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Disney and Pixar Score Again as 'The Incredibles' Opens Big
The New York Times ^ | 11/8/04 | Sharon Waxman

Posted on 11/08/2004 5:18:29 AM PST by gridlock

OS ANGELES, Nov. 7 - The computer-animated family movie "The Incredibles" struck a resounding chord this weekend, taking in an estimated $70.7 million nationwide.

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Paramount's "Alfie," a remake of a romantic comedy about a roguish womanizer starring Jude Law, opened to a dismal $6.5 million in more than 2,000 theaters, far below expectations. The tepid response was the latest blow to Sherry Lansing, the chairwoman of Paramount who last week announced her plans to leave the job when her contract expires in 2005, and whose movies have performed poorly this summer and fall.

Wayne Llewellyn, the president of distribution at Paramount, said that the conservative ethos reflected in last week's election results might have hurt the film.

"It could be the mood of the country right now," he said. "It seems to be the result of the election. Maybe they didn't want to see a guy that slept around." .

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(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: alfie; culturewar; disney; moviereview; pixar; teamrat; theincredibles
Interesting comments by Paramount on their release "Alfie", which is tanking badly. Of course, they blame the mood of the country on the results of the election, instead of blaming the results of the election on the mood of the country. These Hollywood elitists cannot seem to tell the difference between their scripts and real life.

In any case, I think the vast majority of people has just seen too much of the Hollywood types and is in no mood to watch them cavort and be cute. And the mere possibility of seeing Susan Sarandon unclothed is enough to make most sane people give this film a wide berth.

1 posted on 11/08/2004 5:18:30 AM PST by gridlock
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To: gridlock

I think people are tired of seeing "remakes" of old movies. The Manchurian Candidate and Alfie were great in the originals...not so successful in the remakes.

BTW, The Incredibles is great! Very entertaining; not too scary even for little kids. A daddy and his 2 kids sat right in front of us...the boy was probably 8; little sister was about 4-5. All seemed to enjoy it.


2 posted on 11/08/2004 5:25:54 AM PST by Maria S
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To: gridlock

Look, I got a choice to spend my family entertainment budget on a PIXAR film (which with the exception of Toy Story 2, have all been home runs) or on a tired played out story of a womanizer finally falling in love and/or getting his just deserts from the same old tired bunch in Hollywood.

I chose the Incredibles, and it was another home run by Pixar.


3 posted on 11/08/2004 5:25:55 AM PST by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: gridlock


Michael Medved said Alfie was horrible.


4 posted on 11/08/2004 5:27:27 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: gridlock
I haven't been to the movies in a long time. Took my 7yr old son to see "The Incredibles". It was a great movie!
This will be a hit in the "Red States".
5 posted on 11/08/2004 5:31:41 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There everywhere!)
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To: Maria S
I took my daughter (5) this weekend. The movie was fantastic, but I would be a little cautious about the little ones. The action is intense and non-stop in the second half of the film, my daughter was a little overwhelmed.
6 posted on 11/08/2004 5:35:22 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: gridlock

>>Interesting comments by Paramount on their release "Alfie", which is tanking badly. Of course, they blame the mood of the country on the results of the election, instead of blaming the results of the election on the mood of the country.

Paramount is owned by Viacom, same outfit that pulls cBS strings.... Not surprising they troll the sewer for ideas.


7 posted on 11/08/2004 5:55:42 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: cspackler

I took my 5 y.o. to see it. She liked it, but got a little fidgity towards the end.

I really enjoyed it, especially the "Office Space" experience of Mr. Incredible.


8 posted on 11/08/2004 5:58:42 AM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: gridlock
"It could be the mood of the country right now," he said. "It seems to be the result of the election.

Once again a liberal blames Bush/Republicans for everything. The "Alfie" movie is tanking because it sucks (or so I have heard), not because of republicans.

9 posted on 11/08/2004 6:42:20 AM PST by j. earl carter (I had a plan....)
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To: gridlock

The Incredibles was super! It looked beautiful. It wasn't as funny (in cetain ways) as Shark Tale, but it had great characters (the superhero suit designer, Edna, was great).


10 posted on 11/08/2004 6:45:51 AM PST by aruanan
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To: gridlock

Sounds like a fun movie. Pity I'll never see it. I don't do Disney.


11 posted on 11/08/2004 7:02:02 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: aruanan

"...the superhero suit designer, Edna, was great..."


I assumed she was supposed to be a parody of Edith Head, the famous Hollywood designer of the 40's-60's (or thereabouts). The little "Incredibles" woman was a dead-ringer for her with her huge (hugh) glasses and Prince Valiant haircut.


12 posted on 11/08/2004 7:31:12 AM PST by Maria S
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To: BigCinBigD

"Sounds like a fun movie. Pity I'll never see it. I don't do Disney."

Ah, swallow your pride and go see it. Pixar and Disney have split up:

Pixar to End Talks with Disney
http://corporate.pixar.com/news/20040129-127764.cfm
Emeryville, CA - January 29, 2004 - Pixar today said that it is ending its discussions with The Walt Disney Company to extend their existing five-picture deal, and will begin discussions with other studios to distribute its films beginning in 2006. After completing the final two films under the current agreement with Disney, The Incredibles in 2004 and Cars in 2005, Pixar intends to retain full ownership of its future productions.
"After ten months of trying to strike a deal with Disney, we're moving on," said Pixar CEO Steve Jobs. "We've had a great run together - one of the most successful in Hollywood history - and it's a shame that Disney won't be participating in Pixar's future successes."
Under the terms of the existing agreement, Disney will retain the rights to distribute Pixar's first seven films, with Pixar continuing to receive its current share of the profits in perpetuity; and Disney will have the rights to solely finance and produce sequels to the films if Pixar declines to co-finance and produce them under the terms of the current agreement.



13 posted on 11/08/2004 7:38:05 AM PST by Maria S
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To: gridlock
family movie .....

WOW, what a surprise. A family movie blows these other hollyweed loser movies away.

did Hollywood hear that moral issues were a number one concern of this county's voters???

14 posted on 11/08/2004 8:16:59 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Maria S
Yes, "Edna" was a remarkable tribute / caricature (in the best sense of the word) of Edith Head, a tremendously talented wardrobe designer from Hollywood's golden age. They captured her personality and accent as well as her haircut, also.
15 posted on 11/08/2004 8:17:31 AM PST by Company Man
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THis movie was so awesome... if anyone here hasen't seen it yet, you have to go! :) :) :)


16 posted on 11/08/2004 8:36:11 AM PST by oolatec
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To: Maria S
I assumed she was supposed to be a parody of Edith Head, the famous Hollywood designer of the 40's-60's (or thereabouts). The little "Incredibles" woman was a dead-ringer for her with her huge (hugh) glasses and Prince Valiant haircut.

I have a vague recollection of her from an I Love Lucy episode.
17 posted on 11/08/2004 9:00:19 AM PST by aruanan
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"After completing the final two films under the current agreement with Disney, The Incredibles in 2004 and Cars in 2005,"

Oops they didn't make it in under the wire. I hope the "Eighth" Pixar film is interesting. As long as Disney (spit) has anything to do with it,Pixar will not get a thin Dime. :o)


18 posted on 11/08/2004 10:40:46 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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