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Has Kerry Lied about Annulment, Too?
WorldNetDaily ^ | April 10, 2004 | Les Kinsolving

Posted on 10/26/2004 7:53:41 AM PDT by CitizenM

"This week's issue of Time magazine (April, 2004) says Sen. John Kerry 'sought an annulment of his 18-year first marriage before marrying again.' News reports indicate, however, that Kerry didn't seek an annulment until after he married Teresa Heinz in a civil ceremony in 1995. Today's New York Times says Kerry 'sought an annulment from the church when he was divorced from his first wife.' Notice that neither Time nor the New York Times says that an annulment was granted. They say it was 'sought.'

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: annulment; catholic; catholics; divorce; juliathorne; kerry; kerrylies; lies; lying; teresaheinz
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To: nmh
With this view of wiping out the "marriage" then the children would be ILLegitimate since his first marriage in the Catholic church is not deemed legitimate hence neither would his children be then.

But legitamacy is not a concept in Church law. So how would it make an opinion on whether the children are "legitamate" or not.

21 posted on 10/26/2004 8:44:43 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for a mistake....a PR mistake" H. Hewitt show)
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To: CitizenM

This is another scandal of the Catholic Church. As a Catholic, I cannot understand how an annulment can be granted after 18 years and two children.

I take comfort in the promise that "the gates of hell shall not prevail against it"


22 posted on 10/26/2004 8:46:28 AM PDT by FatherofFive
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To: Living Free in NH
Can I call them BASTARDS anyway?

Knock yourself out.

23 posted on 10/26/2004 8:46:39 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for a mistake....a PR mistake" H. Hewitt show)
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To: Living Free in NH
Can I call them BASTARDS anyway?

No because that is an offense against Christian charity and is not true so it would be 'bearing false witness'.

The Church has always held that the kids are not responsible for the stupidity of their parents (in a marriage situation).

The Kerry kids are what they are, that's punishment enough.

24 posted on 10/26/2004 8:50:38 AM PDT by pbear8 (We pray for a landslide)
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To: nmh
"From what I gather from Catholics an annulment wipes out the legitimacy of the marriage and it is "anulled". With this view of wiping out the "marriage" then the children would be ILLegitimate since his first marriage in the Catholic church is not deemed legitimate hence neither would his children be then."

To the unintiatied, it all sounds like a joke, as, frankly, does much of Catholicism in the U.S. today.

25 posted on 10/26/2004 8:52:06 AM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (I suck at my current job, so PROMOTE me. - Peter-Principle Kerry)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Then is he a bigamist?


26 posted on 10/26/2004 8:53:18 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Texas Songwriter)
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To: CitizenM

I saw the Kerry girls on Larry King last night. Larry didn't ask them how they felt about their Dad making them bastards through the annulment from their Mother.


27 posted on 10/26/2004 8:54:12 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: FatherofFive
As a Catholic, I cannot understand how an annulment can be granted after 18 years and two children.

Because we have too many swishops and not enough bishops right now.

Remember the victory has already been won and we remain faithful to Jesus and the gift of the authentic teaching HE did leave to us. Educate yourself and ignore the Protestants and atheists masquerading as Catholics.

28 posted on 10/26/2004 8:55:33 AM PDT by pbear8 (We pray for a landslide)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Then is he a bigamist?

Not in the eyes of the state, but in the eyes of the Church, if he has no valid annulment, then he is still married to Julia and is living in sin with Theresa.

29 posted on 10/26/2004 8:57:12 AM PDT by pbear8 (We pray for a landslide)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Are the Kerry girls thus spiritually illegitimate? If Kerry frauds his way into the White House, would Teresa be the nation's spiritual First Shack?


30 posted on 10/26/2004 8:59:58 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Vote Kerry: The Space Needle is an eyesore anyway.)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

I'm not sure what it is to be spiritually illegitimate. Everyone is spiritually legitimate because everyone is created by God.


31 posted on 10/26/2004 9:05:46 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: CitizenM

How can you get an annulment after you get a divorce? An annulment basically says the marriage never happened while a divorce says the marriage happened but went sour. So Kerry is trying to say his marriage never happened after he's already admitted that it DID happen? Sounds like a pretty typical Kerry flip-flop.


32 posted on 10/26/2004 9:23:25 AM PDT by twhitak
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To: pbear8
The Church has always held that the kids are not responsible for the stupidity of their parents (in a marriage situation).

The Kerry kids are what they are, that's punishment enough.

I give you STUPIDITY...


33 posted on 10/26/2004 9:24:54 AM PDT by Living Free in NH (Where am I and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: FatherofFive

As a Catholic, I see it as a quick and easy way to fatten the coffers. The way city hall uses parking tickets.


34 posted on 10/26/2004 9:29:57 AM PDT by CaptainK
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To: Living Free in NH

There, I see you understand the situation completely.


35 posted on 10/26/2004 9:32:15 AM PDT by pbear8 (We pray for a landslide)
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To: CitizenM
There is some dispute concerning whether an annulment was ever granted. Kerry asked for one in 1997, but he and his campaign have never confirmed that it was granted. Check this out from April 9, 2004.

Living in Sin? HUMAN EVENTS reported last week that Sen. John Kerry (D.-Mass.), who says he is a practicing Catholic, may have problems with his church over the issues of abortion and gay marriage as he seeks the presidency. But there may be more trouble ahead. According to news reports in Time and the New York Times, Catholic League president William Donahue pointed out in an April 2 news release, Kerry's second marriage in 1995 to ketchup heiress Teresa Heinz took place before Kerry had sought an annulment of his first 18-year marriage. It is not known whether this annulment was actually granted, and Kerry has not confirmed or denied it.

"If Kerry did not receive an annulment, then he is not married in the Catholic Church and cannot receive the sacraments," said Donahue. "But even if he was annulled, did he and Teresa Heinz get married in the Catholic Church following the annulment? If not, then Kerry is not married in the Church, thus raising all sorts of questions." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution tried to find the answer in February, but reported that "Kerry's office didn't respond to several e-mail and telephone requests" regarding whether he got an annulment. The Providence Journal-Bulletin wrote on March 23 that Kerry "will not say whether he obtained an annulment of his first marriage."

37 posted on 10/26/2004 9:39:35 AM PDT by kabar
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To: intolerancewillNOTbetolerated

"To the unintiatied, it all sounds like a joke, as, frankly, does much of Catholicism in the U.S. today."

I'm a Bible based Christian and there is NO allowance for an "annulment" but divorce is permitted under certain situations. An "annulment" is not Biblical.


38 posted on 10/26/2004 9:55:54 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Conservative Infidel

An "annulment" is not Biblical however a divorce is permitted under certain circumstances.


39 posted on 10/26/2004 9:56:48 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: kabar

This is all very disturbing. Kerry may not want to abide by the laws of Catholicism, that is his right - but the clergy of the Catholic Church has to. So, my additional question(s) is: Why - (1) if the marriage was not annuled, (2)if he was never married Teresa in a Catholic ceremony (a Sacrament of Marriage), and since (3) he is openly pro-abortion - do they allow him to receive Communion or even attend Mass? He should be ex-communicated. Yet he professes to be Catholic. One of these infractions removes one from the right to receiving the Sacraments - but Kerry has committed three. It does not matter that he finds a way to justify them. What matters is why the Church is allowing it.


40 posted on 10/26/2004 9:58:10 AM PDT by CitizenM
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