This is what Hillary has called for.
Bad. Bad idea.
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I've been told that we "became" a democracy in the 1940's, when liberals started calling us a democracy.
We're not. That's not some minor technical debate. I like how they try to use Bush's win as evidence that the EC should be abolished, as if they'd give a crap if Kerry won electorally.
2 posted on
11/09/2004 12:46:58 AM PST by
Darkwolf377
(My movie of the week is: Bubba Ho-Tep ! **** out of *****)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
The old reasoning that the campaigns would ignore small states and spend all their time and money in the largest, voter-rich states simply no longer holds true. Interesting that he makes such an inane statement without supporting it with facts or figures. Of course it still holds true!
3 posted on
11/09/2004 12:48:21 AM PST by
Gerasimov
(John Kerry just got his SECOND dishonorable discharge.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
What a great idea. Just imagine a close election nationally where we have to recount the ENTIRE NATION. Fighting over all the overseas ballots, absentee ballots, provisional ballots, etc. It would be four years before we determined who the winner was...
To: Cincinatus' Wife
>Bad. Bad idea.
I agree, it's definitely a BAD idea... the founding fathers knew how important this was, and had good reasons to come up with the EV.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
It will NEVER pass. The small population states will never vote to terminate the electoral college. I live in South Dakota, and both political parties are against it.
7 posted on
11/09/2004 1:02:06 AM PST by
Nosterrex
To: Cincinatus' Wife
I get a bad, bad reaction to any suggestion of dibanding the Electoral College, Cinci.
All the stumping and speechifying would be barraged on the major population centers (Cities. Not states) like LA, San Fran, Manhattan, Seattle, Atlanta, Dallas/Ft.Worth, Chicago, Detroit, Boston)
Once you have those. You don't need anything else.
Bad, bad, bad idea!
Jack.
8 posted on
11/09/2004 1:04:11 AM PST by
Jack Deth
(When In Doubt.... Empty The Magazine!)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yep.... rotten idea. Figures Hillary supports it.
9 posted on
11/09/2004 1:09:32 AM PST by
Tamzee
(The Odyssey... "By their own follies they perished, the fools.")
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Every State is guaranteed a Republican (not republican party) form of government under the US Constitution. That means each state is a sovereign entity. As sovereign entities each state is entitled to equal representation at the ballot box and in our senate.
Originally the two Senators from each of the states elected the President, which prevented a few high population states from controlling the election. Unfortunately our Constitution was amended and population has now become a factor.
With the old system any candidate who could win 51 percent of the states senators became president. Under our present system the sovereignty of the lower population states has been diluted.
To: Cincinatus' Wife; hellinahandcart; NYC GOP Chick; Lil'freeper; cyborg
Oh yeah. Good idea. Then NY and CA and FL would decide every election.
To hell with the rest of the country.
13 posted on
11/09/2004 1:48:26 AM PST by
sauropod
(Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sorry, but if that's done then all the populated cites where the liberals want to live together would be electing our President. I for one like the system the way it is.
15 posted on
11/09/2004 1:51:24 AM PST by
garylmoore
(God Bless you W, you have prevailed.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'd like us to return to the original thought....The States pick their electorates from the best of the best. You send these electoral college folks out to a big room and let them tell us a while later who they picked.
No campaigning, no liberal propaganda.....and hopefully an end to lawyers running the country
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Another Democrat Party paper calling to end an institution that keeps shutting them out of national power. Vane, transparant and hopeless.
19 posted on
11/09/2004 2:44:24 AM PST by
eagle11
(The left can only find allies with those who plot to destroy western civilization.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
21 posted on
11/09/2004 2:49:16 AM PST by
freeangel
(freeangel)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
The time has come after the second election in a row where the results in one state ultimately determined the outcome of the election for the nation to drop out of the Electoral College. This is stupid and idiotic! One state DID NOT DETERMINE the outcome of the election. ALL OF THEM COMBINED DID!
If we went to a popular vote system, then in theory, ONE SINGLE PERSON could determine the outcome of the election according to these idiots. Imagine it's all tied up at 59,000,000 to 59,000,000 and the last voter goes to the booth in Hawaii. The next day, articles are written how "ONE VOTER" should not determine the outcome of the election, blah, blah, blah.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
The time has come...for the nation to drop out of the Electoral College.
If the left is dead set against something you can safely bet that it's a good thing.
Conversely, if they're for something it's usually a bad thing.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
The time has come after the second election in a row where the results in one state ultimately determined the outcome of the election for the nation to drop out of the Electoral College.Good idea! Let's go to a system where the votes of 2 states will decide the election! California and New York!
The scary thing is, the more people believe that we live in a democracy, the more they WANT to live in one. It's because they will be able to vote themselves other peoples' stuff! But eventually, the society will become some sort of socialist state, probably totalitarian in nature.
That's one reason that the government of the United States was never supposed to be a democracy, but a Constitutional Republic, where only 1/2 of 1/3 of the government was supposed to be popularly elected!
Mark
27 posted on
11/09/2004 4:11:16 AM PST by
MarkL
(Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too!)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
If we decide to something stupid like getting rid of the electoral college, we may as well revamp the senate too. Why should Montana have an equal say as Florida? Why even count votes, we should just rely on polls right? Lets make this simpler to save all of us alot of trouble. I nominate Bill Clinton as king for life. He is so smart and compassionate that he can take care of all decisions from here on out.
28 posted on
11/09/2004 4:18:30 AM PST by
Robespierre
(Come into the light, all are welcome, all are welcome.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
All you have to do is look to Canada and see what we would be without the EC. Western provences have little or no say in national events.
29 posted on
11/09/2004 4:24:56 AM PST by
Comus
('W', stands for winner.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
I have a better idea - lets make the electoral college a county-by-county count, where each county gets one electoral vote. That ought to put a damper on the fraud-ridden blue cities.
30 posted on
11/09/2004 4:28:03 AM PST by
meyer
(Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
To: All
People should just forget about this. I figured a win by either Kerry or Bush as long as the pop. vote and the EC were the same would end this discussion. I guess I was wrong about that.
Face it folks, the little states and the underpopulated states will NEVER go for it. And there are A LOT more of them. This is DOA and unless Charlie Rangel decides to waste his time on another non-starter I can see this doing anything but wasting ink & trees.
31 posted on
11/09/2004 4:38:35 AM PST by
jocon307
(Maintain the mandate!)
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