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The Myth Behind "Separation of Church and State"

The Founding Fathers and Deism

America: Our Christian Heritage, Our History and Faith in God

1 posted on 11/08/2004 1:34:11 PM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

ping


2 posted on 11/08/2004 1:35:47 PM PST by JessieHelmsJr
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Thanks for the history lessons.


3 posted on 11/08/2004 1:36:18 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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bump


4 posted on 11/08/2004 1:37:37 PM PST by Ostlandr (Nationalist, small-r republican, fiscal conservative, social liberal, pagan. NOT a Bush partisan!)
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"I pledge allegience to the flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC" for which it stands...."

I had to remind a teacher of this when she was teaching students that we were a Democracy. Sad!

10 posted on 11/08/2004 1:41:20 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Democracy, is MOB rule.

Republic, Representative form of government.

If we truly have a democracy, why do we have representative form of government??


12 posted on 11/08/2004 1:45:21 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Democracy, is MOB rule.

Republic, Representative form of government.

If we truly have a democracy, why do we have representative form of government??


13 posted on 11/08/2004 1:45:24 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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"Consider the stability this provides: in our republic, murder will always be a crime, for it is always a crime according to the Word of God."

Sure, stability, unless the murder is committed against a preborn baby, in which case the Republic exalts it as a Constitutional right.

14 posted on 11/08/2004 1:48:10 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

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16 posted on 11/08/2004 1:51:58 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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BTTT


19 posted on 11/08/2004 1:55:48 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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I'll have to go back through my notes...but it was FDR who shortly after the Bank Holiday, ordered the Government Printing Office to remove from the Army Training Manual the definitions of a Republic and Democracy. This definition was used routinely in both the military and academia as the official description for these two types of goverment...and the distinction was obvious. Since that removal (sometime around 1932), liberals have intentionally misrepresented what type of government we are.


20 posted on 11/08/2004 1:58:26 PM PST by cwb (Defeat after defeat, Democrats are still living in denial.)
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The Declaration and the Constitution: Their Christian Roots

The Theology of the United States

God in the Temples of Government

21 posted on 11/08/2004 2:02:50 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe (Born and raised in Jesusland!)
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Well, ok, but we are a democratic republic.
All of our political chief executives are chosen by the popular vote, as are all of our legislators and many of our judges. We also have direct ballot initiative processes in about 23 states. We are not a democracy in the Athenian sense, of course, but there's no particular reason to cede to the ancient Greeks the definition of "democracy". Our system was democratic even before it was a republic. Take a look at American colonial governance. It was representative in some parts, town meeting style in New England, and quite democratic.

And our republic doesn't look much like the Roman Republic, where class limitations applied to what offices one could hold.

We aren't a classical democracy, and we're not a classical republic. We're a democratic republic, or a republican democracy, and always have been. really. There aren't any historical precedents for what we've done here: we broke the mold.


23 posted on 11/08/2004 2:04:08 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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btt


24 posted on 11/08/2004 2:11:00 PM PST by lilmsdangrus
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BTTT


25 posted on 11/08/2004 2:12:11 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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From post: ""oligarchy (a government run by a small council or a group of elite individuals)": "

With a couple of others - our government has gotten close to this form - Considering how many laws they have passed to protect themselves - And how they cover for each other when one with "power or money" gets into trouble - Some Reps. and people, like S.B. - can break laws even - and not be made to pay -

Our government is ripe with people who work to corrupt it even more - A sad state - and some citizens are to blame - plus add in what has happened to the major media - and it will be hard to get back to where it all started - Perhaps one way would be to make these papers required reading in all schools - colleges even -

In some respect - some changes are needed - also because of the current situation. How officials are chosen(local level on up) - especially from "new" citizens - and who can become a citizen -

The part where anyone born here(even if the foreign parents leave after) becomes a citizen - needs a second look - What once was - is no longer a safe practice for this nation - in my opinion - citizens must see this and move to head off one of the opening that would/could lead to the possible defeat of this nation from within -


Foreigners in the past came here to join in - to become an American because they had a high regard for the nation - This no longer is the fact for many new foreigners coming here. We should recognize this and deal with it - in some manner that still allows this nation to grow but limits the danger from any new citizen intent on doing harm -

just my thoughts -


26 posted on 11/08/2004 2:15:34 PM PST by Pastnowfuturealpha
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Always good...


29 posted on 11/08/2004 2:31:04 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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BTTT


33 posted on 11/08/2004 3:27:22 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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OMGosh- I have said this at least one hundred times in the last week! Thanks for posting.
34 posted on 11/08/2004 6:24:48 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (God bless the Swift Boat Vets!)
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