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Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage
E-mail from Priests for Life | 10/31/2004 8:37:02 AM

Posted on 10/31/2004 5:53:56 AM PST by Diago

Subj: Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage

Date: 10/31/2004 8:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From: "Fr. Peter West"

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Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage

Associated Press

BOSTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry scolded the Vatican Friday for saying Catholic politicians like himself have a "moral duty" to oppose laws granting legal rights to gay couples.

"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," said the Massachusetts senator. "But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."

The Vatican had urged Catholics and non-Catholics Thursday to unite in campaigning against gay marriages and gay adoptions. The 12-page document, issued by the church, presents a battle plan for politicians confronted with legislation legalizing same-sex unions and rails against gay adoption.

The document calls on Catholic politicians to vote against laws granting legal recognition to homosexual unions and to work to repeal those already on the books.

"To vote in favor of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral," it said, although it didn't specify penalties for Catholics who do.

Kerry opposes gay marriage, saying it is a right reserved in America for men and women, but he has said gay couples should have the same legal rights as husbands and wives.

When it returns from its August recess, the Senate will begin hearings to determine whether new laws are necessary to strengthen the federal definition of marriage as a man and a woman, a Republican senator said Friday.

In 1996, President Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, which denied federal recognition of same-sex marriages and allowed states to ignore same-sex unions licensed elsewhere.

President Bush said at a White House news conference Wednesday that he believes "a marriage is between a man and a woman, and I think we ought to codify that one way or the other."

Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said the next day that the White House was studying possible responses if pending lawsuits in Massachusetts and New Jersey result in legalization of gay marriage.

Some Republicans in Congress also are pushing for a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriages.


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Comment #61 Removed by Moderator

To: milford421

He simply cannot be taking his religion seriously. He is torn. He was brought up Catholic, then made public the fact that he was Jewish. His whole life is schitzophrenic.


62 posted on 10/31/2004 7:47:06 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: milford421

Christ would then say to sKerry: "Depart from me into the lake of fire. I never knew you, you evildoer."

And that would be the last word. You would hear the screams of Kerry as he is tossed alive into a fiery furnace to be tormented forever.


63 posted on 10/31/2004 7:52:16 AM PST by DarthVader (Defeating John Kerry is just as important as destroying Al-Qaeda!!!!)
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To: milford421

I think Kerry thinks he is Christ. Remember how DemocRATS criticized Bush for his references to God? As RUSH says DemocRATS always criticize the things they themselves do or believe.


64 posted on 10/31/2004 8:08:17 AM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde (be wary of slick John Kerry))
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To: Diago
Because Bush and those running the GOP are lukewarm conservatives. As result, if Bush loses, failing to capitalize on the support for traditional marriage may be his undoing.

It's just more evidence that getting Republican elected isn't good enough. Liberal Republicans must be shunned and enough conservatives need to step up and constantly apply pressure on Bush and those running the GOP.

The biggest issue if Bush gets reelected will be the issue of judges. If he doesn't have to run for reelection, it will be interesting to see if the judges are as conservative as they have been. There can be no more David Souters nominated .

65 posted on 10/31/2004 8:11:48 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: dixiechick2

I received it as an e-mail. Google a couple of key phrases to see if there is a link available.


66 posted on 10/31/2004 8:23:53 AM PST by Diago
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To: Diago

Kerry is the anti-Catholic


67 posted on 10/31/2004 8:24:43 AM PST by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: Diago
God Scolds Kerry Over Being a Sinner---and Rejecting Jesus Christ.
68 posted on 10/31/2004 9:22:32 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: milford421

arrogant moron + traitor


70 posted on 10/31/2004 9:40:59 AM PST by Gimme
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To: Diago

Says it all

71 posted on 10/31/2004 9:51:12 AM PST by kstewskis
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To: Salvation
KERRY CAN JUST SHOVE IT...
There is only one union and marriage, that being between
a man and woman.   Nothing else will never, ever be acceptable.

72 posted on 10/31/2004 9:56:44 AM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: scripter; little jeremiah; ArGee; Clint N. Suhks; Bryan; GOPcapitalist

Bump and Ping.


73 posted on 10/31/2004 10:19:11 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Salvation
Thanks for the link.

I tend to agree with whoever said that Kerry may have just done something out of moral arrogance that is extremely Not Smart.

IBM employees used to call it a "career-limiting move".

74 posted on 10/31/2004 10:21:43 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Ol' Sparky
The biggest issue if Bush gets reelected will be the issue of judges.

Well, I think we're going to be disappointed there. The few who've been discussed as appellate nominees or potential SCOTUS nominees have been pro-abortion, pro-Roe RiNO's. "Economic conservative" Rotary Club types, similar to Kennedy and Souter (although Souter had no palpable track record -- and barely a pulse -- when he came up, so who knew?).

Both Reagan nominees, Kennedy and O'Connor continue to swing like a rusty gate. I think both of them voted with the majority in the Lawrence decision, which pretty much showed us what they're made of, juridically.

75 posted on 10/31/2004 10:31:11 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Diago; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Today's gospel reading (Maronite Rite), was on the Final Judgement, when our Lord will separate those who "fed, clothed and visited Him", from those who did not. Our pastor used this gospel to deliver a very powerful homily on the election. He said the Catholic Church can't dictate how to vote; they are responsible to remind us though of church teachings. There is NO way a christian can endorse a candidate who is pro-abortion! There is no way a a christian can endorse a candidate who seeks to destroy the traditional family. We as catholics have a duty to examine the stands taken by all politicians and vote accordingly. God bless this priest!!!

The official position of the Catholic Church on Gay Unions:
CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS

In the Catholic tradition, responsible citizenship is a virtue; participation in the political process is a moral obligation.


Faithful Citizenship: A Catholic Call to Political Responsibility

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


76 posted on 10/31/2004 10:56:32 AM PST by NYer ("The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops." St. John Chrysostom)
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To: Jorge
Kerry's arrogance might just be his undoing.

We can hope and pray!

77 posted on 10/31/2004 11:05:09 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Salvation

Thank you for that great list of links!


78 posted on 10/31/2004 11:06:27 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Diago; lentulusgracchus; EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; ...
Bump and thanks for the ping. I thought I already pung (as lj would say) everybody to this article. I see some of you have already read and commented on the article...

Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)
Homosexual Keyword Search

Let me know if you want on or off the homosexual agenda ping list.

79 posted on 10/31/2004 11:12:32 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: NYer
"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," said the Massachusetts senator. "But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."

LOL, that's like saying I believe in the Catholic Church to a point, so don't confuse me with its teachings because, I have my mind made up.

80 posted on 10/31/2004 11:27:10 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry endorsed GW's Tora Bora strategy in 2001 and said it was pretty effective -now he's against it)
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