Media Watchdog: 'October Surprise' Blows Up in Faces of NY Times, CBS News

Cybercast News Service ^ | October 26, 2004 | Melanie Hunter, Managing Editor

[reformedliberal]

I am not that afraid of 2008 unless somehow, the Donks manage to split the right over some single issue or another.

We have a deep bench of governors and retired generals. They have a couple of moderate Senators (who are still Senators), Hillary (who has a lot of baggage and high negatives, plus is mobilizing for our base, besides also being a Senator)and Richardson (who, I am told, is even more repulsive in person than he is on TV).

The next real fight is the 2006 midterms. If we do not solidify our hold on the Senate, W's 2nd term will be obstructed and we will risk it all in 2008 with a Senate in which the base has lost confidence.

As the GOP consolidates power, our worst problem is going to be internecine. If a strong 3rd party emerges on the right, we will loss control for a decade.

I am not a GOPer. I am a moderate who is right of center and who can live with some of the policies somewhat further to the right. Right now, because the left is so obnoxiously dangerous, the right is unified behind the candidate. However, the truth is that most people are centrist moderates who can accept a few policies somewhat further out along the curve on either side. Without them, no party wins.

We also need to increase our presence and influence in academia and all media. Every time a conservative TV channel is produced, to date, it has been so boring that I can only recall the tedium, not their names. I think we are doing a bit better in academia.

IMO, the Internet isn't enough, yet. People still want a physical newspaper or magazine to read. They also aren't going to give up TV, IMO.

That said, I don't question that the Ds are enjoying making us pay for this win. However, I just saw RNC vs DNC figures and we have a war chest of about 1/3 or so more than they do. Stamina is another thing entirely. They can make us hate politics by forcing everyone to their last reserve of endurance for as long as possible. Even that is a risk for them, though. Personally, I have developed an even stronger animosity towards the Ds/left because of the way they have played the past 4 years and this election. And that is really saying something.

[andy58-in-nh]

This needs to be exploited, with Bush going on the offensive against the UN failure

I'd love to see that. This is a point where Kerry is truly vulnerable, and the Bush campaign has not attacked this weakness as hard as they might. Under a Kerry Administration, the UN would be given a gatekeeper role - primary responsibility for our security against hostile foreign regimes. Feel safe now, America?

[mplsconservative]

"I keep wondering why they aren't out there working for their ideology."

Probably because they couldn't define the word 'ideology' in the first place.

Their lack of a core of beliefs and education leaves them incapable of action.

They get their jollies leaving F-bombs on FR because that is all they know how to do.

Useful idiots all.

[Twinkie]

No. They really do want Kerry to win. To them he is
the second coming (if that weren't too religious for
them). They despise George Bush and are so inundated
with Communist lies, I see little hope for them unless
they start listening to Rush regularly. - I can
remember the first time I ever heard Rush, I was so put
off with his bluster, but in a short time I realized he
was saying what I hadn't been able to put into words.
The leftists tend to think we are so judgmental that we can't possibly be fair; so they judge Rush harshly for
having back surgery and getting hooked on prescription
drugs. - If it were, say, Michael Moore, they would be
ever so kind about it. - What they don't understand about
us is that if President Bush had behaved the way Clinton did
in office, Repubs. would have run him out on a rail as they did President Nixon for far less than Clinton pulled.

[reformedliberal]

I agree they need to be destroyed. But don't think *people like us* are only a few. Maybe they don't spend every spare minute on FR, but they hate the media, mostly only watch FNC and rent DVDs. Few ever read any paper and most only read parts of their hometown paper and even that is fewer and fewer.

If there is one good thing to come out of this campaign, it is that the nice, decent people who always thought they could trust all politicians and all media to be honest i what they published are waking up. By degrees, certainly and not all at once. I meet them every day. After they vent about the bias and lies in the media, the slant injected into the dramas and movies,the strangeness they find in their kids classwork, they confide they are having problems with the kids teachers and all the problems seem rooted in the parent's faith, values or politics.

The next thing is getting folks confident enough that it isn't just them to fight back. I see slow signs of this, too. And I live in the Upper Midwest where no one even admits to thinking anyone else has even been mean...........usually.

I have always been in the majority, only I usually am somewhat ahead of the main pack. I sense a huge attitude change in all the people I see every day. Some I see regularly, in the course of business, so I see changes over time. The biggest changes I see are in young marrieds in their 20s-30s. They have gotten increasingly aware over the past 4 years, IMO.

[beyond the sea]

The Big Lie Theory is alive and well, and counts heavily on an uninformed electorate for success. Right now, almost exactly 50% of the electorate meets the requirements.

Your entire post is right on!

ABC, SeeBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, The New Your Slimes, The Washington Post, etc. are the most ruthless destructive enemies of this nation. The damage is done.

I used to think it was bad enough when they slanted stories, ignored stories and colored stories. Now they have stooped to MAKING THEM UP, and a great number of the electorate won't see through the lies. I hate those old media people more than I ever have disdained anyone in my life, and I hate Kerry and the Democrats for quickly running with the non-story........ and I'm not crazy about the uninformed and incurious American citizens who will swallow the lies.

America is in huge trouble!!!

[beyond the sea]

President Bush has got to start having Press Conferences or just making statements; to counter the lies told by Kerry campaign. Not enough to discover the lie; it has to be taken head on. . .

Bush must tell the truth to the American people; get it out there. . .special announcement from the President!' . . .and everyday until this frickin election! ----

Right, if he doesn't straighten out the lies, he loses!

[mrtysmm]

"...We far outnumber all of the dead union guys and illegal immigrants they can scrape up..."

We had better hope that statement is true. I, too, will wait in line all day if I have to...but quite honestly, the dems and their illegal activities scare me.

[igoramus987]

We have had the Rather CBS Memos / Bill Burkett / Max Cleland / Joe Lockhart hitpiece, with Kerry surrogates coming out almost immediately to bash Bush.

Now recently we have had the 380 TONS of missing explosives hitpiece by the IAEA and the NYTimes, and CBS is somehow involved as well, and miraculously Kerry is able to produce a TV Ad almost immediately.

We have had scare campaigns about the Draft, Social Security, and Suppressing the Minority Vote. What story is Kerry going to make up next...

How about Kerry making up a story about US troops committing ATROCITIES on a daily basis?

Oopps. I forgot. He did it in 1971. c.f. from www.WinterSoldier.com

In his April 1971 speech to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, John Kerry claimed that war crimes committed by the American military against Vietnamese civilians were "not isolated incidents, but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis..." War crimes in Vietnam were actually quite rare.

o Kerry claimed that war crimes were being committed "with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command." In fact, military personnel were warned that "if you disobey the rules of engagement, you can be tried and punished." War crimes were never a matter of policy, and were prosecuted when discovered.

o Kerry's used "testimony" from the VVAW's "Winter Soldier Investigation" as the basis for his war crimes charges, although none of the witnesses there were willing to sign depositions affirming their claims. Later investigators were unable to confirm any of the reported atrocities, and in fact discovered that a number of the witnesses had never been in Vietnam, had never been in combat, or were imposters who had assumed the identity of real veterans.

[cricket]

I, too, will wait in line all day if I have to...but quite honestly, the dems and their illegal activities scare me.

I have decided to 'vote early'; lest something make it difficult next week. . .

. . .but do worry that the Dems 'operations/implementations' to steal the election could be vastly underestimated. I am sure they have been working on this for four years. . .somehow. And 'anything goes' with these people.

[johnny7]

Ahem... other than Brit Hume last night, no other news 'anchor' gave a rat$ a$$ about Dana Lewis's embedded observations of the Iraqi ammo dump.

In fact, the impression I got was that the thievery must have happened under our noses... because cBS and the UN said so! Kerry is still using this crap and building on it! Meanwhile, the Bush administration has done nothing to counter the MSM BS machine. Oh yeah... in case you didn't see it, the AP ran another story today on Bush's National Guard service. Glad they're not letting go of that!

Don't fret folks... once Kerry is sworn in in January, all the bad news will stop. The homeless will have disappeared again and there will be flu-shots for all!

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Well, the MSM isn't the only game in town.

[tacticalogic]

As the GOP consolidates power, our worst problem is going to be internecine. If a strong 3rd party emerges on the right, we will loss control for a decade.

If it fragments, it's going to be along political conservative/social conservative lines. Bush is going to have some hard decisions to make, and it may come down to a choice of the long term interests of the republic, or the short term interests of the GOP.

[johnny7]

Well, the MSM isn't the only game in town.

BUT THEY'RE THE ONES WITH THE DECK!

The biggest story of this election, no matter who wins is... 'MSM Announces Merger with DNC'. On FOXNews, Brit Hume lamented to the 'panel'(Kondrake, Liasson and Krauthammer) that other MSM outlets were not following up on the NYTimes story and the UN's IAEA accusations.

They, except for Krauthammer, shrugged their shoulders in agreement and curiously replied that it was up to Bush to prove the assertions wrong. My jaw hit the floor!

CW... the national media has been compromised and its attack on Bush is only just the tip of the iceberg! Both they and the DNC are leading America into a socialist democracy... without a shot being fired.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Oh, I know they have a lot of exposer but why are people voting with their feet?

Brit's show is always better when Fred is there.

Most people don't watch any news shows.

[EdReform]

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