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Dean quit after anti-US gibes (apparently being a Berkeley US lib doesn't help in NZ)
Stuff.co.nz (The Dominion Post) ^ | 08 November 2004 | By MICHELLE QUIRKE

Posted on 11/07/2004 4:25:21 PM PST by NZerFromHK

Anti-American feeling was one of the reasons behind the shock departure of the former dean of Wellington's Anglican cathedral.

Speaking from the United States, Douglas Sparks said Kiwi kids taunted his children for being Americans and told them they hoped Iraqis would kill American soldiers.

"We realised six-year-old children don't come up with those kinds of statements on their own. They have to have heard it from some other adult or influential person in their lives.

"My daughter came home from school and said, `I am so upset about what George Bush has done to my life'."

Despite receiving an anonymous note saying "Go home Yankee" from a disgruntled parishioner soon after he started the job in February 2003, Dr Sparks and his family stayed 18 months before homesickness and culture shock took their toll.

The generation who remembered World War II and the Korean War seemed to see New Zealand's ties with the US differently from those whose views were formed at the time of the Lange government's antinuclear stance, former US president Ronald Reagan's administration and now, the war in Iraq, he said.

"I wouldn't say all New Zealanders are anti-American. There were people who had genuinely diverse opinions about the United States and Great Britain vis-a-vis Iraq.

AdvertisementAdvertisement"But being an American, being a point person in that context at that point in time, was detrimental to our family."

Dr Sparks now leads a Minnesota congregation.

He and his family also have fond memories of their time in New Zealand and keep up with the news through the Internet, including National Party leader Don Brash's Orewa race speech.

"I also want to say that part of the anti-American process is somehow connected to the issue of identity," Dr Sparks said.

"What does it mean to be a New Zealander?

"To that extent it's not only Americans. I think the Aussies and Poms have the same kind of experience to a lesser degree."

Dr Sparks was replaced by Frank Nelson as dean of Wellington's Anglican cathedral.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; cluelessness; kiwiinsanity; leftisthate; liberals; libs; newzealand; politicalcorrectness
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Apparently being an anti-Bush and anti-American American, such as this poor liberal Episcopal dean, still does not escape you from being bashed for who you are in thi country. To the Us liberals who are reading the two threads:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1272989/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1273551/posts

take note.

1 posted on 11/07/2004 4:25:22 PM PST by NZerFromHK
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To: NZerFromHK
`I am so upset about what George Bush has done to my life'."

Her parents taking her to NZ did it to her....NOT President Bush!

2 posted on 11/07/2004 4:28:12 PM PST by the Deejay (ACLU = America's Clueless LUNATICS United.)
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To: NZerFromHK

Maybe Islamic "justice" will be established in New Zealand and
these goons will get the idea.


3 posted on 11/07/2004 4:29:16 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: NZerFromHK

Methinks he picked the wrong South Pacific country to move to...


4 posted on 11/07/2004 4:32:07 PM PST by Ex-Dem (AFL-CIO - Where organized labor becomes organized crime.)
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To: NZerFromHK
"We realised six-year-old children don't come up with those kinds of statements on their own. They have to have heard it from some other adult or influential person in their lives."..."you have to be carefully taught" - oh, wait a minute - that's the line from "South Pacific" by some smug lib about racial intolerance - doesn't apply to fashionable leftwing anti-American hatred - nevermind.....
5 posted on 11/07/2004 4:32:57 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: NZerFromHK

This only confirms my thoughts. We are not only in a "Holy War" with Islamofacist, but we are also in a war with the Internationalists.


6 posted on 11/07/2004 4:33:41 PM PST by Shortwave (Supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor.)
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To: NZerFromHK
What a wuss!

Jeez, I get that constantly from family in Europe. I simply tell them, if they hadn't screwed up so badly with WW1 and 2, the US wouldn't be the only world power.

In other words, IT'S ALL THEIR FAULT that we're incharge!

That usually gets them to shut up. lol
7 posted on 11/07/2004 4:35:28 PM PST by Chgogal
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To: Anti-Bubba182

New Zealand women, put on your burkas. Men, grow your beards. No more fun!!!


8 posted on 11/07/2004 4:37:10 PM PST by discipler
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To: NZerFromHK

Too bad. I loved New Zealand when I traveled through there a few years back. Of course that was pre-9/11 and Iraq.


9 posted on 11/07/2004 4:37:13 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: NZerFromHK

Oh man, you just posted that so our libs will stay here. Thanks a freakin' lot.


10 posted on 11/07/2004 4:38:41 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Chgogal
"Europe. I simply tell them, if they hadn't screwed up so badly with WW1 and 2, the US wouldn't be the only world power."

US leftists, most college professers, and democrates in general need to understand that.

11 posted on 11/07/2004 4:42:04 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: Tribune7

You know, if the Michael Moores still receive this type of treatment, how much worse will Freepers fare in this country ;-)

Seriously, NZ is very, very sick. I saw a response to this news on a blog that perfectly captures what I think:

"I lived in New Zealand for many years (my wife is a Kiwi) and at first I found New Zealanders to be among the most tolerant people I'd come across anywhere.
About ten years ago that began to change-the most common response to disagreement with Kiwis was "why don't you go back to where you came from" or 'f..ing foereigner" etc.
Now, I'm also white and English is my first language so in the far North where we lived we also had to put up with abuse from Maoris because of our skin colour. We3 lived on a farm and they seemed to think that it was just fine to help themselves to our property and any objections to their thieving, thuggish behaviour were because we were "racist".
We gave up, finally and moved to Australia.
New Zealand may well be a tolerant country--provided you're apathetic about civil liberties, brown or black and a lefty.
Otherwise, forget it."


12 posted on 11/07/2004 4:47:11 PM PST by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: Unam Sanctam

The anti-Americanism was present even at the time of your visit. When Albright and Clinton came to visit NZ there were the usual anti-US claptrap demonstrators around - but they were of course ignored by the US MSM.

The most left-wing NZ leftists are 5 degrees to the left of Noam Chomsky and Barbara Lee is a maintream NZ Labour MP had she been in this country. But conversely our paleocon is also much stronger than in the States - the bearer of this torch, Winston Peters, was Deputy Prime Miniter from 1996 to 1998 because he did well enough in 1996 general election with hi paleocon stand.


14 posted on 11/07/2004 4:53:09 PM PST by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: Shortwave

Exactly so.

And I didn't ANY complains from the European Internationalists when we fought the Dreaded Serbs in THEIR backyard WITHOUT UN approval OR CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.

Of course Bill Clinton was their Buttboy, protecting THEIR A$$eS and doing the good work FOR the UN back then....


Blood for Oil (National Self-interest) BAD!
Blood for UN (One world Government) GOOD!


15 posted on 11/07/2004 4:59:38 PM PST by RedMonqey (Keep RIGHT or get LEFT behind!!)
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To: NZerFromHK
"Dr Sparks now leads a Minnesota congregation."

Ah, from one Socialist utopia to another.

Actually, this guy's story seems to have more than a little hogwash to it.

16 posted on 11/07/2004 6:32:18 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: NZerFromHK
This would be another place for the lib's to move to if they cannot get into Canada immediatly.
17 posted on 11/07/2004 6:54:58 PM PST by bilhosty
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To: Tribune7

Oh don't worry, "our" libs hate the US so this will make NZ even more appealing to them. They can go there and spew their hate and be applauded. It's a good fit.


18 posted on 11/07/2004 6:59:04 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: NZerFromHK

I'm actually on the brink of quitting my job for similar reasons...only I'm in Chicago! The company I work for is owned by a European and every single employee shares the Michael Moore mentality. I have become very uncomfortable in the knowledge that I am the embodiment of their collective scorn, contempt and resentment.


19 posted on 11/07/2004 7:56:44 PM PST by ConservativeConvert
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To: bushisdamanin04
We were in NZ in 2000. We have friends there. We visited in 1975, as well.

In 1975, the anti-Americanism was in the form of drunken WWII veterans gloating that: "You Yanks are going down the tubes"
and leftists/students demonstrating against our resupply ships to Antarctica because they had nuclear power plants or *might* be carrying nuclear arms.

In November, 2000, we were being told that our country didn't have a President.

On our way home from NZ, we shared a layover in Tahiti with a German couple. They told us about their stay on a New Zealand guest farm. They were sitting around before dinner one night with the host and his wife when the 8-year old piped up:" You must be the European bastards." The Germans were bemused by this, only slightly insulted. It was if they didn't expect much better from colonials.

Our friend is an American expat married to a Kiwi and he tells us that he experiences anti-American prejudice even after 25 years.

Kiwis are very direct. They don't particularly care for us, never really have and aren't all that shy about letting us know it. In spite of this, they are mostly good folks, if too socialist for our tastes.
20 posted on 11/07/2004 8:13:32 PM PST by reformedliberal
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