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NYT's October Surprise Collapses
The Truth Laid Bare ^ | 10/26/04

Posted on 10/26/2004 8:11:36 AM PDT by icecold

NYT's October Surprise Collapses October 26, 2004 04:33 AM

Yesterday, the New York Times did a fine service for the Kerry campaign by publishing a carefully timed hit piece describing how tons of explosives have gone missing from a site in Iraq.

This morning, the story is imploding, with NBC News leading the charge to point out that the explosives were already gone when U.S. troops arrived just a day after the fall of Baghdad. (Bizarrely, CNN has this as their lead story online, and it is nowhere to be found on MSNBC's front page).

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To: 1Old Pro

But is it? I hear 60 Mins. is running with it Sunday.


21 posted on 10/26/2004 8:23:28 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

I bet they've pulled it in favor of a dead opera singer profile with half-dead Morley Safer...


22 posted on 10/26/2004 8:25:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Grampa Dave

There's always been something about that picture of Kerry that bothers me. Supposedly, he was discharged in 1972. This pic is from 1971. For his hair to have gotten that long, he would have had to have been out of the military for at least 6-12 months. That would mean that he was no longer on active duty, or even active reserves, since sometime in late 1970 to early 1971 at the latest, not 1972, as he claims.


23 posted on 10/26/2004 8:26:12 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: treeclimber

Kerry said in a campaign speech today; 1) Terrorist got their hands on this "missing" 380 tons high explosive.
Analysis: If the "Terrorist" were able to get it just a day after the regime fell the "Terrorist" must have already been there. 2) The "Terrorist" were flooding across the borders. Analysis: Contradiction to previous statement and so what. Isn't over there exactly where we want the terrorist? The more the better. 3) The missing high explosives in the hands of terrorist is a WMD. Analysis: Contradiction, Kerry previously stated there was WMD or Terrorist.
Kerry is now crying over an anticipation that President Bush will ask for $70 billion more dollars for the war. I thought Kerry wouldn't spare any expense to support our troops?


24 posted on 10/26/2004 8:26:20 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: sarasota
I hear 60 Mins. is running with it Sunday.

Really? I guess they are going to hold off on the George W. Bush is a serial killer story.

25 posted on 10/26/2004 8:26:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Racehorse
I believe most people get their news on the Internet. Look at Rathergate. It took less than a day for the NYT hit piece to discredited. Now Drudge has reported that CBS was going air this Sunday. The MSM days are numbered.
26 posted on 10/26/2004 8:26:37 AM PDT by JonDavid
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To: Semper Paratus

I suspect they have other stuff up their sleeves. Hopefully as pathetic as this story has turned out to be.


27 posted on 10/26/2004 8:27:20 AM PDT by ohioGOP (Libs: Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You...DEMAND IT.)
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To: ohioGOP

Right. I can't believe this is their bog one. Thursday.


28 posted on 10/26/2004 8:29:03 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: icecold
It can't implode fast enough for me. We need to see the implosion on this, like, yesterday. Lots of current talk on it with old information. Kerry's still focusing on it. What is UP?!
29 posted on 10/26/2004 8:29:12 AM PDT by NetSurfer (Proud member of the Pajama-Wearing Lunatic Fringe)
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To: ohioGOP

bog = big


30 posted on 10/26/2004 8:29:22 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: wyattearp

He apparently grows hair like the men in my family, lots of it and very fast. If my sons and I don't get our hair cut every 4 weeks, in about 6 weeks, our hair looks like Kerry's did in that picture.

Having said that, no Naval Reserve unit would have allowed him to wear his hair like that.

We have not been told the real story about Kerry after he came home re his reserve time left and his eventual discharge.


31 posted on 10/26/2004 8:29:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: 1Old Pro

The Old Gray Lady has fallen, and she can't get up!


33 posted on 10/26/2004 8:31:40 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: treeclimber

According to Drudge, CBS was planning to launch this story on the next 60 minutes program.


34 posted on 10/26/2004 8:32:11 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: icecold

This story has no legs...I hope this was what they were counting on for the "October Surprise".


35 posted on 10/26/2004 8:40:43 AM PDT by The Hollywood Conservative (I can't even make a tagline because I'm a GIANT IDIOT!!!)
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To: 1Old Pro
Weds big story on CBS: Bush is a serial killer.
Thursday big story on NBC: Bush tortures puppies.
Friday big story on ABC: Bush is a reefer fiend
Saturday big story on AP: Kerry won third debate
Sunday big story in NYT: Halliburton funded bin Laden
Monday big story on CNN: Laura Bush lied about being a librarian
Tuesday big story in MSM: Ohio and Florida threatened by bin Laden: Bush doesn't care!
36 posted on 10/26/2004 8:42:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: icecold

If all this seems so confusing (one main stream media debunking another main stream media's story), just remember one thing. Kerry is not suppose to win.

The only way Kerry's campaign makes sense is to understand he is not in this to win, but to weaken the President and by extension the Republican party.

The Democrats are not stupid, misguided perhaps, but not stupid. They know that a liberal senator has little chance in winning a national election. If you look at the most recent history, the Democratic candidate always attempts to move to the center and present himself if not a conservative, at least as a moderate.

Kerry, if anything has moved further to the left. He has had close to thirty years to put his Viet Nam baggage away. A few speeches at a VFW convention where he admited he was wrong would have gone a long way to inoculate him from things such as the Swift Boat Vets ads, but he never did, and in fact he stands by his actions.

Instead of being against the war, he could have tried to be more of a hawk, sure he would have lost some on his extreme left, but would have picked up some of the mushy middle.

But by indicating he would turn over the security of the US to the UN he makes it difficult for some Democrats to vote for him (they may be socialist, but they have families and loved ones, and they understand that the UN can not protect themselves, let alone the US, even if they wanted to, which they don't.)

No, when the history of this election is written, it will be one of motivation, what was the motivation of John Kerry to run?


37 posted on 10/26/2004 8:43:32 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: icecold

When the CBS/memogate affair occured a few weeks ago a number of people (including here)indicated it was Karl Rove at work, I laughed it appeared so ludicrous. Now with this one, it would not surprise me if Rove is doing these tricks and I love it. October surprise indeed.


38 posted on 10/26/2004 8:45:22 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: ohioGOP

This is the e-mail I just sent to the NY Slimes--


>>Ms. Abramson-

I'm beginning to believe that your paper and CBS NEWS would be better off reporting in the old soviet Union.

Freedom of the press does not mean freedom to lie-to make up stories.

Do you not check facts before publishing articles any longer?

If you had you would have known that your "big" story yesterday about the failure to secure weapons in Iraq was not true.

Unfortunately for you there were imbedded reporters during the push into Iraq, that totally refute your claims.

Gee-one might think you were partisan, and trying to throw the election to John Kerry!<<


39 posted on 10/26/2004 8:45:48 AM PDT by sissyjane (Silk pajamas for dress up, and flannel for everyday-perfect Freeper wardrobe!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sounds right, the MSM is in a meltdown.


40 posted on 10/26/2004 8:46:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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