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NRO: Kerry Team Losing Hope In Ohio?
NRO: The Kerry Spot ^ | November 1, 2004 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 11/01/2004 11:27:37 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

KERRY TEAM LOSING HOPE IN OHIO?

Over in the Corner, Rich notices this item in the Note:

The three [Wall Street Journal’s Rogers, Hitt, and Harwood] also write that “Bush advisers noted late movement toward the Republican ticket in Ohio; one senior Kerry adviser, after days in which the campaign had been especially bullish on the state, predicted Florida’s 27 electoral votes might be easier to grab than Ohio’s 20.”

But they get Rep. Rob Portman to admit that "We are allowing Sen. Kerry to paint us into a corner I'm afraid people are believing" Kerry's attacks on the President over outsourcing. There are Bush advisers more bullish on Ohio than Florida (and vice versa) and Kerry advisers more bullish on Ohio than Florida (and vice versa).

Ready for real irony? I talked a little while back with a good friend working on a key Democratic Senate campaign. This friend made comments similar to Portman, but from the Democratic perspective about that state’s race - “we’re being painted into a corner, we’re on defense, we’re talking about the issues the GOP wants us to, gay marriage, abortion, etc.”

[Posted 11/01 02:17 PM]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: bushlandslide; bushvictory; kerry
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1 posted on 11/01/2004 11:27:39 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: dubyaismypresident

Woo-Hoo, this looks promising, dubs!


2 posted on 11/01/2004 11:29:58 AM PST by secret garden (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Enjoyable read. Hope it's true.


3 posted on 11/01/2004 11:34:10 AM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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To: West Coast Conservative
It's almost impossible to tell exactly what is going through the minds of these two campaign teams. Back in 2000, Bush surprised Gore by winning states (West Virginia, Tennessee, New Hampshire, etc.) that Gore didn't do a very good job of contesting. At the same time, Gore devoted a lot of time and resources in a couple of "swing" states that he ended up losing -- Florida and Ohio in particular.

My prediction is that Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota are going to be the 2004 versions of West Virginia and Tennessee.

4 posted on 11/01/2004 11:34:59 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Ohio is NOT a swing state. It has a Republican governor, (2) Republican Senators and a Republican majority in the State Legislature. It's like stating the California or Illinois are "swing states." This notion was totally created by the media in hopes of putting Ohio in Kerry's column. It will not happy.


5 posted on 11/01/2004 11:35:49 AM PST by GianniV
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To: West Coast Conservative

Last week we heard that Kerry was giving up on Florida.


6 posted on 11/01/2004 11:38:13 AM PST by KJacob (I seem to have lost my tagline.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Based on recent postings, both camps are losing hope. I therefore expect that both Bush and Kerry are going to lose tomorrow. ;)


7 posted on 11/01/2004 11:39:02 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: West Coast Conservative; Kenny Bunk
We are allowing Sen. Kerry to paint us into a corner I'm afraid people are believing" Kerry's attacks on the President over outsourcing.

Kerry pounds on this day after day after week after month.

The "Genius" Rove has no response day after day after week after month.

Stay the Course!

8 posted on 11/01/2004 11:40:23 AM PST by Shermy (Stay the course! It worked in 1992, didn't it???)
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To: Alberta's Child
It's almost impossible to tell exactly what is going through the minds of these two campaign teams. Back in 2000, Bush surprised Gore by winning states (West Virginia, Tennessee, New Hampshire, etc.) that Gore didn't do a very good job of contesting. At the same time, Gore devoted a lot of time and resources in a couple of "swing" states that he ended up losing -- Florida and Ohio in particular. My prediction is that Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota are going to be the 2004 versions of West Virginia and Tennessee.

Gore did not put much effort into Ohio, which is why Ohio overperformed the national popular vote by 3.5% instead of just its normal 2%. New Hampshire wasn't a surprise, as it is a Republican state, but Arkansas, Tennessee and West Virginia are states Gore should have fought harder for in retrospect. Bush could have taken Iowa with just a bit more effort, and possibly Wisconsin. Rove says not fighting for Minnesota in 2000 was a mistake, one which they weren't going to repeat this time.

9 posted on 11/01/2004 11:40:57 AM PST by TomEwall
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To: secret garden
Woo-Hoo, this looks promising, dubs!

It should be promising. The GOTV program is awesome. Funnything about doing GOTV inside the city limits of Cleveland you run into the people doing the Kerry GOTV -- the UAW and ACT. And their lists stunk, they had no idea which were their supporters, they went to all the houses.

I bet it burned them seeing us in the their Democrat stronghold.

10 posted on 11/01/2004 11:50:15 AM PST by NeoCaveman (There's nothing like Buckeye football, said John Kerry in Michigan)
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To: TomEwall
Bush could have taken Iowa with just a bit more effort, and possibly Wisconsin.

Bush could have taken Iowa, Wisconsin, New Mexico, maybe even Oregon, IF ALL THE NETWORKS HADN'T CALLED FLORIDA FOR GORE, AND THEY LET IT STAND UNTIL ALL THE REAL POLLS WERE CLOSED. Surely this disillusioned many Bush voters nationwide, and quite likely cost him the popular vote win.

This is detailed in Celsius 41.11 which I saw last week.

11 posted on 11/01/2004 11:50:45 AM PST by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Alberta's Child
Tennessee was never in play in 2000. Everyone assumed that states pride would set in and Gore would win his "Home" state. The people are not stupid. Al Gore had betrayed us several years before. I voted for him twice because, he portrayed himself as pro-life, pro- second amendment, and a devout Christian. Boy were we fooled, but not in 2000.
12 posted on 11/01/2004 11:50:49 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: secret garden
Woo-Hoo, this looks promising, dubs!

It should be promising. The GOTV program is awesome. Funnything about doing GOTV inside the city limits of Cleveland you run into the people doing the Kerry GOTV -- the UAW and ACT. And their lists stunk, they had no idea which were their supporters, they went to all the houses.

I bet it burned them seeing us in the their Democrat stronghold.

13 posted on 11/01/2004 11:52:04 AM PST by NeoCaveman (There's nothing like Buckeye football, said John Kerry in Michigan)
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To: dubyaismypresident

I like the sound of this. Hopefully this signals good things to come on election night.


14 posted on 11/01/2004 11:54:34 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: dubyaismypresident

I like the sound of this. Hopefully this signals good things to come on election night.


15 posted on 11/01/2004 11:54:43 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: dubyaismypresident

I like the sound of this. Hopefully this signals good things to come on election night.


16 posted on 11/01/2004 11:54:53 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: blitzgig

Mistake: Too many posts of the same message.


17 posted on 11/01/2004 11:56:39 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: blitzgig

Not your fault, the server was hiccupping.


18 posted on 11/01/2004 12:05:57 PM PST by NeoCaveman (There's nothing like Buckeye football, said John Kerry in Michigan)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Based on recent postings, both camps are losing hope. I therefore expect that both Bush and Kerry are going to lose tomorrow. ;)

In the event of such an occurrence, then: if duly appointed to the office of the presidency, afterwards, by a majority of the United States Senate: I will serve, proudly, as your Commander-In-Chief. :)

19 posted on 11/01/2004 12:07:32 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: mariabush

Tennessee was much more "in play" than most people realize. I read a fascinating article about the 2000 election in which the author made the point that Tennessee would have been in the Gore column were it not for early voting. Labor unions apparently made a strong late push there in 2000 for Gore, but so many of their members had already voted for Bush by that time.


20 posted on 11/01/2004 12:30:31 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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