Did you say Susan Estrich?
She's one of these... but I'm not sure which...
Posted on 11/04/2004 1:52:51 PM PST by NotchJohnson
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You know, the irony of all of this, ladies and gentlemen, if I may take you through this. We know that the media has been in the tank for Senator Kerry. He did not thank them in this speech, and I was sort of thinking he might. I really thought he might thank the media, Bush did the other day, thanked them for their coverage, thanked them for their hard work. If anybody should thank them it should be Kerry. They gave him 15 points with their non-scrutinizing coverage of him, their non-critical coverage of him. But think of the irony. That's a word journalists love, by the way, folks. Irony is the first word they learn to define at J school. And the irony here is delicious. Here you have the mainstream press in the dank for Kerry. The whole campaign they are doing everything they can to get him elected, everything to build him up and tear Bush down. Then the Election Day comes and the same media does the exit polls, and the same media comes out with so horribly inaccurate information in the exit polls that they convince everybody, themselves and Kerry and everybody in the campaign, that they've won the election at five o'clock in the afternoon, before one vote has been counted.
McAuliffe went on TV last night, eight o'clock, "This is one of the greatest nights of Democratic election history," blah, blah, blah, "We're going to win really big." Ted Kennedy was on CNN, Wolf Blitzer interviewed him last night, "Senator Kennedy, you been with the junior senator from your home state all these many, many months. How do you feel that he's done over the last, let's say, year or so?"
KENNEDY: Well, we're very proud of John Kerry. You know, sort of ripple around here tonight is that we have the Super Bowl champions with the New England Patriots, we have the World Series champions with the Red Sox, and now, above all, we've got John Kerry, hometown boy, that's won the presidency. We're very hopeful about it.
RUSH: Seven-thirty last night, Senator Kennedy said this, 7:30! Wolf Blitzer followed up and said, "Senator, let me point out, he hasn't won the presidency yet, still relatively early." And Kennedy says, "Well, you know, I think it's important that those who haven't voted go out and participate, but I think we're encouraged the kind of response that John Kerry's received." So the same media that built 'em all up, the same media that didn't criticize him, tore Bush down, in the tank, same media gave them their greatest disappointment in two years. The same media with what are either grossly inaccurate or incompetent or fraudulent exit poll results had every Democrat in the country thinking by five o'clock yesterday afternoon that Kerry was winning in a landslide. Today, Kerry concedes. What the press giveth, the press taketh away. We'll be back in a moment.
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Folks, you're going to have to forgive me for this. I'm sitting here, I'm reviewing in my mind the Edwards and Kerry concession speeches, and there's something that -- I mean they were both graceful and they were both full of emotion and so forth, and they were very nice. I'm not being critical of that. But there's something, it goes with my theme of the day and I can't ignore it, therefore. They keep acting like -- if you listen to Kerry carefully -- if we wanted to and parse this thing, you get the idea that he's talking to his people and they still run the show. They didn't win the election but they still run the show. They're acting like they speak for the people, but the people keep defeating them. They are losing elections. They haven't had the House since 1994. It's ten years now. They've had presidents. They've had so few presidents in the last 50 years from their party, they've lost the Senate. They've lost even more ground in the Senate. They've lost governorships, they've lost statehouses around the country. It's just incredible. They keep acting as though they speak for the people, the whole people of the country, and the people keep defeating them. I'm sorry to make that observation. Not sorry, I mean I don't want to be offensive about it, but it fits the theme of the program today, so I had to.
And I have to share this with you, too, folks before we go back to the phones. Heard this last night, and I've heard it on CNN and I've heard it on Fox. They're very defensive about these exit polls, as well they should be because these exit polls did them all in. They all had themselves convinced by five o'clock yesterday afternoon this was over and that it was a landslide. You should have seen these numbers, folks. I didn't put them on the air but I saw them and when I saw them that's when I started telling you yesterday to ignore what you're going to hear, ignore what you're going to see, no vote has been counted, and I even postulated yesterday, theorized that these things could be purposely gussied up, jimmied, configured in a fraudulent way to create panic on the right and within Republican circles out there. And it turns out some people are saying, "Look it, either the electorate has done a 180-degree shift when you look at these exit polls or there's something that's so fishy, no exit polling data has ever been this wrong, so totally wrong. It's almost to the point somebody did this on purpose."
But it ended up, you know, you live by the lie, you die by the lie because they've got themselves all built up over this and it was what led to their utter, crushed disappointment later on last night into today. Both on CNN last night and on Fox when this whole subject came up, what I heard, I'll synthesize it for you, both networks, and I'm sure all the networks have said this in their discussion of exit polls, "Hey, hey, hey, we didn't do it, we didn't do it, we didn't broadcast the numbers, Internet did it, Internet did it, Internet is responsible, Internet, blogosphere, blogosphere did it, talk radio did it, we didn't do it, we didn't!" I heard this and it sounded like Bart Simpson trying to tell old Homer, you know, that he didn't kill the cat. "Nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything. We didn't do it, we didn't do it, we didn't do it, we didn't put the number up."
Well, you didn't need to put the numbers up. I was watching Fox, I was watching CNN, I was watching PMSNBC, at five o'clock yesterday afternoon with their round of guests. Tad Devine, you know, Tad, Perhaps a Tad Too Devine, one of Kerry's spokespeople, the guy that's got that snarl on his face. I mean it's just, when he talks, there's a part of his right upper lip that kind of goes up there, looks like a snarl, that snarl. This guy was positively giddy yesterday afternoon. He couldn't contain himself. They were talking about a win and a big win. No, of course they didn't put any numbers out, but on CNN, same thing, Fox, Fox All-Star round table 6:30 last night, it was over. You know, now, they're part of the consortium, as were the other networks along with the Associated Press.
But they're trying to act like, you know, kids caught in the candy jar, we didn't do it, we didn't do it, we didn't put the numbers out there, we didn't report the numbers, we didn't report the numbers, we didn't put them on the air, we didn't do it, Internet, Internet did it. I love this, I love this. They're admitting that there are other more powerful institutions out there than them. But the fact of the matter -- and that's a healthy sign, by the way, when they're finally willing to admit this, only in the course of exonerating themselves from blame. But anybody who watched them yesterday, you know, if you saw them, you know full well that they created the impression based on what they knew with the exit polling data. So I had to get that off my chest.
My husband and I are going to the school tomorrow!
1- It was simply massive error, bad sampling, misinformation from voters, basically bad luck.
2- The exit polls were deliberately skewed in Kerry's favor to ignite the Dem base, scare the Pubs and make standing in the rain for Dubya seem pointless. More likely than #1.
3- This is the idea I'm leaning toward now. The Dems deliberately skewed the exit polls toward Kerry so that when Bush won, and the actual vote didn't match the exit polls, they could claim proof of their Diebold/black box voting conspiracy theory. So many on the left are screaming that the exit polls were right, so Bush must have cheated. They don't accept the idea that exit polls could be wrong. So therefore, that proves in their little minds that Bush has gone from selected President to hacker President, further deepening his illegitimacy.
Susan Estrich on Fox Tues. was very puffed up about exit polling, that it was all HER idea, and RATS had adopted it. 'Exit polls were 100 per cent accurate,' she all but shouted. Evidently this was her ticket back into RAT inner circles. She's been out in the cold since Dukakis and the tank and Willie Horton, and that long, long hesitation by Dukakis about what he'd do if some criminal raped and murdered his wife, Kitty. Susan's been marginalized all these years, and she wants back in. Well, when Brit suggested to her that the polling numbers looked peculiar, she was very indignant and took full credit. So we probably won't see her hanging around Hill anytime soon. Hehehehehe.
I was listening to Howie Carr this afternoon, and he said Even Thomas said Kerry's aides had to take his cellphone away from him because every time reporters asked how Kerry felt on this or that question, Kerry would call up fifty or one hundred pals to find out what they thought. Then he'd adopt the last opinion as his own, which is why all the flip flops. Unbelievable. That suit of his is really empty.
I used to watch the show regularly and McLaughlin was usually right-on in his opinions and seemed to know his stuff. Something strange happened with the guy.
I haven't watched McLaughlin in years, but the same sort of thing happened about 10 years ago when he got mad at Novak and booted him off the show.
Did you say Susan Estrich?
She's one of these... but I'm not sure which...
Y'all have to see mama's post #10!! Mama, I'm praying for something to be done to this anti-American teacher and praying for you and your family. This is utterly despicable.
In a similar vein....I just logged on and the AOL page had something like this: "Does the election give GWB a mandate?" WELL, DU-UH! It's staggering.
Do whatever it takes to provide homeschool or private school.
It is never too late to homeschool!
That being said, I would get the story to any of the local newspapers or TV stations. Right now I think the MSM is looking around in shock.
What a perfect way for them to show they are with the mainstream!
Get your daughter Ann Coulter's books, and rehearse liberal-baiting scenarios with her! Some of our older youth are in shape to confront the libs in their dens, and it may be that yours is one of them, if you give her the commission and the tools and the backup.
Liberals ... they're what's for dinner!
If McLaughlin doesn't settle down now that the election is over I going to stop watching. Might as well..McLaughlin has been giving Clift way too much squawking time.
You could punch her out?
I'll try to briefly relate a personal response to a similar situation.
My oldest daughter was probably a junior when this little dust up happened with her social studies(?) teacher. Her teacher and I via my daughter had several exchanges regarding society, culture and the like. Nothing really adversarial, basically exchanging ideas through my daughter who was taking ol' dad's side.
In an effort to put things in some perspective for my daughter regarding the millstone that the ever zealous beauracrats and liberal legislators place around our necks I used as an illustration , "It's not a good idea to f@rt in a crowded elevator, but a law banning such wouldn't be necessarily advisable or even useful." I had no intentions of her actually using the illustration in class discussion, but guess what? Yep.
So, my daughter comes home the very next day I believe, and tells me the kids in her class got a huge kick out of my example. (Wha??? I say to myself). Anyway, apparently it got the teacher's goat since I gather she was not a little embarrassed by the class response. So, she informs my daughter that kids didn't have to conform to or accept their parents' values. (Wha??? I say to myself again). This is nuts!
I had her teacher on the phone within 3 minutes max and informed her that I was on my way to the school to have a "visit" with her. It took me about another 5 minutes to get to the school. Good thing; it gave me time to cool off some.
After some discussion she agreed that a society and a culture survives by passing from generation to generation the best traditions and values of the preceding generation. Those values that have been tested over time and are shown to maintain, if not improve, that culture/society. That when a culture/society is presented with changes, they should be approached with extreme caution and skepticism.
This is getting longer than I had anticipated ;^)
But, I informed her she had no business telling my daughter or anyone else in her class they didn't have to accept their parents' values(they'll deal with it soon enough on their own without it being institutionalized). That as part of her job as teacher, she was intrusted with supporting the values of the community within which she taught. And, if she didn't accept this basic premise that I wanted hear it so I could share it with others. Including the principal, who was a good man and coincidentally, an acquaintance. AND if she didn't agree with this basic premise that I would also like to share it with the school board.
Well, she told me she had never had it explained to her in quite those terms(absolutely true I suspect), and that yeah, it made sense. She assured me she would be more careful in the future. Apparently so. My daughter never came home with anything afterward that dripped of indoctrination.
Sorry for the length, but it was as condensed as I could make it.
FGS
About 10 years ago the panel was Bob Novak, Eleanor Clift, Jack Germond, and Pat Buchanan with McLaughlin ?moderating?. That is where I first heard of Novak, but he got kicked off the show eventually.
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