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YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT
National Review Online ^ | 10/26/04 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 10/26/2004 2:55:03 PM PDT by tomahawk

YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT [10/26 05:23 PM]

From yet another Kerry Spot reader with a ".mil" e-mail address:

You are correct in your bottom line conclusion. Here is a second follow up. I was serving as a [identifying information removed by the Kerry Spot] staff member during the time in question. The Commander on the site had complete real time intelligence on what to expect and possibly find at the Al-QaQaa depot. The ordinance in question was not found when teams were sent in to inspect and secure the area. When this information was relayed, Operational plans were adjusted and the unit moved forward. Had the ordinance in question been discovered, a security team would have been left in place.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaqaa; ammogate; explosives; iaeagate; medialies; napalminthemorning; nyt; nytrogate; wot
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To: tomahawk

It would be interesting to know if this information was provided to the Senate Intelligence Committee and Dear John just didn't get the memo.


21 posted on 10/26/2004 3:16:25 PM PDT by politicalwit (They want your vote... but not your voice.)
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To: js1138
Yeah ,I agree,The media can't make a phoney move at this point without the "PEASANTS With PUTERS" stomping on their pointy heads.
22 posted on 10/26/2004 3:18:52 PM PDT by Cheapskate ("America , F _ _ _ Yeah !)
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To: Fithee
Never in your life...you were born in the 1980s ?

Look,NBC broke the LIE story last night.ABC just may join in on the pile-on,as they went after cBS over RATHERGATE.

Keep on wearing your jammies and help the rest of us get the word out. :-)

23 posted on 10/26/2004 3:19:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: proust
I thought I read on here that Drudge said Rove gave the info to NYT. Do you suppose Rove is slick enough to do that, knowing full well Kerry would jump all over it, only to be squashed like a gnat and proven to be a liar by the 101st, Rush, Fox etc?

IMHO, if the 101st responds to this, Bush doesn't need to yet. Let them do it first so it doesn't look political.
24 posted on 10/26/2004 3:19:08 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: BlueNgold

I've heard this idea before, and it sounds appealing. But what is forgotten is that many people are voting right now, either early voting or absentee ballot, and this strategry writes these people off. Also, there never was an effective response on Tora Bora, even though Tommy Franks wrote an op ed defending his decisions on how to go after Bin Laden then-----Franks op ed was just lost and never reported by the media. Talk radio and Fox News are a help, but a good 40% of the population doesn't listen to them or get its news from the internet. Are we just going to write that group off?


25 posted on 10/26/2004 3:19:28 PM PDT by pushforbush
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To: xzins
s_26685.pdf
UNITED UNITED S NATIONS NATIONS Security Council Distr. S/ 26685 English Page 2 Annex Letter dated 29 October 1993 from the Acting Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency addressed to the

Click on the link above, go to the bottom of Page 5, Top of Page 6.  The IAEA planned to move the HMX from Al QaQaa sometime in late 2002-early 2003.  I just don't have the time to continue the research to determine if/when it was moved ...

26 posted on 10/26/2004 3:19:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: pushforbush

I am not worried about this story. It is destructing and it is hurting Kerry / the left more than Bush. Once again the fact that the major media is in bed with Kerry is showing. Another good thing about this story is that it was a pretty weak October surprise to begin with. Is that the best they can do? Recycle a year old baseless story that couldn’t even stand for 3 hours? I believe this story is showing Iraq was a danger. They were moving/hiding weapons before we arrived. What else did they move / hide? WMD?


27 posted on 10/26/2004 3:20:43 PM PDT by LongViewSC
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To: jennyjenny

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1257907/posts

WHAT THE IAEA DID
NROTC ^ | October 26, 2004 | Mark R. Levin


28 posted on 10/26/2004 3:20:58 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: tomahawk
We KNOW more of these are coming later this week...

I want to see some BC-04 ANGER over this one,

and all last-minute SLIMEJOBS DISCREDITED


29 posted on 10/26/2004 3:21:35 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: kfowler1
FNC said that Bush-Cheney 04 doesn't want to spend the ladt days of the campaign refuting evidence, but rather pushing their agenda. "Stay on the offensive, not the defensive."

There is great power and good in refuting false evidence. Bush needs to be an educator of the people like RWR.

30 posted on 10/26/2004 3:21:43 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: xzins; All

Heck, it's easier if I convert the relevant PDF text to HTML:

[snip]

17. Two hundred fifty-five tons of high explosive of the HMX type are stored under IAEA seal in six bunkers at the Al Qa Qaa site. As a typical dual-use material, HMX is listed in annex 3 to the plan. The present storage conditions

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of HMX at Al Qa Qaa are inconvenient for monitoring and cause some safety concerns. IAEA has requested that the Iraqi side consolidate the HMX in a safer and more convenient place to facilitate sealing and regular monitoring. The IAEA-20 team evaluated two large bunkers in the Muthanna complex which Iraq had proposed as an alternative storage location. With minor modifications to improve security, these bunkers represent a considerable improvement over the current storage conditions at Al Qa Qaa. The transfer of the HMX is expected to take place during IAEA-22.

[snip]

31 posted on 10/26/2004 3:23:31 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: watchout

23 January 2003

A UN chemical team traveled south of Baghdad to inspect the Al-Qaqaa missile complex. A missile team inspected the facility on Tuesday.


32 posted on 10/26/2004 3:23:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Great find, oeb.

It says that the Iraqis were looking for a location better suited for the explosive.

The original NYT article said that prior to the invasion they also COMPLAINED that the Iraqis had relocated quantities of the explosive...apparently without IAEA approval.


33 posted on 10/26/2004 3:27:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: kcvl
Bush needs to take the lead, in the media and big news departments now. He can't just run the clock out.
34 posted on 10/26/2004 3:27:54 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: tomahawk
NEWYORKTIMESLIES
35 posted on 10/26/2004 3:28:09 PM PDT by timestax
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To: kcvl

reporter Davey just confirms what we no,,no seals, no explosives, no trucks, roads a mess.


36 posted on 10/26/2004 3:28:18 PM PDT by cajungirl (Kerry:Bad for Geese, Bad for America)
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To: Fithee

Exactly. They didn't even pretend to research the story properly with military sources, as far as I can see. They just assumed, as CBS did with the TANG garbage, that they had a great 'gotcha' against Bush and operated in a way to ensure that they WOULD NOT encounter any conflicting information before running the story. Why would they want to risk that military sources could tell them the IAEA and their secret 'source' were full of it??? Much better for the MSM to push the poorly researched story out there.... and they claim that they have lofty standards that the blogs and talk radio wouldn't comprehend! Love the irony of that.....


37 posted on 10/26/2004 3:32:57 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: cajungirl

The President seems unable to become angry before the public. If so, that could be a big, big, mistake. I thought he was an older brother....


38 posted on 10/26/2004 3:33:13 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: pushforbush

I'm sure Bush has a reason that he does not respond right away. I bet it is because the Rats are trying to get him in a defense mode (where they throw out charges and he has to defend) instead of staying on his message. This is all strategy. It is easy for us to say he should come out with a defense right away, but that may be exactly what the Rats want him to do to get off message and show that he sustained a political hit from their BS.


39 posted on 10/26/2004 3:33:57 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: unspun

I'd be thrilled if Bush showed HALF the enthusiasm and energy over this story that Rush showed today.


40 posted on 10/26/2004 3:36:13 PM PDT by proust
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