The heartland - Red State America is continuing to become redder. And the Democrats are still losing ground. Different strategy? As long as they're liberals - good luck in trying to put lipstick and a fresh coat of paint on a Democratic pig. A liberal pig is still a liberal pig.
To: goldstategop
Bush did better than he did in 2000 everywhere, except for Vermont.
2 posted on
11/06/2004 12:12:35 AM PST by
My2Cents
(The Democrat Party is pining for the fjords.)
To: goldstategop
2006 and 2008 are going to be weird. These people are so fake. Now they're going to trade notes on how to look and sound religious. Normal people will find it hard not to fall down laughing at them.
3 posted on
11/06/2004 12:12:37 AM PST by
GeronL
(Congratulations Bush on your re-election VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: goldstategop
Wisconsin is so close this year that the military absentees might force it over to us at the end of this month. Ditto for New Hampshire.
Pennsylvania and Michigan were likewise close.
The above four states represent the easiest of curent blue states to be won over to our side in 2008. That would make it 35 states to the left's 15.
5 posted on
11/06/2004 12:16:12 AM PST by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: goldstategop
Beware of 2008, if we run RINO's like Guiliani, we will lose Iowa, New Mexico and weaken our support in the heartland. Had we supported a real R(Toomey) in PA,we could have energized thier base and captured the state.
To: goldstategop
This is guy is right what they need is another candidate like clinton who does a good job lying about being religious (Blow Job in oval office) and they have a chance at winning.
To: goldstategop
I just can't wait to see the Dems humiliate themselves trying to appear religious and pious. They're going to be falling all over each other trying to say religious things, and it will look hilariously phony. It can only help our side, which is great with me :)
15 posted on
11/06/2004 2:12:15 AM PST by
blitzgig
To: goldstategop
"Let's get a message and redefine our party in a way that people will want to vote for us, and then our candidate will probably do fine," From said. "A candidate who eliminates the culture gap, eliminates the security gap [on national defense issues], is willing to compete all over this country and has an effective agenda for reform will do fine, no matter where he or she is from."
You know, I think there's reason to take heart from this kind of talk. Think about how long the Dems have been pulling the entire mainstream to the Left. Take homosexuality as an example: not so long ago, it was considered immoral by virtually everyone in the entire country. Today, as a result of the Dims, Republicans have had to soften their stance on it considerably, or risk being viewed as hatemongers. And it's gone to such an extreme, that in some parts of the country, it's almost considered "cool" to be gay (look at all the shows on TV for verification). The Dems pulled everyone to the left.
So now the Dims are realizing that they have to soften their stances toward conservative values. Even if that means they just "talk the talk" and don't believe any of it, it still has a profound effect on the mainstream. As an obvious example, Dems will have to stop associating religion with stupidity -- and thus, their supporters will become more tolerant of it, as will the average voter towards the center, and so on.
Think how much trashing Dems have done of conservative culture over recent years. You better believe that has an impact on how the mainstream thinks.
So I say, "bravo!" to Bush and all Republicans. It's about time someone started pulling the mainstream of this country to the RIGHT, for a change.
To: goldstategop
If the Democrats had credibly dropped their insane and politically suicidal support for gun control and federal protection of abortion, Kerry would be the president-elect today.
The insane (and I must say, gratifying)element in all of this is that gun-control measures accomplish nothing except the defeat of democrats and if SCOTUS ruled against Row v Wade many of the states would still largely allow it. These two issues do almost nothing to reduce crime or allow abortions but they do serve to defeat democrats
To: goldstategop
The Dims face two structural problems that will continue to move them to the left and continue to marginalize the DemocRATS.
First, the Dim office holders who are "super dlegates" to the convention are increasingly represented in the bluest of blue states forcing a candidate for the nomination to bow to the liberal agenda.
Second, their money and activists are left wing nutso types like Babs, Moveon, MIchael "The Hut" Moore.
32 posted on
11/06/2004 4:15:53 AM PST by
tort_feasor
(www.swiftvets.com)
To: goldstategop
Not just the heartland. NYS is called a blue state, but it's made up mostly of red counties. So calling it a blue state, to my mind anyway, is a misnomer. The only truly red state in the nation this time around, county by county, was MA.
38 posted on
11/06/2004 4:44:49 AM PST by
mewzilla
To: goldstategop
We've got you surrounded. Come out with your hands up or we'll open fire!
40 posted on
11/06/2004 4:48:59 AM PST by
sergeantdave
(No parades for you, Kerry)
To: goldstategop
I don't want to rain on the parade, but there is a factor in this election that deservers serious attention. Much has been made of the fact that Bush won more votes than any other prez candidate in history, but the truth is that Kerry's vote total was also higher than any other candidates' before this election. And this is with the Dems running one of the most liberal candidates ever.
To me, it's easy to see what the Dem strategy will be, and how easily it could work. All they have to do is peel off a few votes from the Republicans, to keep them from coming to the polls. And frankly, history shows that Republicans could easily blow it when holding the presidency and the legislative branches. Look at Clinton's overeach in 1992 and the only thing that saved him was Perot in both elections. He still ended up losing the legislature.
41 posted on
11/06/2004 4:52:44 AM PST by
mongrel
To: goldstategop
The heartland - Red State America is continuing to become redder. And the Democrats are still losing ground. Different strategy? As long as they're liberals - good luck in trying to put lipstick and a fresh coat of paint on a Democratic pig. A liberal pig is still a liberal pig.All I hear from them is "We need to change our approach", "we need to appeal to the Christian conservatives."
And then they go right into their same old HATE BUSH SPEECH.
I just laugh to myself. They just don't get it and I sleep better at night because they don't.
47 posted on
11/06/2004 5:09:06 AM PST by
Tom602
(I used to suffer from DIPS!! Democrat Induced Profanity Syndrome. Now I just smile... :^D)
To: goldstategop
Dick Harpootlian, former chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party, was more blunt. "As of now, Hillary Clinton's a bad idea," he said. Hillary Clinton's always a bad idea, no matter what the time, place and/or circumstances. :)
52 posted on
11/06/2004 6:17:48 AM PST by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
(I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
To: goldstategop
"As of now, Hillary Clinton's a bad idea," he said."
Hasn't she always been a bad idea? Why only as of now?
54 posted on
11/06/2004 8:57:53 AM PST by
GSlob
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