Posted on 11/04/2004 3:55:13 PM PST by veronica
Democratic party supporter Moby wants to split America into three nations, following George W. Bush's Nov. 2 victory over Sen. John Kerry in the presidential election.
The disappointed dance star concedes President Bush received the majority of votes nationwide, after claiming vast swathes of middle America and the Deep South -- but argues California and New York should be granted independence from Bush's administration, because they voted overwhelmingly in favor of Kerry.
"America is essentially a right-wing Republican country. We might resist this fact, but it is a fact. It's not a fact in Manhattan. It's not a fact in L.A. or San Francisco... but for 100 plus million people it's a fact," he said.
"We live in a divided country. Can't we have the breakaway republics of 'North-east-istan' (north-east Us) and 'Pacific-stan' (west coast)?
"Wouldn't the red (Republican) states be happier without us? We could still travel freely and trade freely with them, but can't we just leave?
"Then you could have 3 countries: Northeastistan - Pacificstan - Redstateistan."
Whatever, I am just telling you what it says on the Img. addy and the quotes under it.
My sister sent me this e-mail a while back. It might bring a chuckle to some.
Subject: Don't mess with Texas!
[Please note that Texas is the only state with a legal right to secede
from the Union. (Reference the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of
1848.)
We Texans love y'all, but we'll have to take action if Kerry wins over
Bush. We'll miss you too. Texas has given all those complainers plenty
of time to get used to the results of the last election. After seeing
the whiners along the campaign route, the folks from Texas are
considering taking matters into their own hands.
Here is what will happen:
#1: If John Kerry becomes President of the United States, Texas will
immediately secede from the Union.
#2: George W. Bush will become the President of the Republic of Texas.
So what does Texas have to do to survive as a Republic?
1. NASA is just south of Houston, Texas. We will control the space
industry.
2. We refine over 85% of the gasoline in the United States.
3. Defense Industry--we have over 65% of it. The term "Don't mess with
Texas," will take on a whole new meaning.
4. Oil - we can supply all the oil that the Republic of Texas will need
for the next 300 years. Yankee states? Sorry about that.
5. Natural Gas - again we have all we need and it's too bad about those
northern states. John Kerry will figure out a way to keep them warm...
6. Computer Industry - we currently lead the nation in producing
computer chips and communications--small places like Texas Instruments,
Dell Computer, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola, Intel,
AMD, Atmel, Applied Materials, Ball Semiconductor, Dallas Semiconductor,
Delphi, Nortel, Alcatel, etc, etc. The list goes on and on.
7. Medical Care - We have the largest research centers for cancer
research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world,
as well as other large health centers. Dallas has some of the best
hospitals in the United States.
8. We have enough colleges to keep us going: University of Texas, Texas
A&M, Texas Tech, Rice, SMU, University of Houston, Baylor, UNT
(University of North Texas), Texas Women's University, etc. Ivy grows
better in the South anyway
9. We have a ready supply of workers. We could just open the border
when we need some more.
10. We have essential control of the paper industry, plastics,
insurance, etc.
11. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard and
the Texas Air National Guard. We don't have an Army, but since
everybody down here has at least six rifles and a pile of ammo, we can
raise an Army in
24 hours if we need one. If the situation really gets bad, we can
always call the Department of Public Safety and ask them to send over
Chuck Norris and a couple of Texas Rangers.
12. We are totally self-sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs, and several
types of grain, fruit and vegetables, and let's not forget seafood from
the Gulf. Also, everybody down here knows how to cook them so that they
taste good. Don't need any food.
This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic of Texas
in good shape. There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't
have.
Now to the rest of the United States under President Kerry:
Since you won't have the refineries to get gas for your cars, only
President Kerry will be able to drive around in his big 9 mpg SUV. The
rest of the United States will have to walk or ride bikes.
You won't have any TV as the Space Center in Houston will cut off
satellite communications.
You won't have any natural gas to heat your homes, but since Mr. Kerry
has predicted global warming, you will not need the gas.
Signed, The People of Texas
P.S. This is not a threatening letter - just a note to give you
something to think about...BEFORE YOU VOTE THIS NOVEMBER.
SLEEP WELL TONIGHT
Canada is closer. They can walk.
Ping to the DU'st DU'er of them all.
People on the coasts have thier own problem. But I'm fighting for the Great Lakes States!
Well, we could completely abandon the sewers (downtowns) that the Liberals have created, put up walls around them and just raise up another generation further out in the burban communities...
Moby: My side didn't win. Wah, wah, wah. Boo hoo hoo. I don't want to be American anymore if I'm not going to get my waaaaay.
Hey, Moby, you big d***, check the county map. You would have to split off tiny principalities of New York City, San Francisco and the like. The folks who live in most of the actual territory of the coastal "stans" that you propose, would secede and join your redstatistan. It is you who are out of touch.
understood... I looked at Newsmax' version as well.
Now we are engaged in a great Civil War, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, can long endure.
Moby to be president of Gay-istan.
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Look at the data FIRST before pushing line-drawing theories.
Looking at the by-state results gives the impression the far west and northeast should be handed over to Canada.
BUT...
Looking at the by-county results shows that even the blue (liberal) states are mostly red (conservative) by area. Don't eject CA/OR/WA just because a dozen counties there went to the dark side; most of that real estate is occupied by right-leaning rural folk. Even notoriously blue NY and CA are predominantly red, turned blue only by association with high-density blue NYC, LA, and SF.
Looking at the by-precinct results (not available yet, but I recall them from 2000) shows that the blue counties - at least most of them - are themselves mostly red by precinct.
The severly misunderstood issue in "us vs. them" political geography is that the liberal/socialist/leftist/communist/blue votes are very highly concentrated in very small areas. Of some 3,500,000 square miles of this country, only about 50,000 square miles majority votes for socialism! Ergo, if you want to discuss redrawing the "us vs. them" lines and/or outright secession/ejection/war of geographic regions, the real estate involved has a 70-to-1 red-to-blue size difference, with an almost uniformly red USA suffering a few tiny streaks of cancerous blue.
Hence, don't talk about state vs. state conflicts over red/blue left/right R/D differences.
why not begin a national dialog on an orderly separation, perhaps to be phased in over a number of years
Orderly separation of what? The leftists you & I wish to separate from live packed like sardines in a few tiny urban centers. Don't throw away CA just because of LA & SF - by straight acreage, most of CA agrees with you politically! ditto for NY.
The issue is not ejecting states. The issue is dealing with people who choose to live a highly dependent, sardine-packed lifestyle which naturally leads to a dramatically political/social view from the rest of us landowners. Unfortunately, there's about as many of them as of us, but the difference in population density and distribution is rarely considered seriously.
If you want a new theory of "orderly separation", figure out how to draw lines around urban areas and get everyone to understand that those inside urban boundaries do indeed have different socio-political needs from those outside.
Moby is a slightly past-tense popular musician. He was a big hit in the techno music world, is a slowly reforming hardcore vegan/animal-rightist/socialist/leftist, and his agent made the breakthrough of outright selling & marketing music for commercial use (ads, promos, movies, etc.) to a degree never seen before. He is highly opinionated (using his CDs to distribute lengthy diatraibes) and prone to making high-profile goofy political statements.
I like his music. When it comes to politics, he should stick to dancing on keyboards.
We tried to do that once.
Ooh! Ooh ooh!
I have a MUCH better idea.
Why don't we have ALL states secede from the union, then rejoin in a loose confederation with a very limited federal government that exists for few reasons other than to share a common military protection, to secure our external borders, and to operate a post office?
Then no one would much CARE who wins the presidency.
As someone said on an earlier thread: "Cool, they get the tall buildings and they get the food."
Oops, I meant to type "we get the food."
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