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For U.S. Senate (PA; no, not that Clymer alert!!)
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | October 29, 2004 | Editorial

Posted on 10/28/2004 10:31:16 PM PDT by buzzyboop

By now we had hoped to be rid of Sen. Arlen Specter.

Unfortunately, Pat Toomey, the brave and conservative Lehigh Valley congressman we endorsed in the May primary, could not surgically remove our state's four-term cancer from the U.S. Senate.

We have the next-best thing to Mr. Toomey, however, in Constitution Party candidate Jim Clymer, a Lancaster lawyer who is as close to the kind of principled, small-government conservative Republican we can hope for in 2004.

Thus, we wholeheartedly endorse Jim Clymer for U.S. Senate.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: election; hoeffel; independent; jimclymer; pennsylvania; senate; specter
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No way will I vote for Scottish Law Arlen..
1 posted on 10/28/2004 10:31:17 PM PDT by buzzyboop
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To: buzzyboop

The pure is the enemy of the good.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 10:33:01 PM PDT by Petronski (A Monday morning quarterback has never led any team to victory.)
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To: Petronski

Penn Senate race is precisely why I no lnger support the RNC with dues or contributions.

All of my money goes to the Club for Growth.

Although a NRA Life member, I am livid they endorsed this RINO in PA. Toomey was a much better candidate.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 10:36:49 PM PDT by glockem (Consensus is the lack of leadership)
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To: buzzyboop

So you'd like a Democrat-controlled Senate? I can understand not wanting to support a pro-choice liberalish (but not truly liberal) guy like Arlen, but when the pinch is on, he votes on the right side, and his vote keeps Frist in the leadership position. You have to understand that he has to represent the views of his constituents, and Pennsylvania is a swing state with a lot of Democrats. Sure, Santorum is far better, and has shown that a conservative can win a general election here, but you have to take what you can get. I'm voting for Arlen, not enthusiastically, but the Huffer is unacceptable and he will win if enough people follow your lead. Arlen won't live forever. But we'll live to see a better choice one day.


4 posted on 10/28/2004 10:37:35 PM PDT by MohawkDrums
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To: glockem
Although a NRA Life member, I am livid they endorsed this RINO in PA. Toomey was a much better candidate.

Agreed.

5 posted on 10/28/2004 10:41:16 PM PDT by Petronski (A Monday morning quarterback has never led any team to victory.)
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To: buzzyboop

From what I hear Arlen is not helping Bush one iota and the Congressional candidates in eastern PA.

If Arlen won't help us we won't help him, I endorse you vote for Jim Clymer, Constitution party.


6 posted on 10/28/2004 10:44:40 PM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: MohawkDrums

Specter will win, but he isn't getting my vote. I just moved to PA from Virginia, where I had real Republican senators. The Republicans will pick up two or three seats in the Senate, and without Specter the GOP caucus would be more conservative. Do you realize Specter will be Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee?? With two and possible three Supreme Court Justice nominations to run? It makes me ill just thinking about it.


7 posted on 10/28/2004 10:44:42 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud Reagan Alumna!)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Specter is a Republican in name only.


8 posted on 10/28/2004 10:48:09 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Dems_R_Losers

He won't win if enough Republicans abandon him. Do you really want a Democratic Senate? Or a minority Democrat senator with no clout? I have
to vote as a Republican first, a Pennsylvanian second and a conservative third. The first two trump the last.


9 posted on 10/28/2004 11:18:44 PM PDT by MohawkDrums
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To: MohawkDrums


What about voting for the Constitution and liberty? To me I'll settle for a junior senator if we can remove another RINO from the Senate. They're like bad weeds -we never miss them.


10 posted on 10/28/2004 11:25:14 PM PDT by glockem (Consensus is the lack of leadership)
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To: MohawkDrums


What about voting for the Constitution and liberty? To me I'll settle for a junior senator if we can remove another RINO from the Senate. They're like bad weeds -we never miss them.


11 posted on 10/28/2004 11:26:10 PM PDT by glockem (Consensus is the lack of leadership)
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To: glockem

I respect your view, and I understand it, but I'd really be surprised if Specter serves the full term anyway. I don't think there's much point in arguing because he's clearly going to win, as you or someone said. If you think you can risk a vote on principle, I admire that, but I would feel like I was throwing my vote away and possibly helping the Democrat.


12 posted on 10/28/2004 11:39:33 PM PDT by MohawkDrums
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To: glockem

If a Democrat is elected instead of Spectre, that's a 2 votes swing. This is Arlen's last election. Thank God. Next time we'll be able to run a more conservative senator. However, for now, we need him in there. With the next president about to nominate 2 to 3 justices, every vote counts.

Hold your nose and vote for Arlen. If he were running for governor, I'd have said vote against him (a terrible governor destroys the whole party of that state - notice IL). However, in the Senate, it has helped us greatly to have RINO's instead of Democrats in those states that lean Democrat.


13 posted on 10/28/2004 11:43:58 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I just moved to PA from Virginia, where I had real Republican senators.

Well, just when did John Warner become a "real" Republican senator? He voted to strike down Bill Clinton's impeachment. He also voted against the illustrious Pennsylvanian of the century, Judge Bork.


14 posted on 10/29/2004 4:34:46 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: glockem

We don't miss RINOs, do we? What about John Chaffee? I can't even remember if his name has two "f's" or two "e's." And Lincoln Chaffee is equally a nonentity.


15 posted on 10/29/2004 4:36:35 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: buzzyboop

Actually, I going to use my magic vote. I will pull the lever for Spectre, but my vote is going to reverse itself in mid flight, and end up with Clymer.


16 posted on 10/29/2004 4:39:04 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (George Bush kills terrorists. Bill Clinton pardons them. John Al-Qerry will apologize to them.)
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To: buzzyboop
I'll be voting for Jim Clymer. I even sent him some $$ last month.

Specter will still win but even if he doesn't I won't regret my vote.

I hated the SOB to begin with but now more than ever. Even after getting help from other republicans to defeat Toomey he won't return the favor and help some of the same republicans (like GWB!) that helped him.

17 posted on 10/29/2004 4:40:50 AM PDT by NEPA
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To: winner3000

I know everyone wants to hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. But then you only get evil. Every election I hear - don't throw your vote away -principle is okay but we don't want a dem -or whatever the excuse de jour.

WE all complain government doesn't respond. How can it when we get less than principled people elected based on fear onf the lesser of two evils. Government lurches to the left a little more each time we fail to really do the right thing.


18 posted on 10/29/2004 9:12:24 AM PDT by glockem (Consensus is the lack of leadership)
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To: glockem

This is Specter's last campaign. The Democrat is younger and would have incumbency and it would very difficult for you to get rid of him if he wins.


19 posted on 10/29/2004 9:15:52 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Fresh Wind
Actually, I going to use my magic vote. I will pull the lever for Spectre, but my vote is going to reverse itself in mid flight, and end up with Clymer.

It's been said numerous times and that portrayal of Specter's single bullet theory wasn't true the first time it was said and it still isn't true.

If you want to oppose Specter, at least be factual about it.

20 posted on 10/29/2004 9:18:44 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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