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Frontline reporters have second thoughts
Marine Corps News ^ | Nov. 07, 2004 | 1st Lt. Robert Shuford

Posted on 11/07/2004 12:28:34 PM PST by Ramonan

CAMP FALLUJAH, Iraq(Nov. 07, 2004) -- With what seems an immenent assault on Fallujah coming in the next few days, media embedded with the Marines are rethinking their rolls in what looks to be the largest assault in Iraq since the end of major combat operations last year.

This isn’t what they expected, said one CNN journalist while finishing up the latest edits about a patrol that took place the night before. Many of the media here have been in combat zones before but this time is different, he said.

The latest display of emotion by such media has come as they have learned more about what role the Marines would play during an offensive on the insurgent hotspot where Marines have been fighting for months.

In one of the only buildings that has electricity in the camp where they are currently living, reporters and photographers from many well-known outlets like LA Times, NY Times and CNN to name a few, have discussions nightly about what may happen to them while they charge their batteries and file their stories about what their units did that day. Some of them are even reconsidering whether they want to carry through with their original plan of moving with a front line unit.

The Marines recently embedded more than 30 media agencies with units that are operating in the Al Anbar province where the well-known towns of Ramadi and Fallujah are located. All were invited, many accepted the offer, but now some have doubts.

The Marines are trained for this, the media is not, continued the CNN reporter who was actually covered other battles including the Iraq invasion during the spring of 2003.

One photographer, who has prided himself since his arrival here, on being in more than 17 conflicts, says he is more worried about this operation than any before. Because of the tactics the insurgents are using there is much more uncertainty, he explained. He went on to say that he did not expect to have this much access or be this involved with the Marines when he arrived.

“What if I get separated, what if I think I’m in a safe place and all of a sudden an insurgent walks in with a gun,” he said.

When asked what they thought they were getting into, many of them explained that they did not expect to have such good access to the Marine units they were embedded with and told how thankful they were for the treatment they received since there arrival. However, many are scared that this “five-star” treatment will not keep them safe from the dangers Marines have been facing daily before any media arrived.

For some, the embed program seemed like a good idea and a good way to be on the forefront of a historical event, but now some aren’t so sure.

The media has some real thinking to do and has some critical decisions to make about whether they should continue with their unit into the face of battle, said an accomplished LA Times photographer.

Their concerns are valid. Just days after their arrival, a fellow embed female photographer who was riding along with the Marines on one of their daily patrols was wounded when the vehicle she was riding in was hit by an improvised explosive device or an anti-tank mine. After being treated at the Marine’s Bravo Surgical Company here, she was flown to Baghdad for further treatment. Her husband is currently embedded with the Marines.

They all say they know someone in their line of work who has been wounded covering conflicts like the one they are now involved in, but some are wondering if they want to be next.

As artillery and airstrikes continue to pound away at weapons caches and insurgent defenses in the town right outside the relative safety of the camp, the journalists, reporters, and photographers with the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force are forced with the decision of how close they want to really be when Marines are called to battle.

Outside their hangout, a makeshift “chow-hall” in a building that Saddam Hussein used not too long ago, they smoke cigarettes and contemplate how important telling this particular story really is, and whether they really need to be at the “front” like many of them originally asked.

They all say this has been a great opportunity and are thankful for the help the Marines have provided. However, some have already changed their plans on how they are going to report the events of what seems will happen any day now.

Meanwhile, Marines and other service members continue to prepare for an operation that will help decide the future of Iraq – media by their side or not.

(Editor’s note – the names of the media representatives were left out of this article as a courtesy because they are doing the Marines, the United States and the world a great service by accurately reporting on the rebuilding of Iraq.)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: embeddedreport; fallujah; iraq; marines; msm; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; war; wot
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To: LibFreeOrDie

>>I'd hate for a Marine to risk his life to protect a reporter in combat. Let the reporters stay home.<<

The only reporter who should be allowed anywhere near these brave Marines is Ollie North.


41 posted on 11/07/2004 1:08:17 PM PST by netmilsmom (Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
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To: Ramonan; glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt; NormsRevenge

Ping...


42 posted on 11/07/2004 1:08:53 PM PST by tubebender (If I had know I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: All
I'm hardly a fan of the media. But these guys (women too I guess) have a right to be scared. I'm sure not going to criticize them from the comfort of my living room.
43 posted on 11/07/2004 1:09:45 PM PST by Artemis Webb
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To: ken5050
I have to disagree. Anyone who isn't nervous/scared/worried before going into combat isn't normal. Ther Marines have the training, and the hands on combat experience....

My pop said the same thing... all men that face battle are afraid... or liars. They may be at peace with what will come, but fear and apprehension is normal.

44 posted on 11/07/2004 1:12:31 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: ken5050

I understand their fears. What I don't understand is that they do not write more accounts of the bravery and accomplishments of our troops.


45 posted on 11/07/2004 1:15:36 PM PST by Carolinamom (I was hot on Rove before it was cool to be hot.)
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To: Dick Vomer

Thanks for the vote of agreement...."Cowboys and Aggies, huh?"..been a tough weekend for you, my friend..


46 posted on 11/07/2004 1:15:50 PM PST by ken5050
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To: Max Combined
More importantly, the Marines have big brass balls and the media do not.

i think the idea of embedded media is great, but i am not sure i would volunteer to go into a battle representing the media. i do not argue with your comment on the marines -- they are great and are doing the world a great service. the marines have been trained, inherently know that they can trust their fellow soldier and have justice on their side. the media folks have not gone through boot camp, so to speak. let's save our attack on the media until we see how their reports come out. if fair reporting, give 'em credit. if not, sick the marines on 'em (smile).

47 posted on 11/07/2004 1:21:50 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: Ramonan
“What if I get separated, what if I think I’m in a safe place and all of a sudden an insurgent walks in with a gun,” he said.

you kill him, or you will end up wishing you had. duh.

48 posted on 11/07/2004 1:23:26 PM PST by King Prout (tagline under reconstruction)
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To: Ramonan

I hope they stay clear. The last thing our boys need is someone looking over their shoulder. It is going to be a fight to the end as-is. I hope they all stay out.


49 posted on 11/07/2004 1:24:35 PM PST by BoBToMatoE
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To: MissAmericanPie
"For some, the embed program seemed like a good idea and a good way to be able to stir anti-war protests, report on the body count, disparage the military men's aggression and be on the forefront of a historical event, but now some aren't so sure.

for those media folks who continue with the assignment they volunteered for, i am sure that seeing the attrocities of the other side will be "enlightening" so to speak. we kicked butt so easily against saddam that the embedded media was mostly seeing a great force at work and not seeing the true colors of the terrorists and their tactics. i think there will be less spin when some of these guys have close experiences with death.

50 posted on 11/07/2004 1:26:09 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: ErnBatavia
Pyle died on April 18, 1945. A sniper's bullet killed him on the island of Ie Shima, just off the coast of Okinawa, where island-hopping American forces were making a push toward mainland Japan.

Reminds me of the quote that goes something like this: "Generals are killed by sniper fire; privates are killed by random fire." A bullet is a bullet.

51 posted on 11/07/2004 1:52:49 PM PST by Tallguy (Don't disturb me with talk of Hillary08!..I'd just like to bask in the afterglow for a while longer!)
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To: Ramonan
Which are the most conservative news agencies who have embedded reporters?
52 posted on 11/07/2004 2:01:13 PM PST by SteveH
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To: Ramonan
"With what seems an immenent assault on Fallujah coming in the next few days, media embedded with the Marines are rethinking their rolls."

CBS would prefer Pillsbury.

NBC wants an EggMcMuffin instead.

CNN? Why, they'd like scones!

The word is ROLES. With all that money spent on spin, how about hiring a proofreader, instead of merely running the spellchecker and looking silly?

53 posted on 11/07/2004 2:06:14 PM PST by LibertarianInExile ( "[Y]our arguments are devoid of value. I, as a woman, have so declared it." -- BushIsTheMan)
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To: rface
the women in our military are great Americans - the American media (and especially the international media) is largely a bunch of pussies - (can I say that???)

During the initial Iraq invasion and the taking of Bagdad, I saw many many imbeded reporters of FNC, which included LTC Oliver North USMC(Ret).

A few received minor injuries, but still stayed on. No matter what you say these reporters are brave people and doing a great job.

Be careful who you paint with your wide brush.

One more thing, where did you serve?

54 posted on 11/07/2004 2:09:29 PM PST by rstevens
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To: LibertarianInExile

And it's obvious they didn't even use a spellchecker, either, with "immenent" still in there.


55 posted on 11/07/2004 2:09:37 PM PST by LibertarianInExile ( "[Y]our arguments are devoid of value. I, as a woman, have so declared it." -- BushIsTheMan)
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To: Ramonan

Translation:

"I, Mr. Media, don't want to be beheaded."


56 posted on 11/07/2004 2:23:10 PM PST by GretchenM
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To: G.Mason
“What if I get separated, what if I think I’m in a safe place and all of a sudden an insurgent walks in with a gun, what if I crap in my pants?"
57 posted on 11/07/2004 2:26:51 PM PST by slimer (I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
"I'd hate for a Marine to risk his life to protect a reporter in combat. Let the reporters stay home."

Agree. . .

I am also wondering how many of the MSM reporters might be saying a prayer themselves before this battle.

58 posted on 11/07/2004 2:36:14 PM PST by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: gg188
What kind of man would allow or send his wife into harm's way?

A liberal reporter kind of man

59 posted on 11/07/2004 2:37:45 PM PST by skr (Real Americans vote for what's best for America)
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To: Ramonan
(Editor’s note – the names of the media representatives were left out of this article as a courtesy because they are doing the Marines, the United States and the world a great service by accurately reporting on the rebuilding of Iraq.)

. . .bump for media spin. . .

60 posted on 11/07/2004 2:39:08 PM PST by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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