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AND THE WINNER OF THE THIRD PARTY COMPETITION WAS ...
Neal Nuze ^ | 11/4/04 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/04/2004 8:54:19 AM PST by NotchJohnson

AND THE WINNER OF THE THIRD PARTY COMPETITION WAS ...

The Libertarian Party.

Throughout the election the media fed us information about Ralph Nader. Ralph this. Ralph that. You hardly knew that the Libertarians were in the race. The results now show that the Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian candidate, received more votes than Nader.

I wonder how the Libertarians would have done if their candidate was willing to protect America from Islamic terrorists?


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; badnarik; libertarian; president; thirdparty
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To: Capitalism2003
still, I think the GOP could use an extra 379,000 votes in 06'. It would be enough to push republicans over the edge in close states and give them a rock solid 60 vote majority. If Bush governs as a true conservative starting NOW by making serious spending reductions, it will happen.

Never happen. It is a false premis to believe that drug-loving LP'ers would ever turn out for Republicans. If we can't win a state by more than 0.3% margin without them, we are lost anyway.

61 posted on 11/04/2004 4:29:50 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: t_skoz
Don't forget that a lot of LP and CP members are really just mildly pissed-off uberconservatives.

Ticked off conservatives don't vote for legalized drugs, legalized abortion, same-sex marriage and open borders.

62 posted on 11/04/2004 4:30:59 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
"Ticked off conservatives..."

Correction...they call themselves "TRUE" conservatives. I'm sure Whoppie Goldberg thinks she's a slender beauty also.

63 posted on 11/04/2004 4:33:45 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: t_skoz
Gay marriage is not a libertarian issue. I am Christian, pro-life, and against gay marriage. In fact, I am against any government involvement in marriage whatsoever.

Drugs is not a libertarian issue. I am Christian, pro-life, and against drugs. In fact, I am against any government involvement in prohibiting drugs whatsoever.

Abortion is not a libertarian issue. I am Christian, pro-life, and against abortion. In fact, I am against any government involvement in prohibiting abortion whatsoever.

64 posted on 11/04/2004 4:34:35 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey

Well, mocking or not, you're right on one count. There is no authority for government to regulate drugs at the Federal level. That's something that should be left up to the states. I am opposed to Federal intervention.

As for abortion, one of the most enlightening discussions ever was one I had this summer with Sheriff Richard Mack (graduate of the FBI National Academy, patrol officer, undercover narcotics officer, hostage negotiator, youth officer, school resource officer, communications supervisor, corporal, front desk sergeant, detective, sheriff, Search and Rescue supervisor, jail administrator, and DARE instructor).

In addition to this, Richard Mack is a Mormon and a Libertarian. I asked him what Christian Libertarians can do about abortion besides pray, and try to change hearts and minds. He said that it was a tough decision. Yes, it is murder to abort a child. But what are you going to do about it? Are we going to throw 16 year old girls in State Prisons because they had an abortion? I'm not sure that is an appropriate action.

Abortion is terrible. I disagree with the "I'm pro-choice on everything" libertarians, without a doubt.

But as far as marriage and drugs go, the government, at least the Federal government, has no business, reason, or AUTHORITY to involve itself in these matters. Remember, we have a 9th and 10th Amendment. We should dust them off and use them!

Just because a person is Christian doesn't mean you should give the government authority that it does not have to regulate behaviors and activities which are merely immoral and not criminal.


65 posted on 11/04/2004 4:43:50 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: t_skoz
Just because a person is Christian doesn't mean you should give the government authority that it does not have

The state government has the authority.

to regulate behaviors and activities which are merely immoral and not criminal.

??? This doesn't make sense. Activities are not criminal until regulated by the government.

66 posted on 11/04/2004 6:09:12 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey

The State may have the authority, via the 9th and 10th Amendments. Personally, since it is a religious issue, it should be up to the churches. If some wacko churches want to have female priests, or to marry two homosexuals, go to town! But don't expect my private insurance company to give you health coverage! If someone else's private insurance firm will, that's great. More power to the Free Market.

A crime is an action that initiates fraud or force against a person or their property. It will always be a crime to murder me, or steal my money, regardless of whether there is a law against it or not.


67 posted on 11/04/2004 6:44:22 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: t_skoz
It will always be a crime to murder me, or steal my money, regardless of whether there is a law against it or not.

Sorry. Words do have meanings. It is not criminal unless it is LEGALLY prohibited.

68 posted on 11/04/2004 6:49:37 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: t_skoz
A crime is an action that initiates fraud or force against a person or their property AND is legally prohibited.
69 posted on 11/04/2004 6:50:37 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey

some definitions of the word "crime":

-A serious offense, especially one in violation of morality.

-An unjust, senseless, or disgraceful act or condition.


A crime does not always have to refer to an illegal act.


70 posted on 11/04/2004 6:51:14 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: CWOJackson; Cultural Jihad

Did you guys know that Jim Robinson has no problem with small-l libertarians and sees eye to eye with them on most issues?


71 posted on 11/05/2004 10:15:41 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813
Did you know you speak more for JR then he does.

Stop hiding behind JR...it looks silly.

72 posted on 11/05/2004 10:53:27 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Did you know you speak more for JR then he does.

Hey, the guy knows his $hit. Plus it's reassuring to know that I for the most part agree with the owner of the best site on the web rather than you moderate/liberals. Do you guys ever feel out of place here?

73 posted on 11/05/2004 11:02:06 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813

Out of place? No I speak for myself, I don't hide behind anyone else all the time.


74 posted on 11/05/2004 11:05:39 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Out of place? No I speak for myself, I don't hide behind anyone else all the time.

In all seriousness, I give some of you guys a lot of credit for going "against the grain" of most FReepers and posting controversial things. There are a few, unfortunately, who pretend to be something they are not.

75 posted on 11/05/2004 11:07:59 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813
"In all seriousness, I give some of you guys a lot of credit for going "against the grain" of most FReepers and posting controversial things."

LOL! If you haven't noticed, it's the LP'ers who are "against the grain".

76 posted on 11/05/2004 11:11:21 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
LOL! If you haven't noticed, it's the LP'ers who are "against the grain".

No doubt about that. But I was referring to you guys who have good foreign policy stances, but move a bit to the center on domestic issues. A lot of them lie about their domestic positions. You don't.

77 posted on 11/05/2004 11:16:17 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813
"But I was referring to you guys who have good foreign policy stances, but move a bit to the center on domestic issues."

You mean like the vast majority of America and those who voted for President Bush.

78 posted on 11/05/2004 11:19:22 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
You mean like the vast majority of America and those who voted for President Bush.

Exactly. The vast majority of Americans are not nearly as conservative as the typical FReeper.

79 posted on 11/06/2004 6:18:08 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813

LOL! The majority of LP'ers are not nearly as conservative as the typical American.


80 posted on 11/06/2004 10:29:16 AM PST by CWOJackson
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