[Liz]

When respondents were asked to pick the one issue that mattered most in choosing a president, "moral values" ranked first at 22 percent, surpassing the economy (20 percent), terrorism (19 percent) and Iraq (15 percent).

Beware the "Uriah Heeps" out there planning, plotting, ingratiating their way into conservatives' confidence.

They would manhandle our conservative victory----to dilute the mandate conferred by proto-conservatives----for their own self-serving agendas.

The Uriah Heeps could care less for the rights of the unborn, and the restoration of conservative values to our beleagured Nation, and the rest of proto-conservative issues that drove millions of Christians to the polls.

The agenda-laden Uriahs, the elliptical thinkers---lurk in the shadows-----plotting ways to take credit for conservative victories.

It ain't gonna happen.

Any mucking up of our hard-won conservative victory will be met with fierce resistance.

Moral issues were Election 2004's key issues, and moral issues alone will set the agenda.

We will not stand by silently while the Uriahs do their Everything-For-Us-Nothing-For-You act.

[sphinx]

The left, he and others argue, has to show the religious basis for its policy positions

Moloch lapel pins?

[Dataman]

Anti-Gay Marriage Amendment

Is that like anti-molester child protection laws?
Or anti-killer murder prohibitions?

[Mr Ramsbotham]

Beware the "Uriah Heeps" out there planning, plotting, ingratiating their way into conservatives' confidence.

You'll know them by the size of their Bibles.

[ProudVet77]

I've yet to hear mention of the veteran vote. There are millions of vets out there as well as millions of veterans families, and I would guess 75-80% voted against Kerry. You are talking a huge vote. You could almost ignore the draft dodger, but Kerry was a filthy traitor.

[Dataman]

The Rev. Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State put it more starkly. "The culture war may go nuclear," he said, as "millions of Americans oppose the theocratic agenda of the Religious Right."

The anti-Rev. Barry Lynn admits that it is the secularists who split the culture and will go on the offensive against Christians and Jews. The Left is always the aggressor.

[xtinct]

Note to ABC

John Kerry is NOT a Catholic. Kerry was posing as a Catholic.

Catholics believe in the 10 Commandments and the 7 Sacraments.

This means they are opposed to killing except in self-defense. Abortion, stem-cell research, and killing a 'fleeing' unarmed teen in Vietnam are against the religion.

Marriage is between a man and a women.

While Kerry told us he did not personally believe in abortion, he also said he 'approved' it for others.

While Kerry said he believed marriage was between a man and a woman, he said he approved same sex marriage for others.

He was talking out two sides of his mouth. People recognized that despite the efforts of educators to dumb them down.

[blondee123]

The election shows that Democrats in 2008 "are going to have to say they are religiously attuned to America and make it stick and make it authentic,"

Well, that wouldn't be Hillary then in 2008! LOL LOL

[EBH]

"The election shows that Democrats in 2008 "are going to have to say they are religiously attuned to America and make it stick and make it authentic," said Michael Cromartie, an expert on evangelicalism at the conservative Ethics and Public Policy Center. "All future political consultants are going to have to understand religious sensibilities as part of the resume."
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I see they still don't really get it. It's about right and wrong. No matter what the left wants to say about it being religion, it really comes down to having base in morality.

[NYer]

Democrat John Kerry drew 62 percent of Americans who never attend worship, but they only accounted for 14 percent of voters.

Perhaps it is still too early in the morning to grasp, but what do these numbers represent? 14% of voters = the 62% who never attend worship services ... huh?

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list

[samtheman]

Last night on H&C the President of NOW was on and she said if the Democratic party abandoned "the rights of gays" she would bolt.

That's the way it is. The left currently controls the RAT agenda. But if the moderate RATS (??) tried to take the party back, the left would abandon them. They would probably vote 3rd party, splitting the RATS in two.

The RATS are stuck between a rock and a hard place. And as someone who has lived in China, where you occasionally see a smashed rat on the street (where someone has taken a rock and clobbered one of the critters on the pavement) I have to tell you: it ain't a pretty sight.

Meanwhile, what IS a pretty sight (to contemplate a completely different image, for a moment) is that photo of the Bush family posing together shortly after the election victory. What a sweet victory. What a wonderful family. What a great President. What a wonderful country. What a great election.

[Just mythoughts]

"Anti-Gay Marriage Amendment Approvals Reinforce U.S. Religious and Moral Divide"


This has to be Hillry's worst nightmare. One has to wonder what will be the liberals approach to overturning the will of voters.

[piasa]

The exit polls weren't accurate from the beginning and now some want to tell us the exit polls mean that only moral issues drove the election... but not the war.

It's their new matra, their desperate effort to continue to try to define the war as a failure.

But the election's single most important issue really was the war, and our objection to the way the media had twisted it and undermined it.

We knew the media had twisted its reporting because we all had our loved ones involved in the fight and from them we heard news we could trust and uses as a baseline for deciding for ourselves how the war was going.

The rejection of Hollyweird values was a part of it, but then, moral issues also applies to matters of war and peace, terrorism and so on. To a conservative, everything relates to moral issues. The term covers a broad range of ideas, depending on who you're talking to and when you talk to them. Some may think of the defense of marriage when asked, while others' first concern is defense of religious liberty in a war against Islamic zealots, and still others are concerned about integrity in business.

[foolscap]

What they are missing is the fact that the gay marriage issue brought out a lot of voters who are not Christan. I was very surprised that many of my left leaning friends were more anti-gay marriage than I was. These were people I thought would embrace it wholeheartedly. When they voted they voted Kerry or Nader but all voted for the ban on gay marriage. The press is making this look like a bunch of narrow minded Christians are the only ones who voted against it. It is simply not true and it is a backhanded way to taking another slap at the religious right. The religious right is certainly a force to be reconded with but the press grossly overestimates their power. They do not report that it is not unusual for the religious right to sit out elections. The way the press makes it sound is that every evangelical and catholic are at the polls every time. The facts do not back that up

I spoke with a friend last night who was very upset that Bush won. She said now all birth control, stem cell research and abortions will be baned. I doubt that greatly. The press trts to make the Christan right the very picture of evil. She said Bush would just go in lockstep with whatever Pat Robertson and his ilk dictated. She and many like her believe that Bush is basically stupid and is being controlled by powerful Christian groups. I told her that Bush was no ways near as stupid as the press would have us believe. I mentioned that the Christian right is just another special interest group and has as much right to speak and push their agenda as groups like the Sierra Club or Move On. Org. One may disagree with them but that does not give the left to try and silence them.

[NYer]

Bump!

[KwasiOwusu]

" Exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and television networks by Edison Media Research/Mitofsky International showed clearly that the president draws much of his support from religious people"

Old Media continue to deceive, disinform and spin tirelessly.
Is this the same "The Associated Press and television networks by Edison Media Research/Mitofsky International" that came out with hose fraudulent "exit polls" that showed Kerry solidly ahead in both Florida and Ohio, even with President Bush in NC and leading PA by as much as 20%?
The Associated Press that manufactured these fraudulent exit polls, has a very big nerve indeed showing their face in public and coming out with even more of their totally discredited "exit poll" rubbish!
Their pathetic attempt to put President Bush's win down to just some so-called "religious people" is despicable. and lacks merit. President Bush was solidly backed by the broadest swatch of Americans any President has ever had. The Associated Press can take that in their pipes and smoke it!

[stockpirate]

I think that what the peoplemeant was Bush was someone with Morals and you could trust what he says and know he will follow through. And Kerry was a person without Morals and you could not trust what he says.

[aardvark1]

This religious divide has existed for over 100 years. It shows itself in different faces. For awhile, it seemed to be confined to the church and seminaries. It then morphed itself into the issue of prayer in schools, then abortion, now the homosexual marriage issue.

Interestingly, it's not religious against non-religious. It's religious liberals on the political left and religious conservatives on the right. The current issue dividing the two may be different, but the underlying core ideas are the same.

One difference in today's landscape is that Roman Catholics used to be Democrats, by and large. However, now the conservative RCs have been driven from the left (e.g. Gov. Casey in PA) over the abortion issue and now homosexual marriage.

The political left cannot connect with the "heartland" because the source of its core values is completely different from those it will try to chase.

[Salvation]

BTTT!

[Salvation]

PRESIDENT BUSH WON CATHOLIC VOTE