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Officer Shot Man At Wheel From Rear
Washington Post ^ | 10/30/4 | Fredrick Kunkle and Elizabeth Williamson

Posted on 10/29/2004 9:43:07 PM PDT by SmithL

An off-duty deputy U.S. marshal embroiled in an apparent road rage confrontation along Rockville Pike on Thursday night fired repeatedly into the rear window of his adversary's car, killing the man as he sat behind the wheel, according to police and witnesses.

Numerous witnesses to the death of Ryan T. Stowers, 20, at the Mid-Pike Plaza in Rockville shortly before 8:30 p.m. were being interviewed by Montgomery County police yesterday. Authorities said no decision had been made on whether charges would be filed against the deputy marshal, Arthur L. Lloyd, 53, a 28-year veteran of the U.S. Marshals Service assigned to U.S. District Court in Washington.

"The rear window was shattered out," said Capt. John Fitzgerald, a police spokesman, who said investigators had begun to talk with at least 40 witnesses. "With that many witnesses, there ought to be a very clear picture of what went down."

Although Fitzgerald said Stowers may have driven toward the federal agent in the plaza parking lot, three people who said they witnessed the shooting told The Washington Post that Lloyd was standing with his gun drawn and opened fire after Stowers drove past him.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: badcops; banglist; donutwatch; roadrage
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To: MississippiMan

No prob. Based on the latter two articles, it looks like this jerk was a disaster waiting to happen - shame it cost this other kid his life.


61 posted on 11/28/2004 7:25:56 PM PST by general_re ("What's plausible to you is unimportant." - D'man)
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To: clee1

Was the U.S.Marshal the only shooter? If the glass went outward would that indicate someone inside shooting?


62 posted on 11/28/2004 7:26:01 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (Texas Songwriter)
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To: Judith Anne

Sorry I had to change names they deleted my other account. Im sorry for any offensive words in my last post but it wont happen again. I found this discussion form today when I got word that Stowers was killed in a drive by, that sounded a little funny so I started searching for it on the internet and found about 10 pages on it. All I know is what I read from the articals and heard from other people. Stowers did not deserve what happened to him. I want to give my depest sympathies to his family and all of his friends. For the stowers family my email is antwon8797@yahoo.com i have some of his stuff if you would like me to send it to you just email me.


63 posted on 11/28/2004 8:14:04 PM PST by antwon8797
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To: antwon8797; Admin Moderator

If you have some of the victim's possessions, why don't you just call them, instead of posting an email address asking them to get in touch with you? And what indication do you have that they will be looking at FR to read your post here? Something smells very very fishy here...

I would be very very skeptical of something like that, were I them.


64 posted on 11/28/2004 8:24:33 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: general_re
From reading the 2d article:

"He filed two equal employment opportunity complaints against his bosses in the early 1990s, and he filed a racial discrimination and retaliation lawsuit in 1997 when he was not promoted. He won a $36,000 award from a jury in 2001. Lloyd claimed that his bosses denied him job promotions and overtime as retaliation for earlier complaints."

Somebody please tell me this guy is not a minority so I don't have to think this idiot was kept in his job because they couldn't fire him without opening themselves to another lawsuit...

65 posted on 11/28/2004 8:33:40 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Wood?)
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To: Judith Anne

First off I dont happen to have his home phone number sorry to say. I will say for proof if the parents happen to read this that I was in his bootcamp division 163 my last name is Morandi. If they want they can verify this by looking in his bootcamp journal book. Why dont waste some forum space somewhere else.


66 posted on 11/28/2004 8:35:08 PM PST by antwon8797
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To: antwon8797

Why would his parents happen to read this?


67 posted on 11/28/2004 8:37:33 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

I dont know why they might read this. But they might and if I had any other way of getting ahold of them I would of done it. Now please stop posting about me trying to get ahold of his parents.


68 posted on 11/28/2004 8:41:09 PM PST by antwon8797
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To: antwon8797

You know what? I can think of a lot of legitimate ways for you to get his belongings to his family, without putting stuff on the FR forum. Who were your superiors at boot camp? They would be able to forward his possessions that you claim to have, to his family.

I'll tell you something else. You resurrected this thread, which had died, using another user name. You were thrown off FR under that name, and now you've re-registered with another name. You're claiming to know the deceased, and trying to use FR to contact his family, saying that you have some of his "stuff."

What were you planning? To get them to send money for his "stuff" that you claim to have? Your whole story is fishy.


69 posted on 11/28/2004 8:55:24 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

Alright first off I put out information for his family to contact me if they happen to come across this. We are also on this thing called thanksgiving stand down which means there is no one in the offices that I can get ahold of at this time. I will try to see if I can find a way to contact him but in the navy everything takes time. I was hoping that maybe I could get ahold of them sooner than later. If his family happens to see this they can contact me and see for themselves if its fishy. I reserected this thread because I just found out about this at 6 am in the morning and saw people saying he could have been a punk and I just wanted to clear that up. Finally if you had any kind of a heart you wouldn't be questioning anyones intentions of trying to contact his parents. There is nothing I have to prove to you so this will be my last post to you in this discussion.


70 posted on 11/28/2004 9:35:05 PM PST by antwon8797
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To: antwon8797; hellinahandcart
Finally if you had any kind of a heart you wouldn't be questioning anyones intentions of trying to contact his parents.

If you had any kind of a brain, my problem with your posts would be clear to you. People who prey on families of the recently deceased are the lowest of the low.

71 posted on 11/29/2004 4:55:58 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Shooter was 53 year old black male, deceased guy was 20 year old white male, FYI.


72 posted on 11/29/2004 5:04:51 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: antwon8797; Eaker; Judith Anne; netmilsmom; Devil_Anse; T Minus Four; ~Kim4VRWC's~; retrokitten; ...
I dont know why they might read this. But they might and if I had any other way of getting ahold of them I would of done it.

Tell you what. Just to make double-sure they "might" see it, why don't you also put a message in a bottle and...throw it overboard?

73 posted on 11/29/2004 5:19:12 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Judith Anne

Sorry, Judith Anne. Seems I'm late for most of the "you people are cruel, heartless and judgmental" messages that were posted this weekend. :(


74 posted on 11/29/2004 5:20:31 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: SmithL

He (the kid) probably had one of those bass-heavy stereos that cranked out a bunch of that rap crap rattling the screws loose from his Trak Auto accessorized pimp mobile, in which case, I'd have to go with "justifiable homicide".


75 posted on 11/29/2004 5:21:10 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Judith Anne; antwon8797; hellinahandcart; HenryLeeII
i dunno, i dont see anything weird about posting a message on an internet forum assuming that the right person will just stumble along and read it.  i oftentimes give personal information too.  especially on forums where i've already been banned for offensive language.  why just the other day i was on democratic underground where i posted that my address is 1781 federal street, apartment 2a and i keep my  extra key behind the door lamp.  or that time in the britany spears chatroom when i told them my mothers maden name, my name, my soical security number and my internet password.  what could possibly go wrong?  they seemed like a nice bucnh of people.
 
anyway, what i really wanted to post about, was very similar to what antwon was posting about except the opposite- kevin murray, i went to highschool with you and that summer a few years ago, i loaned you my yearbook?  i'd really like it back.  you can e mail me at theaidsmonkey@yahoo.com
Thanks

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

76 posted on 11/29/2004 6:13:14 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (Zell Miller- No Better Friend, No Worse Enemy.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

ROFL!!


77 posted on 11/29/2004 6:19:47 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

the key wan't behind the lamp. please replace it with a new one and then post when you are done. thanks. do you have a dog? a big dog?


78 posted on 11/29/2004 7:20:51 AM PST by Eaker ("He's the kind of guy who would fight a rattlesnake and give the snake a two-bite head start.")
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To: Hatteras
It looks like you would be wrong...the officer has been charged with murder...and this thread is resurrected by a "friend" of the deceased.
79 posted on 11/29/2004 7:52:36 AM PST by trussell (Unemployed intellectual...will act like a pompous ass for food!!)
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To: trussell
A friend of the deceased or not. I'll give you 10:1 odds that the kid did something cocky and stupid thinking he would just intimidate some "old man" and skate on by like he probably has done a hundred times before to other innocent pedestrians in parking lots. Only this time, he ran into a murderering nutjob who called him on his arrogance.

Of course he didn't deserve this fate, but something had to set off the shooter.

80 posted on 11/29/2004 8:37:01 AM PST by Hatteras
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