He should get in line.
Posted on 11/04/2004 2:21:09 PM PST by Cableguy
Thanks to lessons learned four years ago when big media made some wrong calls, the average American watching television Tuesday night got a pretty accurate picture of how the election was going.
But for about seven hours in the afternoon and early evening, several million "insiders" with access to exit-poll data -- blog readers, print journalists, TV executives, politicos and their e-mail buddies -- had a different impression.
Aided by wishful thinking in some cases, many were convinced that John Kerry was benefitting from a powerful voter surge. The news largely wasn't reported on TV or in newspapers, but for much of the day, the nation's tech-savvy intelligentsia was zigging when everyone else was zagging.
What happened? The early exit polls were wrong in some cases. And some insiders disregarded warnings from the exit pollsters that theirs is an inexact science. By comparison, most pre-election polls were quite accurate: They gave President Bush a narrow lead nationally, and correctly identified the battleground states.
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"What's WSJ doing running intereference for the MSM?"
They're a member of the MSM, albeit one of the few conservative ones.
Dick Morris is on the radio today with Dan Patrick (local host KSEV Houston). They were scheduled for an afternoon cable interview together (cancelled because of Arafat reporting).
Dick Morris has said that there should be a criminal investigation into the Democrat attempts at interfering with the poll results.
He should get in line.
I hear you. Nov. 2nd was the first anniversary of the death of my mom. I was in a blue funk most of the day.
Yes they are. I know we tried to debunk them here on FR. Here is on example from the time:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1266800/posts?page=47#47
Also, it appears the Kerry Campaign leaked it with the hope it would get published. Here is the link to the story today:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1270480/posts?page=5#5
From post: "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ^ | 11/4/04 | JESSE DRUCKER and GLENN R. SIMPSON "
Is this paper turning Left - or only some of their writers -
I heard on a news program today - the Kerry/Edwards people told their supporters to vote early - then to find the people who put out the exit polls -
If so - the reasons behind the action would be interesting to hear - Lots of motives come to mind -
....although less so than the 7-11 coffee cup poll
But now we meet screeches of, "The bloggers are to blame!" and we, too, are tarred with the same brush.
Now this is bothersome, to be sure; we used the net to FIGHT the fallacious exit polls, we didn't promulgate them. But another effect of this slight is that elites will take their eyes off us once again; we're not to be listened too, see?
Well, that's good --that's the lofty arrogance that got us started, and that's the snooty elitism we need to keep going. I, for one, am not going to stop and I don't think you are going to, either.
So police up your gear and get ready for the next round --this is fun!
And remember Reagan's words, "There is no limit to a man's potential as long as he doesn't care who gets the credit..."
Or the Halloween mask poll.
The first wave of exit-poll data, compiled by a media-owned consortium called the National Election Pool, went out to subscribers at about 2 p.m. The consortium consists of the five big purveyors of TV news plus the Associated Press.
So the excuse is -
"We created the bad numbers, and gave them to the insiders, and said SShhh don't tell anyone about these inaccurate numbers "
... ????
Those polls were cooked. It's that simple. And if the web hadn't been handy for disseminating the info, I'm sure the Kerry campaign would've found another way to get it out. What I want to know is if the pollsters were in on it, too, or if Kerry's people found out where the polling was to be done and stacked the polling places with useful idiots.
IT WAS NOT THE BLOGGERS. It was the KERRY CAMPAIGN WHO LEAKED THE INFO. And .. the company hired by the MSM to conduct the exit polls is an old former employee of CBS/NYT. If you add in Joe Lockhart .. I'm sure you can connect the dots.
They can blame this blogger...I was warning anyone who would listen the exits were bogus and to just turn off their radios and tv's and vote or make sure someone else is going to vote.
As we see yet again, many more conventional wisdoms bit the dust and the biggest was "high voter turnout helps Democrats". HA!
Overall, Bush increased his vote total by 17.5% from 2000 while Kerry got 9.3% over Gore's total. Bush only lost votes in three states (CA, AK, WA) but Kerry lost votes also in CA and WA (population shifts?). I was surprised to see Bush down 16,000 votes from 2000 in Alaska.
Bush's closest state he won was New Mexico with +10,164 and the closest state he lost was NH with -9,171.
???if my guy is leading big time i don't have to vote??? is this what they mean?
Rats blamed the internet, but it was Kerry's team that did it.
Zogby's rep has been totally trashed. Holds NO credibility at all from this point on.
i'd rather have *wrong* information and be the one to decide what information i'll accept. i definitely won't allow NBCBSNYTIMEABCNN decide for me (which is really what all this is about -- they claim a monopoly on "truth").
the net as a corrobaration tool i can use to my own satisfaction to verify some blog fact (another blog analyzing *why* the exit poll blog is wrong!).
Since the information spread so quickly, at least some folks could compare what the phoney exit polls with other evidence available - a fake poll saying Va. was going Democratic? come on! it didn't jive with the reports on FR about the long lines in small towns everywhere and empty ones in the big cities, reports that cropped up time and time again...
i think the danger was that the exit poll show up unobtrusively AFTER the polls closed, as Morris suggests was the game plan with leftist stooge media crying fraud where there was none, and that plan went awry thank God!
What Morris suggests shows true disregard for the spirit of democracy and that is what i find most sinister and corrosive of our electoral process...
It was a thought out, intentional scheme. It should be prosecuted, and if that is not doable - WE MUST REMEMBER THIS TRICK next time!
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