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ABC Poll: Bush-Kerry Race Closing Close (ABC suggests little change in last night's numbers)
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Posted on 10/30/2004 2:21:24 PM PDT by ambrose
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:21:24 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: ambrose
Likely voters in this poll are more Democratic than Republican by two points. On Tuesday, where partisanship ultimately leads, the outcome likely will follow. Don't count on that.
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:23:57 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: ambrose
Polls are irrelevant at this point. Kerry's best days in the tracking are always Friday and Saturday. The Dims are telling their people "Well yes the polls are close but we have the better ground game"
If we coast we are toast. Get every Republican voter to the polls. It's all about Turnout!
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:25:00 PM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
To: ambrose
Says Bush is 2/10th's of a point from 50 and they announce 49?
At least they admit it.
To: ambrose
The race, in interviews Tuesday through Friday, is not meaningfully different from the 50-47 percent division in yesterday's four-day tracking result. Bush, for example, today is just two-tenths of a point shy of the 50-percent mark he reached yesterday.I don't get it. Is Bush really at 49.8% (which rounds up to 50%) or 49.3% (which rounds down to 49%)? And is Kerry closer to 48.4 percent or 47.5%?
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:25:46 PM PDT
by
kesg
To: ambrose
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:26:29 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(A conservative bases his politics on his morals. ... A liberal bases his morals on his politics.)
To: ambrose
I finally got polled for the first time in my life today by the PEEEEWWWWWWWW (as Rush would pronounce it :-D) Research Center. I thought the questions were balanced, but I don't know if they will use it after I told them I'm voting for the President. :-)
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:26:56 PM PDT
by
Freepdonia
(Victory is Ours!)
To: ambrose
Polls are irrelevant at this point. Kerry's best days in the tracking are always Friday and Saturday. The Dims are telling their people "Well yes the polls are close but we have the better ground game"
If we coast we are toast. Get every Republican voter to the polls. It's all about Turnout!
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:26:56 PM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
To: Dog Gone
Likely voters in this poll are more Democratic than Republican by two points. On Tuesday, where partisanship ultimately leads, the outcome likely will follow. Given the fact that actual voters were 4% more Democratic in 2000, one could interpret that as a net gain of 2% on our 2000 position.
To: MNJohnnie
Trying to keep Kerry in the race.Dont believe the BullSh*t! Bush has,is,and will WIN!!!
To: ambrose
Nicely nuanced explanation of the numbers.
Did I say, "nuanced"?
Nuance has its place, I guess. But, for most situations in life, I believe authenticity is a great strength. It's easier, and less time-consuming, to be truthful.
'Tis the gift to be simple.."tis the gift to be free..'tis the gift to come down where we ought to be.
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:30:26 PM PDT
by
syriacus
(Nuance? 'Tis the gift to be simple..to be free..to come down where we ought to be.)
To: ambrose
For Kerry, union voters are one group to watch; he leads Bush by 58-39 percent among likely voters from union households, almost precisely the same as Al Gore's 59-37 percent margin among such voters in 2000. A strong union turnout could prove critical to the Democrat's hopes. People in union households can be a bit paranoid about answering polls. It is not unheard of for union organizers to do polls under phony cover, in the attempt to find out who in their ranks is with and against their endorsements. So, union members who are Bush voters may declare for Kerry, in a telephone poll.
Yet, another poll I've read has union households breaking for Bush. To discover whether unions can prop up John Kerry, see the plight of Dick Gephardt, in the 2004 primaries.
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:30:34 PM PDT
by
unspun
(RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
To: ambrose
Look at the numbers for the 'most important issues'. Every other poll I have seen lists terrorism over the economy but this one is about 4-5 % shy in that area. Besides that they seem to have done some creative rounding here if as they say Bush is only 2/10 below 50%. This close to the election in a race this tight they should report exact results. If Bush actually has 49.8% and Kerry has 47.8% then the difference is actually 2% not 1%. In this sort of a race that is a HUGE difference.
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:30:46 PM PDT
by
JoeV1
(The Democrats-The unlawful and corrupt leading the uneducated and blind)
To: kesg
You and me both...doesn't 49.8 round off to 50%? What am I missing here?
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:32:09 PM PDT
by
cj2a
(When you're pathetic, but you don't know you're pathetic, that's really pathetic.)
To: ambrose
Turnout, as noted, is critical in a close race. I, for one, will crawl across a field of broken glass if necessary to vote FOR George W, Bush and AGAINST J F'ng Kerry!
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:33:08 PM PDT
by
The Sons of Liberty
(The Swiftboat Vets - Patriotic Americans STILL serving their country!)
To: ambrose
I have a strong feeling the big story on Wednesday will be how it was that the race seemed like a tie when in fact Bush won by over 5%.
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:33:16 PM PDT
by
Casloy
To: kesg
All they're saying is nothing really changed, and the movement was a statistical burp.
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:33:29 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: ambrose
I hate tracking polls. :(
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posted on
10/30/2004 2:36:45 PM PDT
by
kesg
To: cj2a
You and me both...doesn't 49.8 round off to 50%? What am I missing here?I think what you're missing is that they want it to sound closer than it really is. It's not bad enough that the numbers are probably wrong anyway, they have to make it sound EVEN closer!
MORONS!!
To: ambrose
All they're saying is nothing really changed, and the movement was a statistical burp. I think the biggest move was from roundoff. One day Bush was rounded up and Kerry rounded down, the next Bush was rounded down and Kerry was rounded up.
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