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Public School grades 1-20
Baseballguy

Posted on 11/05/2004 8:27:01 AM PST by Baseballguy

I would like to get a feel on what Freepers think of my idea.

I have been witnessing a shift for school bonds. I have been seeing this as the only way a local school district to get their additional funding. The problem is its an unfair tax burden on those that have bigger higher valued homes. I think its time to realize that the country does want to educate our children.

I want to put education back in the hands of all the citizens of the USA. Not just property owners. Why not just make every income creating citizen pay $500 a year?

Why only have public schools for 1-12 grade. We need all those that want a higher education to have it. Grades 13-20 would be tested and evaluated ever year. When you enter 9th grade you can then choose a education and start learning. The course work you start taking would be pointed. You have till grade 12 to choose. You can become a PhD, Engineer, lawyer…….. You can rejoin these public schools as often as you like as long as your can test to the next grade.

Every school will be equal. There will be no difference between any state, county, districts. All the money that the federal government gets will be allocated based on population in each state.

It’s a time in history we come to realize that public schools are beyond help cause of certain ideals. We need to break the idea that any school should get more money based on need.

College’s as they are now still don’t have it right. There should be a classroom for every member of our society. For with education come greater thinking and prosperity.


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We need a new fresh start. Lets see if we can fix this once and for all.
1 posted on 11/05/2004 8:27:02 AM PST by Baseballguy
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To: Baseballguy

What?


2 posted on 11/05/2004 8:30:43 AM PST by EggsAckley
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Sounds good except you forgot one thing - people will be involved. Where will the struggle for money or power fit in to this solutiuon? How will we exclude those who don't meet our criteria? You need to flesh this out a little more.

(Warning, some sarcasm was used in the creation of this response.)


3 posted on 11/05/2004 8:31:18 AM PST by UseYourHead (Smith & Wesson: The original point-and-click interface)
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We could call grades 13-20 "Re-Educating and Indoctrination Centers".


4 posted on 11/05/2004 8:33:17 AM PST by Naspino (Not creative enough to have a tagline.)
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i think there should be NO public school for the masses... maybe just for those in dire need--meaning the poorest of the poor... just like public housing... (the way it was meant to be way back in the early days of our country.)


5 posted on 11/05/2004 8:33:40 AM PST by latina4dubya
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Why would you come to FR to post support for Federal Government growth and socialistic principles?


6 posted on 11/05/2004 8:41:36 AM PST by CSM
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Yes, we need a bigger government cartel on education, and everybody needs to go to college! </sarc!


7 posted on 11/05/2004 8:45:20 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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Start by eliminating public schools and replacing that system with a 100% voucher system designed to finance no-frills serious academic education only. Plenty of schools will pop up which keep their costs at or below the voucher level. If people want their children to go to schools with big sports facilities and other extras, let them pay for it themselves.


8 posted on 11/05/2004 8:47:46 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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We could call grades 13-20 "Re-Educating and Indoctrination Centers".

Or we could just call it The Ministry of Love.

9 posted on 11/05/2004 9:04:49 AM PST by DrDavid (Tomorrow will be an even better day...)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Vouchers are a fix for the current system. With a national system we loose a lot of special interest groups. We get standard testing controlled at the higher national level. I see the cabinet of Education position becoming what it is meant to be.


10 posted on 11/05/2004 9:10:39 AM PST by Baseballguy
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Why would you come to FR to post support for Federal Government growth and socialistic principles?

This is not only a principle that needs addressed but confronted. With a larger portion of my property taxes being created by school bonds do you think we can do anything less than trashing the current system and give the people what they truly want? Socialism in education is not the end but the beginning of fair taxation and rebalancing the education field.


11 posted on 11/05/2004 9:15:11 AM PST by Baseballguy
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We have standardized testing, provided by the private sector. The SAT, ACT, GRE and others are quite effective measures of ability and achievement. Just get the public schools out of the picture, and you'll see similar nationally recognized tests emerging at the earlier grade levels. We do NOT need a standardized curriculum.


12 posted on 11/05/2004 9:23:49 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: latina4dubya; Baseballguy

Here! Here! latina4dubya! Government should not be running schools OR financing them. The FEDERAL government should not spend one PENNY on "education." The poor, the retarded, orphans--all could be taken care of infinitely better by private charity than by government.


13 posted on 11/05/2004 9:28:31 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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Yeehaw. Let's destroy the finest university systems in the world.


14 posted on 11/05/2004 9:30:07 AM PST by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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Who has the right to choose which students they will accept. Does not every high school grad deserve a colledge education. If you level and standardize the system and make the student achieve instead of college name the you have achieved. Why does one college cost $4000 a year and another $16000?


15 posted on 11/05/2004 9:40:24 AM PST by Baseballguy
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The poor, the retarded, orphans--all could be taken care of infinitely better by private charity than by government.

exactly--this is an area where the church used to step in... and their main goal was to teach children to READ... it's amazing that while abled bodies would never even think of obtaining public housing, they so readily accept public education--no questions asked...

16 posted on 11/05/2004 9:57:13 AM PST by latina4dubya
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I think its time to realize that the country does want to educate our children.

Our children????

You gave birth to my child?

17 posted on 11/05/2004 10:02:12 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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I want to put education back in the hands of all the citizens of the USA.

We get standard testing controlled at the higher national level. I see the cabinet of Education position becoming what it is meant to be.

One of these things is not like the others, one of these things is not the same...

18 posted on 11/05/2004 10:07:08 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I thought that one of the reasons that the US Nat'l Forests were devised was to use the sale of forest resources to finance education.


19 posted on 11/05/2004 10:23:16 AM PST by Don W (God KNOWS!)
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I guess the sense of being able to educate my child could be viewed as a private issue. Where I do not give money to a pool for the government to educate my child. Where I educate my child to my standards.

I guess this makes sense. Do we accept what comes from total private unobtrusive education.


20 posted on 11/05/2004 10:42:45 AM PST by Baseballguy
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