Posted on 11/08/2004 6:10:01 AM PST by OESY
...But for the Republicans this is unadulterated good news. It vindicates "Jorge" Bush's hunch that aggressively pursuing the Hispanic vote would pay off. His familiarity with Mexican-Americans in Texas formed in him an instinct....
The Hispanic entry into Republican ranks comes, for many, at an earlier phase in their American journey than for other immigrant groups. Just think of the Irish, Italians and Jews, who generations after arrival on these shores can still reflexively pull the Democratic lever. Their vestigial loyalty is the result of what has been the Democratic Party's strategy for over a century. The bargain back in the days of Tammany Hall was: We give you the fire and police departments, you give us your vote. Later, patronage changed to goodies like preferences and quotas.
The Hispanic rejection of affirmative action is all the more strange because it cuts against the grain of everything we have been told. Self-appointed black leaders simply took it for granted that the Hispanics would grow their base, and had some success in New York....
John Kerry fell for the monolithic myth, too, and paid for it. For example, he targeted the Hispanic audience in Colorado by spending on Spanish-language radio, against the advice of local politicians, who urged the Kerry campaign to buy airtime in English-language media....
Indeed, despite reams of copy on the subject, outside the Southwest (and especially in Mr. Kerry's Northeast), Hispanics seem to be entering the national slipstream almost unperceived.
The Bushies seem to get it (and get ready for the next George Bush. The nephew, George P., is actually Hispanic himself, through his mother, and has political aspirations). But for the Democrats -- to borrow a famous phrase -- this may all have been too nuanced.
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Mr. Gonzalez gets it...
America's first hispanic president?
They are immigrants who have come to America for a better life. They are vehemently opposed to illegal immigration (imagine that, as they worked so hard to legal come here).
It's also funny to hear self-hating, white liberals tell these two "hispanics" how they should be Kerry supporters (or not support President Bush). Now, this husband and wife are not stupid. In fact, they are quite educated, but you should hear the condesending attitudes that these liberals throw at them.
It's funny. It's even funnier when my Ecuadorian friends rip them a new one.
The liberals walk away stunned and confuses, which, when you think about it, isn't that different a state then they are normally in.
I am waiting for George Bush, son of Jeb Bush, to run for office. Although, it will be a few years due to his age. You can count on this.
Jesse Jackson Jr.
vs
George P. Bush
a match made in heaven
Perhaps it is reflective of the pride in the line in the racist Mexican song "Matandos Geros":
"You made us to be like nigger slaves."
It seems to me that the last thing any Hispanic with any pride wants to be compared to or thought equal of is the whiny American black from the inner city - living off welfare and crime and racial handouts. I suspect they feel that being made equal to them is being equally placed firmly in the gutter of American society. And who wants to be down there?
La gente peude ver la verdad y reconocen el caracter mejor del presidente.
El caracter es total. Sin eso, no tiene nada.
Hispanics have always confused me by voting democratic. Their values are republican. God fearing, pro life. All it takes is a little education for them to understand that the democrats aren't the party of the working man, or the religious man, or the man who wants to succeed in business.
Here is one Salvadoran legal immigrant that is 100% Bush.
Where does he get that Hispanics have rejected affirmative action?
The real question will be whether the GOP can keep this sort of thing up down the road.
The trend is going the right direction - but will the GOP keep doing that it has to in order to keep that trend going?
Anyway, I think AA is an overrated issue anyway. It really only comes into play with government jobs and, to a lesser extent, college admissions. Besides, women of all races have benefitted more from AA than anyone else, which makes it difficult to repeal.
Well most of the public opinion surveys I've seen that asks Hispanic about racial preferences shows that most oppose them, but then again the same is true of blacks. However, once an effort is made to get rid of them as with the UofMichigan case last year, seemingly the entire black and latino leadership-establishment comes out vehemently in favor of preferences. Yes, I know, just because certain leaders say something does not necessarily mean they represent the views of those they claim to speak for, but this is always the case and there seems to never be a countering voice from that community. And indeed, when given the chance to vote directly on the matter as in California back in 1996, the percentage of Hispanics and blacks who voted against preferences turned out to be much lower than what they tell pollsters. And to an extent that makes sense. Who's going to look a gift horse in the mouth?
And I think racial preferences/aff action is a big deal, and is becoming a bigger and bigger deal as the nation's diversity increases. When it applied to blacks and American Indians, it was limited to no more than 15% of the population, which meant that it was at least limited. Now these preferences have been extended to Hispanics (in the name of diversity since the redressing past wrongs rationale can't be applied to them), which means we are now talking about upwards of 30% of the nation being eligible for preferences. Assuming current immigration and demographic trends persist, then the share of the population eligible for preferences will continue to grow. Soon it will be 40%. It is no longer limited,in fact its open-ended with no forseeable limits. I mean, the idea that someone (or their descendants) can be eligible for a preference over the native population that granted them the incalculable gift of letting them come to this nation is just insane, but the sheer numbers involved make it beyond insane.
Also, from a moral point of view, its simply wrong to give racial/ethnic preferences. If we want to help the disadvantaged, then use economic preferences. That way you could help the poor and working class of all races, including even white people, of whom there are many who need help just as bad as other groups.
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