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Swing State Exit Poll vs. Actual Results Analysis (17/18 skewed in favor of Kerry)
Slate, Yahoo | 11/4/04 | Cableguy

Posted on 11/04/2004 4:20:26 PM PST by Cableguy

Actual Exit Poll
EV Bush Kerry Margin Bush Kerry Margin Diff
Swing States
FL 27 52 47 5 49 51 -2 -7
PA 21 49 51 -2 46 53 -7 -5
OH 20 51 49 2 49 51 -2 -4
MI 17 48 51 -3 46 52 -6 -3
MN 10 48 51 -3 46 52 -6 -3
WI 10 49 50 -1 48 51 -3 -2
IA 7 50 49 1 49 50 -1 -2
NM 5 50 49 1 48 50 -2 -3
NV 5 50 48 2 48 49 -1 -3
NH 4 49 50 -1 44 54 -10 -9
Likely States
NJ 15 46 53 -7 44 54 -10 -3
WA 11 46 52 -6
NC 15 56 43 13 52 48 4 -9
VA 13 54 45 9
MO 11 53 46 7 52 47 5 -2
TN 11 57 42 15
AZ 10 55 44 11 55 45 10 -1
CO 9 53 46 7 50 49 1 -6
LA 9 57 42 15 56 43 13 -2
OR 7 47 52 -5
AR 6 54 45 9 54 45 9 0
WV 5 56 43 13 54 45 9 -4
ME 4 45 53 -8
HI 4 45 54 -9
 

Note: Red=Bush state/lead, Blue=Kerry state/lead


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: exitpoll
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Am I the only one who sees conspiracy, liberal bias, or both?
1 posted on 11/04/2004 4:20:28 PM PST by Cableguy
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To: dvwjr; Dales; RWR8189; ambrose; LS; counterpunch; skaterboy; Iowa Granny; Illinois Rep; kesg; ...

ping


2 posted on 11/04/2004 4:21:09 PM PST by Cableguy (Four More Years! Four More Years! Four More Years! Four More Years! Four More Years!)
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To: Cableguy

MSM kept trying until the last minute.


3 posted on 11/04/2004 4:22:51 PM PST by ILS21R (Cheaters never win and winners never cheat)
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To: Cableguy
It's time to junk all exit polling. It's not like getting the ACTUAL results two or three hours later is such an inconvenience (except to the media).
4 posted on 11/04/2004 4:23:28 PM PST by atomicpossum (They pelted us with rocks and garbage.)
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To: Cableguy

ping.


5 posted on 11/04/2004 4:23:53 PM PST by Shaka
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To: Cableguy
I posted here before that the director of the company who did Exit Polls used to work for CBS for 2 decades.
6 posted on 11/04/2004 4:24:55 PM PST by paudio (4 More Years..... Thank you!!!)
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To: Cableguy

Looks like the bias wa about 3% average towards Kerry, so sad even there exit poll cheating couldnt help them.


7 posted on 11/04/2004 4:25:11 PM PST by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: Cableguy

The odds that 17/18 would be in error in one direction, and 0/18 would be in error in the other direction is so astronomically unlikely to be a result of sampling error that it's obvious there's a systemic bias in the data. Whether the source of the bias is deliberate, or reflects some sort of incompetence I don't know.


8 posted on 11/04/2004 4:25:57 PM PST by Moral Hazard
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To: Cableguy
Am I the only one who sees conspiracy, liberal bias, or both?

By no means. But on the other hand, this very disparity could incite a new rash of stolen-election whines.

9 posted on 11/04/2004 4:26:35 PM PST by TenaciousZ
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To: Cableguy

Well they got Arizona right, but what are the odds they every other state would be wrong and would be wrong in Kerry's favor. Pretty unlikely.


10 posted on 11/04/2004 4:27:21 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Cableguy

I have long held that exit polling should be banned, and that poll-results reporting should be held in abeyance until the last poll in the country had closed.

simple solution to all this mess, eh?


11 posted on 11/04/2004 4:27:51 PM PST by King Prout ("We've found more WMDs in Iraq than we've found disenfranchised blacks in Florida." - Ann Coulter)
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To: Cableguy
We saw here clear and convincing evidence that exit polling can be manipulated for political purposes. Just as the MSM has discredited itself this year, this puts a black eye on polling organizations.

If I were an honest pollster, I'd be furious at what happened.

12 posted on 11/04/2004 4:27:56 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Cableguy

"Am I the only one who sees conspiracy, liberal bias, or both?"

Especially when once also considers that Dem consultants and campaign workers stood ready to use the figures to create the impression of an impending Kerry sweep.


13 posted on 11/04/2004 4:29:00 PM PST by Warlord
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To: Moral Hazard; Cableguy

The odds that 17/18 would be in error in one direction, and 0/18 would be in error in the other direction is so astronomically unlikely to be a result of sampling error that it's obvious there's a systemic bias in the data. Whether the source of the bias is deliberate, or reflects some sort of incompetence I don't know.
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Exactly Moral Hazard. Cableguy you really presented this data well. Showing the error always on the same side shows clearly something was wrong.


14 posted on 11/04/2004 4:29:42 PM PST by JLS
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To: atomicpossum

The efforts by the MSM to influence the election's outcome by reporting false Kerry numbers may have had the opposite effect: it made Rush, Hannity, et al, get out the base. That may have made the difference.


15 posted on 11/04/2004 4:31:00 PM PST by brivette
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To: Moral Hazard

I would say incompetence, but then again maybe our LAwyers and inside guys stopped massive fraud that was supposed to be covered up by these numbers.


16 posted on 11/04/2004 4:31:31 PM PST by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: paudio

What's his/her name?


17 posted on 11/04/2004 4:32:28 PM PST by brivette
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To: Cableguy
What the rats did was...send paid people to voting locations...then have them come out and look like they just voted. Then those folks gave false info about voting for kerry. This is what the rats did.

Why did they do it? To keep Republicans from going to vote (however, it fired up the Republicans even more). That didn't happen, what most likely happened was the rats heard the exit polls and they're the ones who didn't show up to vote.

The Rats cheating back fired on them big time. ;o)

18 posted on 11/04/2004 4:33:53 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: brivette
Mitofsky.

http://www.mitofskyinternational.com/company.htm

Mitofsky International is a survey research company founded by Warren J. Mitofsky in 1993. Its primary business is conducting exit polls for major elections around the world. It does this work exclusively for news organizations. Mitofsky has directed exit polls and quick counts since 1967 for almost 3,000 electoral contests in United States, Mexico, Russia and the Philippines.

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From 1967 to 1990, Mitofsky was executive director of the CBS News election and survey unit, and was an executive producer of its election night broadcasts. He conducted the first exit polls for CBS in 1967, and developed the projection and analysis system used successfully by CBS and Voter News Service. He started the CBS News/New York Times Poll in 1975 and directed it for CBS for its first 15 years.

19 posted on 11/04/2004 4:35:28 PM PST by paudio (4 More Years..... Thank you!!!)
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To: Cableguy; Moral Hazard; JLS

If these results are correct, and if they represent all the exit polling, then I calculate (back-of-the-envelope) a probability of about 1 in 100,000 of them being due to chance alone. (17/17 wrong, all in the same direction, is about 1/2 to the 17th power.)


20 posted on 11/04/2004 4:37:52 PM PST by sima_yi
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