Posted on 11/01/2004 2:27:45 PM PST by treeclimber
A former secretary of the Navy is urging Sen. John Kerry to open up his personnel files to resolve the question of whether the Democratic presidential nominee received a less-than-honorable discharge from the Navy.
William Middendorf, the Navy chief from 1974 to 1977, told WorldNetDaily today that Kerry, who began inactive reserve status in 1972, would have been issued a document three years later either for a reserve reaffiliation or a separation discharge.
An "honorable discharge" from 1978 appears on the Kerry campaign's website, but a Navy lawyer who served under Middendorf believes that document is a substitute for one that would have been issued in 1975.
However, no such document can be found among the records Kerry has made available.
"I should think it would be in his interest to open up the files, to clear up any misunderstanding," said Middendorf, who later served as ambassador to the Netherlands, European Union and Organization of American States.
Middendorf said he cannot comment specifically on any action taken on Kerry, because he is barred, under the 1974 privacy act, from discussing personnel matters.
However, he enthusiastically vouches for the character of Mark Sullivan, who formed the basis for a story today in the New York Sun by Thomas Lipscomb, the first to report discrepancies in Kerry's discharge record.
Sullivan, who served in the secretary of the Navy's office in the Judge Advocate General Corps Reserve between 1975 and 1977, says the "honorable discharge" on the Kerry website appears to be a Carter administration substitute for an original action expunged from Kerry's record, Lipscomb reported.
Asked by WorldNetDaily to address Sullivan's findings, Middendorf cited the privacy act.
"I shouldn't comment other than to say I respect Mark Sullivan as one of the finest Navy officers we had."
The Kerry campaign has insisted that all of the senator's Navy records have been released, with the exception of medical papers, but the Washington Post and others have reported at least 100 pages are still under wraps. Kerry would have to file a Standard Form 180 to grant permission for full release of his records.
If Kerry received something other than an honorable discharge, it likely was related to his anti-war activities while a member of the Navy reserve, says Jerome Corsi, a specialist on the anti-war movement and co-author of best-seller "Unfit for Command."
"We've been arguing that Kerry's cooperation with the enemy throughout the Vietnam War was widely known by the intelligence community," Corsi told WND.
Corsi believes this is the reason the discharge is not on the campaign website.
"If he didn't have reason to hide anything, he would have released it," Corsi said.
Either way it needs to remain an issue.
THE story that
ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
DON'T WANT AMERICA TO KNOW!
John Kerry's Discharge
He won't sign Form 180
What is he hiding?
Ex-Navy sec to Kerry: Open up your records
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41230
NY Sun 11/01/04
Kerry's Discharge Is Questioned by An Ex-JAG Officer
http://www.nysun.com/article/4040
"There is overwhelming evidence that the Navy gave John Kerry either a dishonorable discharge
or an undesirable discharge – which is the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge
without the felony conviction – and that, as a result of such discharge,
he was stripped of all of his famous but questionable Navy awards and medals.
And the kicker? The evidence is on his website!"
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41200
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Kerry's Dishonorable Discharge
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Editorial Comments about Kerry's Discharge
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Kerry Military Discharge Deception, look at the online documentation!
http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/discharge2.htm
Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge
http://www.nysun.com/article/3107
The original article, posted 9/24/04
http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/discharge.htm
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Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick
He's done a lot of 180's.....He's just never signed one!
LOL
I think we know what kind of scum he is even without his records. If we just look at his senate record, that is enough to convince any rational American of his lack of fitness.
Problem his his supporters are not rational.
I think we know what kind of scum he is even without his records. If we just look at his senate record, that is enough to convince any rational American of his lack of fitness.
Problem is his supporters are not rational.
It WILL be!
Moving the story forward...
bump
Won't happen. The MSM won't even ask for them.
ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
Traitors to the American public!
I'm almost thinking that there ARE no records to open. He probably had them destroyed early on.
You can bet on it.
Not at all. This is high stakes poker, and you keep the hole card until the last hand is played.
Lets start the impeachment drive right now!!!
Yep!
He'll care if Kerry wins and he can use it against him in '08. That's what he's saving his criticism for.
Anybody catch McCain on 60 Minutes last night, slamming the Bush tax cut (that HE voted for)? The guy's as transparent as siran wrap.
McCain wants the White House... he doesn't care what he has to do to get it. He's eye-balling '08 every bit as much as Hillary is.
FYI Ping
Since Kerry had to petition to have his OTH upgraded to an Honorable Discharge, would there be any paperwork that would be available under the FOI that shows this?
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