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But so many politicians from both sides haven't cared how much we've emailed,faxed,phoned, the only one who listens is Tancredo and Dobbs!
My daughter in Rock Island County, Ill., her Rep. candidate for Congress had death threats at their office she volunteered at
Bump
Thanks JJ, THIS is the one I was referring to
~puke
hi guys! how's it going? just checkin' in.
~smiles
About as dead as Yasser Arafat.
About as dead as Yasser Arafat.
That means it ought to be perking up any minute! Oh... he really is dead this time, isn't he?
Yay.
Thanks Donna.
That was an interesting article.
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To All:
Standard answer to that unasked question:
"No, I am not with any group or organization.
I am a wife, mother, housewife. That's it." -Cindy
Yep.
Ok. Been moving furniture around today.
It must be a seasonal hormonal thing.
Every fall and spring, things have to
be changed.
How are you doing tonight, Knak?
I understand he's still dead.
The dead story is still competing
with Michael Jackson and Scott
Peterson, though.
Gotta cover the "news."
COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC...
A Thanksgiving CookingWithCarlo.com thread on FREEREPUBLIC.com
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1278039/posts
http://assistnews.net/Stories/s04110047.htm
ASSIST News Service (ANS) - PO Box 2126, Garden Grove, CA 92842-2126 USA
E-mail: danjuma1@aol.com, Web Site: www.assistnews.net
Thursday, November 11, 2004
ADVENTISTS IN TURKMENISTAN SEEK END TO SABBATH SCHOOLING THREATS
By Michael Ireland
Chief Correspondent, ASSIST News Service
ASHGABAD, TURKMENISTAN (ANS) -- Turkmenistan's Adventist leaders are convinced that threats to their official registration as a religious organization are a misunderstanding that can be overcome, says Felix Corley, Forum 18 News Service.
"We're worried by the threats to remove our registration connected with our members' desire for their children not to have to study in school on Saturdays, our Sabbath," Pastor Pavel Fedotov told Forum 18 News Service on 9 November.
"We hope for a good resolution to this issue and are looking forward to reaching an understanding with the government."
Pastor Pavel Fedotov told Forum 18 he believes the threats are a misunderstanding that can be overcome.
Protestant sources told Forum 18 that existing concerns were heightened when a leading Adventist in the capital Ashgabad, Olga Kholopova, was summoned by the National Security Ministry secret police on 8 November and threatened that if she continues to refuse to send her 12-year-old son Timur to school on Saturdays the church's registration will be removed. (Pictured: Map of Turkmenistan - Credit: maps.com).
"Kholopova was summoned by the ministry's 6th department, which deals with the struggle against terrorism," one Protestant told Forum 18.
"Although officers were polite, she was threatened with a criminal case, a fine and the denial of parental rights if she refuses to send her child to school on Saturdays. They also threatened to send her son to a special centre for delinquent adolescents supervised by the police -- and to strip the church of its legal status." The Protestant told Forum 18 that officers dismissed Kholopova's attempts to explain the importance to Adventists of observing the Sabbath.
"This is also a religious freedom issue for Timur, because he is himself a believer," one Protestant told Forum 18.
Protestant sources stressed to Forum 18 that Timur has had "excellent reports" in school and has not encountered problems with his study. They add that the secret police know that Adventists, a small minority in Turkmenistan, honor Saturday, their Sabbath, as a day of rest and worship.
The Protestant sources point out that although the Turkmen school week runs from Monday to Saturday, about half the school children in Ashgabad fail to turn up on Saturdays because they are helping their families at work in markets and elsewhere.
Forum 18 was unable to immediately reach any security ministry officials to find out why such threats have been made against Kholopova and against the church. Telephones also went unanswered at the government's Gengeshi (Council) for Religious Affairs in Ashgabad on 10 November.
Kholopova had already been summoned by her son's school, the local hyakimlik (administration) and her local police station in a bid to pressure her to submit. Protestant sources told Forum 18 on 10 November that she was again summoned to the local police that day, though the police told her they were surprised that they had been dragged into the issue which they said was not a police matter.
Given that unregistered religious activity in Turkmenistan is illegal, Adventists are highly concerned not only by the threats to Kholopova but the threat to remove registration from the church. On 1 June the Adventists became one of the few minority religious faiths to regain registration this year after a seven and a half year period when all their activity was treated as illegal. Their church in Ashgabad was bulldozed by the authorities in November 1999. Even now they have regained registration, they still cannot meet for worship as an entire congregation in Ashgabad (see F18News 4 October 2004 http://www.forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=424).
Adventist children have faced intermittent problems in school over their desire not to study on their day of rest. Despite their religious convictions, one Adventist family in Ashgabad was forced to bow to intense pressure in September not to keep their child away from school on Saturdays.
This autumn, Adventist leaders were warned that check-ups would be carried out in all Ashgabad schools on Saturdays to make sure all children -- including Adventists -- were present. Sources told Forum 18 that one such check-up was carried out in the capital's schools in October. The authorities also told the Adventists they would be looking through the church's membership list to help verify that all the members' children
attended school on Saturdays. Pastor Fedotov was warned that if children were not attending school on Saturdays his church's registration would be cancelled.
It is unknown if any observant Jews have encountered similar problems in Turkmenistan over compulsory schooling on Saturdays. Much of Turkmenistan's small Jewish community emigrated in the decade after independence and little communal Jewish activity appears to survive.
All Turkmenistan's religious public holidays are Muslim, the traditional faith of the majority of the population.
For more background, see Forum 18's Turkmenistan religious freedom survey at http://www.forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=296
A printer-friendly map of Turkmenistan is available at http://www.nationalgeographic.com/xpeditions/atlas/index.html?Parent=asia&Rootmap=turkme
You may reproduce or quote this article provided that credit is given to F18News http://www.forum18.org/
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** Michael Ireland is an international British freelance journalist. A former reporter with a London newspaper, Michael is the Chief Correspondent for ASSIST News Service of Garden Grove, CA. Michael immigrated to the United States in 1982 and became a US citizen in Sept., 1995. He is married with two children. Michael has also been a frequent contributor to UCB Europe, a British Christian radio station.
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http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/11385070p-12299448c.html
"Fire at W. Sac church was arson, officials say"
By Steve Gibson -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Thursday, November 11, 2004
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "WEST SACRAMENTO - A fire that damaged River City Apostolic Church and adjacent school Tuesday night was deliberately set and may be linked to other unsolved blazes in the city, according to West Sacramento Fire Department officials."
http://www.idahostatesman.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/NEWS01/40928019/1002&theme=ABDULLAH&template=theme
"Azad Abdullah Trial"
U.S- CERT Current Activity
http://www.us-cert.gov/current/current_activity.html
http://www.wtop.com/index.php?nid=104&sid=328828
"Derailment Spills 20,00 Gallons of Beer"
Updated: Thursday, Nov. 11, 2004 - 11:46 PM
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "CHILHOWIE, Va. (AP) - Fourteen cars of an 83-car Norfolk Southern train derailed near an industrial park, leaving the area smelling like a brewery Thursday.
About 20,000 gallons of beer leaked from three cars of the Roanoke-bound train, said railway spokesman Robin Chapman.
No one was injured when the cars skipped the tracks about 10:30 p.m. Wednesday, Chapman said."
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