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A Blue City (Disconsolate, Even) Bewildered by a Red America
New York Times ^ | 11/04/2004 | JOSEPH BERGER

Posted on 11/04/2004 11:18:32 AM PST by JerseyRepub

The superior, condescending attitude just drips off the page. Even they admit it and they seem to be proud of it. And they wonder why they lost and no one gets them!

An excerpt from the article...

Dr. Joseph, a bearded, broad-shouldered man with silken gray hair, was sharing coffee and cigarettes with his fellow dog walker, Roberta Kimmel Cohn, at an outdoor table outside the hole-in-the-wall Breadsoul Cafe near Lincoln Center. The site was almost a cliché corner of cosmopolitan Manhattan, with a newsstand next door selling French and Italian newspapers and, a bit farther down, the Lincoln Plaza theater showing foreign movies.

"I'm saddened by what I feel is the obtuseness and shortsightedness of a good part of the country - the heartland," Dr. Joseph said. "This kind of redneck, shoot-from-the-hip mentality and a very concrete interpretation of religion is prevalent in Bush country - in the heartland."

"New Yorkers are more sophisticated and at a level of consciousness where we realize we have to think of globalization, of one mankind, that what's going to injure masses of people is not good for us," he said.

His friend, Ms. Cohn, a native of Wisconsin who deals in art, contended that New Yorkers were not as fooled by Mr. Bush's statements as other Americans might be. "New Yorkers are savvy," she said. "We have street smarts. Whereas people in the Midwest are more influenced by what their friends say."

"They're very 1950's," she said of Midwesterners. "When I go back there, I feel I'm in a time warp."

Dr. Joseph acknowledged that such attitudes could feed into the perception that New Yorkers are cultural elitists, but he didn't apologize for it.

"People who are more competitive and proficient at what they do tend to gravitate toward cities," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: JerseyRepub

"People who are more competitive and proficient at what they do tend to gravitate toward cities,"

So do people who are lazy, unmotivated and looking for a free ride on the government dime. A good case can be made that part of the decline of Rome was due to the unwashed masses flocking to and experiencing the joy of life in the "Big City".
I'll just stay out here in Hickland, thanks.


21 posted on 11/04/2004 11:28:34 AM PST by skimbell
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To: spetznaz

No you don't. When your adversary is down,
you do not toy w/ it or give it a chance to get
back at you. You steadily move in to deliver the
death blow.

Its hard to reason w/ a liberal. Even when you
are as educated as they. They simply view you as an
aberration.

MV


22 posted on 11/04/2004 11:28:44 AM PST by madvlad
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To: JerseyRepub
"What's different about New York City is it tends to bring people together and so we can't ignore each others' dreams and values and it creates a much more inclusive consciousness," she said. "When you're in a more isolated environment, you're more susceptible to some ideology that's imposed on you."

An entire city of people who overwhelmingly voted for Kerry, who can't think of anyone they know who voted for Bush...They are isolated. They don't debate issues with anyone or even encounter real people who hold views different from their own. Does she really think that the people of the heartland all live in isolation? How ignorant!

23 posted on 11/04/2004 11:29:57 AM PST by Mrs. Xtrmst (All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. --Edmund Burke)
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To: JerseyRepub
If you change the group from Republicans/Christians to blacks. The Dems would be screaming bloody murder about hate speech. Why am I not shocked.
24 posted on 11/04/2004 11:30:16 AM PST by MKM1960
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To: JerseyRepub
In downtown Brooklyn, J. J. Murphy, 34, a teacher, said that Mr. Kerry's loss underscored the geographic divide between the Northeast and the rest of the country.

How marvelous to be distilling themselves into the self-elected cultural elite of a country that doesn't agree with them.

In downtown Brooklyn, J. J. Murphy, 34, a teacher, said that Mr. Kerry's loss underscored the geographic divide between the Northeast and the rest of the country.

Bad news for Bonzo, but the Northwest lost 11 electorial votes to the South and Southwest after 2000, and Bush picked up 7 of them.

25 posted on 11/04/2004 11:30:19 AM PST by xJones
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To: JerseyRepub

These people are so....French.


26 posted on 11/04/2004 11:31:46 AM PST by cwb (Defeat after defeat, Democrats are still living in denial.)
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To: thoughtomator

Some of those New Yorkers are the dumbest people on the planet.


27 posted on 11/04/2004 11:32:01 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Mrs. Xtrmst

[An entire city of people who overwhelmingly voted for Kerry, who can't think of anyone they know
who voted for Bush...They are isolated. ]

Lefties are Bubble People. They are in shock that Bush won, cause they don't know ANYONE who voted for him!

Is there any better evidence that to be a leftie, you have to be a braindead idiot?


28 posted on 11/04/2004 11:32:54 AM PST by Simplemines
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To: JerseyRepub
NY shoulda been a red state. I have no time to listen to their whiny crap.


29 posted on 11/04/2004 11:33:17 AM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Islam is a religion of peace. Strange every murdering psychopath in the world is attracted to it.)
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To: spetznaz

Yep, the rats are still delusional....hope they don't get it and stay the same not changing the rat party...they'll never win another pres election and we'll stack the senate with Republicans...continue to control the house. Our conservative ideas...will continue to live in such a healthy way throughout America. ;o)


30 posted on 11/04/2004 11:34:14 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Sthitch
You're right about being able to spot them from a mile away in the metro DC area. I spend a lot of time commuting from rural Western Howard County, Maryland into the District. I can spot their cars from a mile away--they drive Volvos, hybrids, really small foreign cars and very, very old small foreign cars plastered with left-wing bumper sticker bilge. They often tend to drive really, really slowly. I love driving past them in my SUV adorned with two Bush stickers. There's nothing that makes them drive faster than to get away from those stickers. They're like showing a cross to a vampire!

What you said to them was absolutely perfect, because you know they wouldn't hesitate to say worse things to you if the situation were reversed--Pompous, self-righteous hyprocrites that they are!
31 posted on 11/04/2004 11:34:15 AM PST by piperpilot (Right is right!)
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To: JerseyRepub

Okay, let me see if I've got this straight (it may take awhile since I'm just a redneck). We know that people in New York are intellectually superior because they: a.)have foreign films b.) get assaulted on the street a lot c.) can easily buy Italian newspapers.

I guess it's the inbreeding but I just don't see that adds up to more intelligent decision making.


32 posted on 11/04/2004 11:34:19 AM PST by Gingersnap
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

"The Blue Fringe is so desperately ignorant and uninformed about The Grateful Red."
____________________________________________________________
Since we're in the majority now, Do you suppose we could switch colors? I have a problem with being called "red".


33 posted on 11/04/2004 11:35:17 AM PST by b-cubed (one Washingtonian that wants to move back to California. Hard to believe, huh?)
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To: JerseyRepub

This is pretty typical of the mindset in Manhattan. Self-righteous, patronizing...if your opinion doesn't march on the straight and narrow liberal fascist path, you're pretty much a social leper.


34 posted on 11/04/2004 11:35:20 AM PST by gatesbrown
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To: JerseyRepub

I live in a city where 75 percent of the population voted for Kerry. Most of the time it's a nuisance with its pro-tax, anti-business, liberal city hall agenda.

On Wednesday it was the greatest place in the world to be. I've been basking in democratic misery.


35 posted on 11/04/2004 11:35:32 AM PST by Hexenhammer (Always outnumbered, never outgunned.)
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To: diabolicNYC
Funny I was the only one on the street yesterday with a big smile on my face ...
It did seem that way, didn't it : )
36 posted on 11/04/2004 11:35:35 AM PST by eastsider
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Another perfect example of Edwards' Two Americas.


37 posted on 11/04/2004 11:36:29 AM PST by cwb (Defeat after defeat, Democrats are still living in denial.)
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To: JerseyRepub

I think Dr. Joseph must have inadvertantly said "mankind" instead of "humankind." "Mankind" is so unsophisticated, and regressive, and outdated, and ....


38 posted on 11/04/2004 11:36:32 AM PST by Aetius
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To: JerseyRepub
"They're very 1950's," she said of Midwesterners. "When I go back there, I feel I'm in a time warp."

She wants to talk about a time warp; liberals still believe in big government, in effect a benevolent monarchy, that will direct their lives from cradle to grave. Here in the USA we threw off the monarchy for freedom back in 1776 and we have moved on.

39 posted on 11/04/2004 11:37:08 AM PST by RJL
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To: JerseyRepub
People who are more competitive and proficient at what they do tend to gravitate toward cities

Pretentious people just wanna gather where engage in intellectual incest and masturbation.

40 posted on 11/04/2004 11:38:03 AM PST by Theophilus (Save Little Democrats, Stop Abortion)
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