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KERRY'S WEBSITE REVEALS LESS THAN HONORABLE DISCHARGE
GULF1.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 1, 2004 | COLONEL BOB PAPPAS, USMC (Ret)

Posted on 10/31/2004 9:03:47 PM PST by CHARLITE

While this writer was in the research process regarding allegations that Kerry had received a less than honorable discharge from the Navy, which was later changed, others were similarly engaged. Consequently, there are emerging simultaneously a number of allegations to that effect on the Internet; and the writer finds them to be generally true.

Although the records Kerry has posted on his official site do not show an earlier discharge; and, incidentally, Kerry has finally admitted that he has not posted all of his records despite earlier claims that all were posted. Kerry publicly admitted during an interview with Tom Brokaw on October 28th, that all of his records are not public.

“Brokaw: Someone has analyzed the President's military aptitude tests and yours, and concluded that he has a higher IQ than you do.

Kerry: That's great. More power. I don't know how they've done it, because my record is not public. So I don't know where you're getting that from.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6354942/

Calling all liberals! If you can’t get it right even after Kerry has admitted that he has lied about his military record, you deserve what you get if it ends up being Kerry; which, fortunately for America, it won’t be. Since he has certifiably lied about that, you could expect no less should he be elected; which the American people will not do.

The allegation that he initially had a less than honorable discharge is based on the fact that the discharge document was signed by Secretary of the Navy Graham Claytor, dated February 18th, 1978, six years after the end of his obligated service. It shows that Kerry was discharged under the provisions of Title 10, USC 1162 that applies to those who are being discharged to become a “minister of religion” or “to become a regular;” and, 1163 applies to those whose discharges were awarded incident to miscreant behavior, such as AWOL, courts martial punishment, and etc..

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf

Kerry did not become a “regular” Navy officer, and certainly did not become a “minister of religion.”

Therefore, he must have initially been awarded a less than honorable discharge, such as: General, Other than Honorable, or Dishonorable and appealed that characterization, likely backed by Teddy Kennedy and/or others with political interest and influence. Absent release of his entire record, it is impossible to verify how he “worked his bolt” and who his supporters in that endeavor were. But given the fact that Americans of the “liberal persuasion” are being duped as to the actual quality of their candidate, it should be of great importance to them. This is especially true since Kerry has gone to great lengths to run on his “heroic” military record.

Not only do the Democrats have a Candidate who arguably committed treason by giving aid and comfort to the enemy in violation of Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution, it is more than less likely that he received a “less than honorable” discharge from the Navy as well.

There are two excellent pieces that the writer has taken the time to verify and which explain in detail the salient issues.

First, “The President who committed treason,” by Raymond Kraft, dated October 29th, 2004.

http://chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=10716

Second, “Kerry’s non-honorable discharge,” by Earl Lively, dated October 31st, 2004.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41200

Americans sometimes do some strange things, but electing a person to be President who was given a less than honorable discharge from the armed forces, would make America the laughingstock of the world. Muslim fundamentalists would jeer and be emboldened in their efforts while all others would snicker; and they would be right.

President Bush may not be perfect, but his heart is as pure as the driven snow, his vision is keen, his leadership is strong, his management is succeeding and America is safer today than it was at any time during his predecessor’s eight years of “we are going to chase them down and bring them to justice” and the attacks of September 11th.

He has lead the country out of the “Clinton recession” made worse by the attacks of September 11th.. Even CBS is reporting that Chicago area businesses are at a 17 year high. There are more car sales than at any time in history, more Americans own their own homes today, and there are more people working that at any time in history even without the inclusion of millions of uncounted illegal immigrants. Despite the left’s nay-saying, things are getting better every day!

Vote for President Bush! He’s the right man, in the right place at the right time. Colonel Bob Pappas, USMC (Ret)

Semper Fidelis Comment: cheetah@gulf1.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brokaw; conditions; discharge; elections; interview; johnkerry; kerry; kerrydischarge; kerrywebsite; nbc; presidential; title10usc1162; usnavy

1 posted on 10/31/2004 9:03:49 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

THE story that
ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
DON'T WANT AMERICA TO KNOW!

John Kerry's Discharge
He won't sign Form 180
What is he hiding?

"There is overwhelming evidence that the Navy gave John Kerry either a dishonorable discharge
or an undesirable discharge – which is the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge
without the felony conviction – and that, as a result of such discharge,
he was stripped of all of his famous but questionable Navy awards and medals.

And the kicker? The evidence is on his website!"

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41200

BUT
ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
made sure you knew about the "Bush" documents.

Q) Why did
ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
NOT ask Kerry about why he wouldn't sign Form 180?

A) Because they are AFRAID of the REAL story!

Don't let ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, NBC
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like they did Gore in FL

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Spread the word on the internet!

Post on internet boards AND e-mails!

Kerry's October Surprise (Missippi Press)

http://www.gulflive.com/opinion/mississippipress/index.ssf?/base/opinion/109904493874180.xml

THE Next Smoking Gun - the "proof"

http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/proof.htm

Kerry's Military Discharge. What's Kerry Hiding?

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/blog-buzzcut.php?range=10/24/2004+-+10/30/2004

Kerry's Dishonorable Discharge

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/markalexander/ma20041023.shtml

Editorial Comments about Kerry's Discharge

http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/dischargeeditorials.htm

Kerry Military Discharge Deception, look at the online documentation!

http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/discharge2.htm

Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge

http://www.nysun.com/article/3107

The original article, posted 9/24/04

http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/discharge.htm

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The Children of Viet Nam Veterans Video (Not an easy one to watch)

Please remember the 58,000 + Names on the Wall on Nov 2

Please watch this video

Thank You

http://kerrylied.com/otherdocs/flash.htm

Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick


2 posted on 10/31/2004 9:07:59 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: CHARLITE

His mother must be rolling in her grave saying, "Integrity, integrity, integrity."


3 posted on 10/31/2004 9:09:18 PM PST by Ruth A.
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To: CHARLITE
You 'less than honorable' discharge guys may as well pack it in. Anything short of Skerry coming on TV tomorrow and announcing to the world it's true won't make a difference, it's just too late. Even if Skerry in fact did that I doubt CBS or NYT would report it. They should have persued that over the Summer.

Rather than chasing rumors they should focus on GOTV, that's where the real impact is now....THE CAMPAIGN IS OVER!!!

4 posted on 10/31/2004 9:09:38 PM PST by KoRn
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To: CHARLITE

Kerry is a charlatan, a reprobate, a traitor, a liar, a phony, and a blatant Marxist, and the military hates him, as they should.

He should not even be in this election, let alone in the Senate....


5 posted on 10/31/2004 9:16:21 PM PST by EagleUSA (W)
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To: CHARLITE
At this point, this is worthless. It's too late to get it to enough people even if Big Media didn't stone-wall. Two weeks ago was when this should have been hammered home.

However ... if Kerry manages to steal the election, I can seriously see impeachment proceedings based on Section 3 of the 14th Ammendment beginning on November 3.

6 posted on 10/31/2004 9:17:59 PM PST by pillbox_girl
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To: KoRn

"You 'less than honorable' discharge guys may as well pack it in."

We are just "war criminals"

We are just waiting for Johnny to come marching home.

AND he will.

The 58,000 Names on the Wall are calling him.


7 posted on 10/31/2004 9:19:52 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Nov 2 : Remember the 58,000 + Names on the Wall)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

geez. I wonder if Kerry used his GI Bill to attend Boston College Law School (1973-1976), with his Honorable Discharge.


8 posted on 10/31/2004 9:22:36 PM PST by V4bush
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To: pillbox_girl

**However ... if Kerry manages to steal the election, I can seriously see impeachment proceedings based on Section 3 of the 14th Ammendment beginning on November 3.**

I'll bump that!


9 posted on 10/31/2004 9:22:55 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: V4bush

Good point!


10 posted on 10/31/2004 9:23:16 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Nov 2 : Remember the 58,000 + Names on the Wall)
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To: KoRn

True many minds are made up.Unfortunately many discern through lens other than what is clear and now we must address responsibility.Those who know and an inkling of the effect they have must reflect at their hand at placing the entire Country at risk by turning-over and emasculating the entire networks and mililitary and all ground covered to one proven to extract failure from heroism.


11 posted on 10/31/2004 9:23:56 PM PST by noodler
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
I understand your rage toward Skerry. As far as the military is concerned he's worse than Clinton was. Clinton was just a run of the mill, straight up draft dodger. Kerry was/is a TRAITOR to the troops.

However, as far as defeating him goes it's time to focus on voting, GOTV is the most effective way you can get at him now, and pay him back!

12 posted on 10/31/2004 9:29:04 PM PST by KoRn
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To: KoRn
I've been focused on reelecting AND getting votes for President Bush since May
13 posted on 10/31/2004 9:34:34 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Nov 2 : Remember the 58,000 + Names on the Wall)
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To: Salvation
>> impeachment proceedings

That's going to a lot of trouble just to make John Edwards president.

14 posted on 10/31/2004 9:35:30 PM PST by Graymatter (Reload Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: pillbox_girl
>>impeachment proceedings

I guess now we know why he picked Edwards for vp. Insurance.

15 posted on 10/31/2004 9:36:43 PM PST by Graymatter (Reload Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: Salvation

Katie Couric's reaction to (possible) Kerry impeachment: "What, John's been impeached? And I didn't even give him a cigar yet!"


16 posted on 10/31/2004 9:44:56 PM PST by CitizenM
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Yes, stay on this especially if he loses.

He's used his veteran status in every campaign to bludgeon his opponents,if this comes out,we can get that rat out of the Senate.


17 posted on 10/31/2004 10:05:20 PM PST by Redcoat LI ("I am the great and powerful Kerry! Look at my medals!")
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