9:46:08 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: robertpaulsen
I seem to recall where K-Mart was sued just because they sold ammunition to a guy who later killed someone.

Yeah, liberals use tort law to circumvent the 2nd Amendment. You think that's a good example of conservative thought?

156 posted on 11/09/2004 9:46:08 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: Bella_Bru
Did he really? Did he discuss her sex life with her before he refused to return her prescription?

You do know that BCP's are often used to control erratic cycles, roght?

I really don't know if he did, but if his purpose was just to prevent the use of BCP's to prevent pregnancy, I can join you in hoping that he checked that out first!

Actually, I have trouble imagining that a pharmacist would have the guts to refuse to return a prescription he refused to fill. But, he we are and we have to face reality.

Some pretty powerful moral forces going on in this guy, I'd say. ;-)

157 posted on 11/09/2004 9:46:14 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: MonaMars
Thank you! It amazes me to no end how many people out there think that every woman who takes birth control pills is taking them just so she can go f*#@ the football team.

LOL, a bit of hyperbole always gets the thread juices flowing.

158 posted on 11/09/2004 9:47:40 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Scenic Sounds
Do you think they'd let me tear down my house and build a dairy on my property?

If they stop you, it was never your property to being with. See my tagline.

159 posted on 11/09/2004 9:47:41 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: jwalsh07
The issue is does the government have the right to force doctors, pharmacist etc to violtate their moral beliefs on the taking of innocent human life.

No. The issue is about wether or not an employee has the right to refuse to fulfill their job duties.

160 posted on 11/09/2004 9:47:57 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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