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I searched all over (Kerry military discharge, October Surprise) and couldn't find this on FR.
1 posted on 10/28/2004 10:31:26 PM PDT by cgk
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This won't get any play, according to the MSM Kerry walks on water. I've given up, the only thing that can help Bush now is faith.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 10:33:03 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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The only 180 John Kerry hasn't accomplished in his litany of flip-flops throughout his campaign is Standard Form 180

Great line!
4 posted on 10/28/2004 10:36:03 PM PDT by andyk
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Brokaw interview with Kerry. Interesting response to military records question.
MSNBC ^ | 2004-10-28

Posted on 10/28/2004 8:52:57 PM EDT by jerod

Brokaw: Someone has analyzed the President's military aptitude tests and yours, and concluded that he has a higher IQ than you do.

Kerry: That's great. More power. I don't know how they've done it, because my record is not public. So I don't know where you're getting that from.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...

6 posted on 10/28/2004 10:37:17 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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The Kerry campaign and website continue to claim he has released all military records.

Kerry told Tom Bochov tonight that they haven't all been released

7 posted on 10/28/2004 10:37:42 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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Bush, by the way, did the right thing--he signed his Form 180.

I was unaware of this. I knew he had released lots of records, but I thought neither President Bush nor Kerry had signed a 180.
8 posted on 10/28/2004 10:37:55 PM PDT by andyk
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Without Kerry's assistance, however, it will take a critical and very timely leak or we will never know the truth behind Kerry's military service in time for it to make the difference. O.K., then we beat them at their own game; we start the "speculation" that Kerry received a less than honorable discharge until intervention from former President Jimmy Carter. In law, I believe they call that, establishing reasonable doubt.
9 posted on 10/28/2004 10:38:48 PM PDT by no dems (NICE GUYS FINISH LAST. GET RADICAL !!!)
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To: cgk
Best post I've read so far on the issue. Easy for a civilian to understand. Thanks for posting.


10 posted on 10/28/2004 10:44:04 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Islam is a religion of peace. Strange every murdering psychopath in the world is attracted to it.)
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This item jarod posted earlier today might help.

Brokaw interview with Kerry

Brokaw: Someone has analyzed the President's military aptitude tests and yours, and concluded that he has a higher IQ than you do.

Kerry: That's great. More power. I don't know how they've done it, because my record is not public. So I don't know where you're getting that from.

11 posted on 10/28/2004 10:48:08 PM PDT by MIsunshine
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Among other things, the new form changes Kerry's official US Navy separation date to March 1, 1970!

Maybe someone can help me out here. Kerry's DD214 from his website lists a separation date of March 1, 1970. Now, I realize this is a separation from active duty to the USNR (i.e., not a discharge!). It would not be the final entry in his DD214, which would eventually include his discharge from the Naval Reserves. However, I'm confused by the fact that the DD215 appears to update this date of separation (not discharge) to the same date. Furthermore, LTC Patterson appears to pass off the "updated" separation date as a date of discharge. What am I missing here?
16 posted on 10/28/2004 10:53:11 PM PDT by andyk
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To: cgk; The Sailor; grace522; kjfine; Old Sarge; USAF_TSgt; darkwing104; txradioguy; Long Cut; ...

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John Kerry's Discharge
He won't sign Form 180
What is he hiding?

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20 posted on 10/28/2004 11:07:16 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Nov 2 : Remember the 58,000 + Names on the Wall)
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Unfortunately it's probably too late in the game for this issue to become front page news, plus Kerry is not gonna win. But I think we all owe it to our Vietnam Veterans, and all of our other Veterans, to expose John Kerry for the fraud he is.


27 posted on 10/28/2004 11:18:25 PM PDT by MJY1288 (A MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK HAS NEVER LED ANY TEAM TO VICTORY)
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A question what did Kerry take for his 'other than honorable discharge'?

Penicillin?

Or was it some peanut butter?


33 posted on 10/28/2004 11:45:26 PM PDT by punster
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Another great ad idea...Bush's records, video of their release...Kerry on Tim Russert promising that all records were or would be released....Kerry and Blowchow, that the records HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED.


34 posted on 10/28/2004 11:51:49 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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"Buzz" Patterson is a 'good guy'! He had an insider's view of the White House during the Slick years--as the President's aide 'carrying the football.'

He's the author of "DERELICTION OF DUTY"--great reading about how Slick was derelict in his duty as President.

35 posted on 10/28/2004 11:52:47 PM PDT by stockstrader
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bump


38 posted on 10/29/2004 12:13:13 AM PDT by Laffalot
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All this speculation is great, but unless this drops *tomorrow* there's no point in wondering about it.


41 posted on 10/29/2004 1:22:51 AM PDT by Timm
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By moving Kerry's discharge date to early in 1970, all of Kerry's post-Vietnam activities would be theoretically exempt from military justice. By moving his discharge date to March of 1970, Kerry's meeting with the enemy, North Vietnamese Communists in Paris in May of 1970, would be exempt. His joining the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in June of 1970 and his radical, anti-war anti-government activities that followed would be exempt. The Winter Soldier Investigation in January, 1971, and Kerry's infamous testimony to Congress in April, 1971 would be exempt. His arrest for his protest activities in May, 1971, would be exempt. His attendance at a VVAW meeting in Kansas City where the assassination of several prominent and hawkish U.S. senators was discussed and voted on would be exempt.

OMG. I've never read this before.

44 posted on 10/29/2004 2:33:13 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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Great quote: "The only 180 John Kerry hasn't accomplished in his litany of flip-flops throughout his campaign is Standard Form 180."


47 posted on 10/29/2004 3:47:29 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ( "[Y]our arguments are devoid of value. I, as a woman, have so declared it." -- BushIsTheMan)
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By moving Kerry's discharge date to early in 1970, all of Kerry's post-Vietnam activities would be theoretically exempt from military justice.

bottom line

48 posted on 10/29/2004 3:58:19 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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Truth has no need to hide in the dark.


49 posted on 10/29/2004 4:03:52 AM PDT by chuknospam
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