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Is there any "hard information" available on outstanding "Provisional Ballots" in Ohio?

Posted on 11/02/2004 11:15:26 PM PST by StJacques

I would like to ask if there is anyone out there who may be able to identify a trusted, i.e. "documented," source of information as to just how many of the so-called "provisional ballots" have been cast by "challenged voters" in Ohio. I just watched one of the reporters at MSNBC estimate the total at over 200,000 by extrapolating the total number of challenges in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) to the rest of the state.

Does anyone know where we will be able to find hard information on this? Please post the resources if you have them.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: bush; challenge; election; kerry; ohio; provisionalballots; votefraud
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1 posted on 11/02/2004 11:15:26 PM PST by StJacques
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To: StJacques

Ken Blackwell, Secretary of State, said that there were aroudn 140-150,000.


2 posted on 11/02/2004 11:16:09 PM PST by Blogger
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To: StJacques

This morning in Franklin County, in a crowd of expectant voters of approx. 250 in number, I saw one lady using the provisional ballot device.


3 posted on 11/02/2004 11:16:55 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: StJacques

Exactly what I posted. they are just going of what a Skerry aid told them in an interview!


4 posted on 11/02/2004 11:16:57 PM PST by BookaT (My Cat's Breath smells like Cat Food!)
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To: StJacques

Ohio's Sec of State was on Fox a little while ago. He said there are about 120,000 provisional ballots, not 200,000 like CNN and the Kerry campaign are claiming.


5 posted on 11/02/2004 11:17:33 PM PST by Russ
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To: BookaT

Kerry can't make up 128,000 votes with 150k prov ballots. Most of those ballots will not be valid anyway. Checkmate Kerry. Be a man for once and concede.


6 posted on 11/02/2004 11:19:30 PM PST by txjeep
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To: StJacques
Provisional ballots are crap. They aren't going to account for more than 5% of 200,000 votes (even if that many exist). Provisional ballots aren't absentee ballots. Provisional ballots are from people in the wrong precinct (won't count), wrong county (won't count), not registered (won't count).
7 posted on 11/02/2004 11:20:59 PM PST by FredZarguna (Wearing BLACK Pajamas, in honor of Hanoi John)
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To: Russ

Just saw my next governor (wishful thinking alert!) and he says he isn't sure how many of these ballots there are but they are "trending" toward 175,000. He said about ten percent of the ones in 2000 were no good and he basically expects the same thing, or something like that.


8 posted on 11/02/2004 11:21:27 PM PST by Sister_T (Democrats AND The Partisan Press are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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To: txjeep
"Kerry can't make up 128,000 votes with 150k prov ballots. Most of those ballots will not be valid anyway. Checkmate Kerry. Be a man for once and concede."

How can we determine how many of the provisional ballots will be counted? I don't doubt your point about their "legitimacy" or lack of it, but I'm from Louisiana and I've watched the Democrats make up election law as they go along for years. I'm sure they have their "best" (forgive my use of this term) lawyers involved.
9 posted on 11/02/2004 11:22:55 PM PST by StJacques
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To: StJacques

I do know that there were several examples of republican voters that had voted in previous races that were mysteriously taken off the rolls. One lady had been changed to deceased she learned when she tried to vote. I think someone took some of our voters off the rolls and they were allowed to use provisional ballots. I don't think there is any way Kerry can assume he would get most of those votes and I pray for the country's sake he concedes gracefully.


10 posted on 11/02/2004 11:23:47 PM PST by Reb Raider
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". . . He said about ten percent of the ones in 2000 were no good and he basically expects the same thing, or something like that. . ."

Well if that's true then we have something to worry about.
11 posted on 11/02/2004 11:26:24 PM PST by StJacques
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To: Reb Raider

http://election.sos.state.oh.us/Results/RaceSummary.aspx

Link - upper left corner "provisional ballots by county"


12 posted on 11/02/2004 11:27:20 PM PST by rek
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Russ,
don't forget that those provisional ballots have to be verified as legitimate before even being counted. also, there was a huge influx of evangelicals in those provisionals


13 posted on 11/02/2004 11:27:44 PM PST by DoozerDude (I actually voted for the 87 billion, before I voted against it)
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To: Russ
Ohio's Sec of State was on Fox a little while ago. He said there are about 120,000 provisional ballots, not 200,000 like CNN and the Kerry campaign are claiming

I thought he said 130,000, but with Bush ahead by 125,000,no sane candidate would require that they be counted -- which means of course that Kerry and his overpaid minions will do so.

14 posted on 11/02/2004 11:29:56 PM PST by ravinson
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To: txjeep
Most of those ballots will not be valid anyway.

Actually Blackwell said that 90% of the provisional ballots were approved their last election. Don't count on disqualifying all of them. It would be best if they were fewer than the Bush margin to render the point moot. Don't give the Rat's waiting time to gin up a new gameplan.

15 posted on 11/02/2004 11:39:04 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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To: rek
Thank you rek, that is exactly what I wanted.

For everyone else coming here who may want to count the "provisional ballots" I am going to repost the link to the page rek provided. You can "pop up" the page without leaving this one:

Provisional Ballot Count By County in Ohio
16 posted on 11/02/2004 11:40:08 PM PST by StJacques
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To: StJacques


Even if there are 200k provisional ballots from all over the state, there's *no way* Kerry's going to net himself 125k votes. He's lost. It's over!


17 posted on 11/02/2004 11:40:47 PM PST by Timm
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To: Timm

Have they counted absentee ballots?


18 posted on 11/02/2004 11:46:25 PM PST by MohawkDrums
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To: MohawkDrums

Bush has more votes in Provisional Ballots than Kerry probably. Sec of state was saying it would at best case scenario break the way the election did for Bush. Worse case and likely case is Bush wins Prov ballots outright.


19 posted on 11/02/2004 11:49:23 PM PST by GodBlesBush
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Anybody know the process in validating the prov ballots?
ie do they verify address, that the person actually lives there, do they have to show proof with license or some other id, and more importantly, do they check to see if they have voted elsewhere?


20 posted on 11/02/2004 11:55:16 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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