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Michigan: The Mood (Pollwatcher accounts of vote fraud in Detroit)
National Review Online's Battlegrounders ^ | 11/4/04 | Henry Payne

Posted on 11/04/2004 11:58:22 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat

Republicans in Michigan are breathing a sigh of relief today - and not only because President Bush won a second term, despite narrowly losing Michigan.

In Detroit, mostly white Republican poll watchers dispatched to monitor mostly-black city vote counting encountered uncomfortable, racially charged situations. Poll watchers overseeing absentee vote-counting at Cobo Center, for example, reported widespread fraud in the counting of ballots. The incident raised the specter of a politically dicey GOP lawsuit, a move now less urgent given Bush's national victory.

"Craziest thing I've ever seen," said one poll watcher. "They had 100 tables and just five poll watchers trying to monitor them. Every table had a pile of empty ballots. If the machine rejected a ballot, the workers would just take a fresh ballot, fill it in the way they thought the voter wanted (Detroit voted heavily for Kerry), and then put THAT ballot through the machine." The poll watcher also reported unsigned ballots being counted in the machines, a violation of absentee procedures.

Alarmed by this open fraud, the party brought in more poll watchers only to be confronted, according to a Detroit Free Press account, by a Kerry campaign lawyer "who arrived and began yelling at the 20-30 GOP lawyers." Policemen were called to restore order to the proceedings after which the additional Republican poll watchers were all escorted off the premises.

The Cobo vote fraud was the most serious incident in an evening that included a judge ruling for Republicans when poll watchers were cast out of other polling places. Democratic voters, in turn, complained that "they felt intimidated by a stranger watching them and wanting to check identification" according the Free Press account. All in all, an unsettling evening here in Southeast Michigan.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: demvotefraud; detroit; dirtyrats; electioneering; kerry; napalminthemorning; partyofthehindparts; rats; routinedemfraud; systematicfraud; votefraud
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1 posted on 11/04/2004 11:58:22 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
We cannot allow the fraud to go unchallenged just because we won.

It is imperative for the sake of our country that this not be allowed to stand.

2 posted on 11/04/2004 11:59:58 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR POWERS EQUAL TO THE TASKS)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Yeah, it's funny how one has that intimidated feeling when someone else is watching them commit voter fraud.


3 posted on 11/04/2004 12:00:56 PM PST by reelfoot
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To: Diddle E. Squat
minus the fraud in Philly, Bush wins PA....

minus the fraud in Detroit, Bush wins Mi...

make no mistake, with real numbers this was a landslide.

4 posted on 11/04/2004 12:01:35 PM PST by kingattax
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE

ping


5 posted on 11/04/2004 12:02:19 PM PST by zip ((Remember: pingDimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of Americans))
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To: Diddle E. Squat
...complained that "they felt intimidated by a stranger watching them

Yeah, it's hell when you are on the wrong side of the law .. always wondering who's watching you.

6 posted on 11/04/2004 12:02:19 PM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: Diddle E. Squat
If the machine rejected a ballot, the workers would just take a fresh ballot, fill it in the way they thought the voter wanted (Detroit voted heavily for Kerry), and then put THAT ballot through the machine."

Quite nice of them to do that.

7 posted on 11/04/2004 12:02:50 PM PST by Fatalis (John Kyl in 2008)
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To: kingattax

minus the fraud in Milwaukee and Madison, Bush won Wisconsin


8 posted on 11/04/2004 12:02:54 PM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: Diddle E. Squat

This story could have been written in 2000. The exact same thing happened.


9 posted on 11/04/2004 12:04:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm happier than jim neighbors with a wheelbarrel full o buttholes.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Did anyone hear any follow up to the story of the freeper seeing the chartered buses taking the Kerry Edwards people from Manhatten to Philly? I'm very curious what was going on there.


10 posted on 11/04/2004 12:04:59 PM PST by wmomof4
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To: OldFriend

agreed: we need to get some indictments, convictions, and imprisonments this time around. this fraud crap must be squashed.


11 posted on 11/04/2004 12:05:35 PM PST by King Prout ("We've found more WMDs in Iraq than we've found disenfranchised blacks in Florida." - Ann Coulter)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I think our next assignment should be to see to it that our voting system is revamped - from documenting identification for voting, a nationwide system to ensure that you can only vote once, and identical touch-screen voting machines that can leave a paper trail but also can be counted instantaneously. We need to begin the fight against voter fraud now - we only have 4 years to get this fixed.
12 posted on 11/04/2004 12:06:05 PM PST by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Only the U.S. Attorneys' offices are in a political position to prosecute vote fraud. Hopefully Ashcroft will direct such offices to make it a priority before he resigns. That will remove the onus from the new AG.


13 posted on 11/04/2004 12:07:10 PM PST by bayourod (Specter's litmus test : "No Christian Judges")
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To: kingattax

Thank you. I say the same thing on every thread .


14 posted on 11/04/2004 12:07:10 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: OldFriend

Us Michiganders would LOVE them to dig into that mess in Detroit. I think it should be done.


15 posted on 11/04/2004 12:07:27 PM PST by Trainfish
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To: Diddle E. Squat

These people should be arrested and prosecuted.


16 posted on 11/04/2004 12:07:30 PM PST by Fledermaus (Kerry is, correction, WAS a Nuanced Nuisance!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I was a poll watcher here in Minnesota (the state we still have to fix) :) I was thankfully in a location that went smoothly. I was still called names by the voters, had 2 election judges who wouldn't speak to me, but I knew this was something I was doing for the party & the President. It was an experience! What a happy day!


17 posted on 11/04/2004 12:07:35 PM PST by electriclady
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To: Diddle E. Squat

bump


18 posted on 11/04/2004 12:08:24 PM PST by VOA
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Video covering the custody of each ballot from receipt to counting is the only way to go. Would I check off a box on my 1040 to pay for it? Yes.


19 posted on 11/04/2004 12:08:34 PM PST by Crawdad (Take a camera to the polls.)
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To: AgThorn

after the absentee military ballots are counted he still will.

he is only 11,000 votes behind and those absentees will run 70% for bush, more than enough. GW gets wisconsin.


20 posted on 11/04/2004 12:08:34 PM PST by kingattax
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