Posted on 10/29/2004 12:35:36 AM PDT by kingattax
Is it reality or the appearance of reality in New Jersey? On Tuesday, President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney will learn whether the Garden State was a political mirage or a political upset. The polls are tantalizingly close. It began Oct. 2 with a New Jersey City University poll for The Jersey Journal showing staunchly Democratic Hudson County favored Bush, 37 to 33 percent, over Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic rival. The Journal poll inspired Statehouse observers to ask: "What's going on in Hudson County?" But soon they would be asking questions about the rest of the state.
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sure hope so.
Because it would make dan rather cry.
it could very well happen. for a lot of people in NJ the
war on terror is a very personal issue. Might be a VERY
early night Tuesday if NJ goes red.
And lots of CATHOLICS in Jersey. I really think Catholics are going to reject Kerry and his amorality.
Yep. Kerry is about as religious as Saddam Hussein. There's a fraud in every congregation.
I just looked it up, half of the church goers in New Jersey are Catholic.
If Democratic Hudson County does go BIG for Bush, John F*ckin's goose is cooked. I can't believe the President is up in a Democratic stronghold! Then again, the President has been a big hit in areas carried by Algore in 2000.
Thats a ton. And being Bush is known for his strong faith, coupled with the scars 9/11 has left in that state, he has a great chance. If Bush wins NJ, it's a sign of doom for Kerry.
I live in nj, and actually hope some pub lawyers show up at the polls in this state to help prevent election fraud. I think it's been going on for years here (got no proof, just a gut feeling).
NJ tripped over itself to vote for Clinton and then Gore by huge margins. I think social values work against Bush in NJ. I never got a sense that many NJ residents cared much about Monica Lewinsky et al.
It is terrorism and security that drive Bush's dramatic improvement.
Thats my one fear! Fraud is so hard to definitively catch and stop. How ironic is it that last election Bush was up around 50,000 votes in florida with only 1% of the precincts left to be counted, and suddenly Gore came charging back. He had to practically get every last vote. I think people will monitor the totals and if necessary try to slide in some last minute votes that were mysteriously not counted.
Since no RAT operative would have guessed that NJ was in play, there has been no organized fraud in the state, just the normal stuff. Here's hoping to an EARLY wooden stake in the heart of Kerry...
First, I hoe it's so, and Bush walks away with NJ's EVs.
Second, I bet against it happening, right after the fluke FDU poll. Not as confident it was a good bet the last 36 hours.
Third, Expect problems in the vote tallying in NJ, if at some point in the night, the internal exit polls show Bush ahead.
Fourth, Kerry tries to clusterf**k the Pharma industry, the Pharma industry employees aren't going out without a fight. If each Pharma employee in NJ influences 2 friends to vote against Kerry, it's more than enough votes to turn the state to Bush.
Fifth, Kerry lacks any street cred, any sense of the NJ everyman, hell, Springstein can play at rallies for you, but needing him there is an admission of your lack of blu collar credentials. In places like Hudson county, the average person realizes that Kerry would be afraid to even walk down the street in some of the neighborhoods there, let alone stand up and lead in a time of renewed terror attacks nationwide. Clinton would not only walk the walk in the neighborhood, he'd stop at Mickey D's and scarf down 2 Big Macs withthe locals.
Sixth, Religious communities in the state
Seventh, Terrorism
Eighth, In a state where anti-gun, pro-NEA, "for the children" mush platitudes can get almost any warm bodied Democrat elected, there has been a complete lack of that type of campaigning by Kerry in N. Jersey. I love the conundrum, how can one be anti-gun, anti-self defense, and be pro military, pro strong national defense? Ephemeral Jersey voters finally caught on, after their neighbors and friends ashed drifted across the Hudson.
Ninth, Corruption, Deomcrats, McSleaze
I'm not sure about the religious community angle. They(we) overwhelmingly vote Rep election after election in the rural, exurban, and suburban areas.
Yep, yep, yep. I gots an Aunt who lives in FLA, and she and her neighbors thought that whole "chad" thing was about the dems putting multiple cards into the voting machines (tough to punch through 4 cards, ya know). Hence the dem push to look at "intent".
Anyway, I wouldn't object to some kind of voter id thing (show a driver's license) to prove you are who you are before voting. In nj they make you sign your name - this is good.
Agreed. Everyone should show id. It just makes sense.
This looks promising. Going to sleep now - will respond tomorrow.
Of course what's asinine, is how democrats don't understand why they should be required to vote in their precinct or county. I mean let's be serious. What's to keep someone from voting at multiple locations. I dont believe many states have the electronic system in place tp instantly verify such information. Unless you're dead set on commiting voter fraud, this is common sense.
Blue collar Demonctars from Hudson County get a look at GROUND ZERO constantly. They have not forgotten 9-11.
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