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The American Conservative ^ | November 8, 2004 issue | Scott McConnell

Posted on 10/25/2004 4:29:44 PM PDT by Tuttle

Kerry’s the One

By Scott McConnell

There is little in John Kerry’s persona or platform that appeals to conservatives. The flip-flopper charge—the centerpiece of the Republican campaign against Kerry—seems overdone, as Kerry’s contrasting votes are the sort of baggage any senator of long service is likely to pick up. (Bob Dole could tell you all about it.) But Kerry is plainly a conventional liberal and no candidate for a future edition of Profiles in Courage. In my view, he will always deserve censure for his vote in favor of the Iraq War in 2002.

But this election is not about John Kerry. If he were to win, his dearth of charisma would likely ensure him a single term. He would face challenges from within his own party and a thwarting of his most expensive initiatives by a Republican Congress. Much of his presidency would be absorbed by trying to clean up the mess left to him in Iraq. He would be constrained by the swollen deficits and a ripe target for the next Republican nominee.

It is, instead, an election about the presidency of George W. Bush. To the surprise of virtually everyone, Bush has turned into an important president, and in many ways the most radical America has had since the 19th century. Because he is the leader of America’s conservative party, he has become the Left’s perfect foil—its dream candidate. The libertarian writer Lew Rockwell has mischievously noted parallels between Bush and Russia’s last tsar, Nicholas II: both gained office as a result of family connections, both initiated an unnecessary war that shattered their countries’ budgets. Lenin needed the calamitous reign of Nicholas II to create an opening for the Bolsheviks.

Bush has behaved like a caricature of what a right-wing president is supposed to be, and his continuation in office will discredit any sort of conservatism for generations. The launching of an invasion against a country that posed no threat to the U.S., the doling out of war profits and concessions to politically favored corporations, the financing of the war by ballooning the deficit to be passed on to the nation’s children, the ceaseless drive to cut taxes for those outside the middle class and working poor: it is as if Bush sought to resurrect every false 1960s-era left-wing cliché about predatory imperialism and turn it into administration policy. Add to this his nation-breaking immigration proposal—Bush has laid out a mad scheme to import immigrants to fill any job where the wage is so low that an American can’t be found to do it—and you have a presidency that combines imperialist Right and open-borders Left in a uniquely noxious cocktail.

During the campaign, few have paid attention to how much the Bush presidency has degraded the image of the United States in the world. Of course there has always been “anti-Americanism.” After the Second World War many European intellectuals argued for a “Third Way” between American-style capitalism and Soviet communism, and a generation later Europe’s radicals embraced every ragged “anti-imperialist” cause that came along. In South America, defiance of “the Yanqui” always draws a crowd. But Bush has somehow managed to take all these sentiments and turbo-charge them. In Europe and indeed all over the world, he has made the United States despised by people who used to be its friends, by businessmen and the middle classes, by moderate and sensible liberals. Never before have democratic foreign governments needed to demonstrate disdain for Washington to their own electorates in order to survive in office. The poll numbers are shocking. In countries like Norway, Germany, France, and Spain, Bush is liked by about seven percent of the populace. In Egypt, recipient of huge piles of American aid in the past two decades, some 98 percent have an unfavorable view of the United States. It’s the same throughout the Middle East.

Bush has accomplished this by giving the U.S. a novel foreign-policy doctrine under which it arrogates to itself the right to invade any country it wants if it feels threatened. It is an American version of the Brezhnev Doctrine, but the latter was at least confined to Eastern Europe. If the analogy seems extreme, what is an appropriate comparison when a country manufactures falsehoods about a foreign government, disseminates them widely, and invades the country on the basis of those falsehoods? It is not an action that any American president has ever taken before. It is not something that “good” countries do. It is the main reason that people all over the world who used to consider the United States a reliable and necessary bulwark of world stability now see us as a menace to their own peace and security.

These sentiments mean that as long as Bush is president, we have no real allies in the world, no friends to help us dig out from the Iraq quagmire. More tragically, they mean that if terrorists succeed in striking at the United States in another 9/11-type attack, many in the world will not only think of the American victims but also of the thousands and thousands of Iraqi civilians killed and maimed by American armed forces. The hatred Bush has generated has helped immeasurably those trying to recruit anti-American terrorists—indeed his policies are the gift to terrorism that keeps on giving, as the sons and brothers of slain Iraqis think how they may eventually take their own revenge. Only the seriously deluded could fail to see that a policy so central to America’s survival as a free country as getting hold of loose nuclear materials and controlling nuclear proliferation requires the willingness of foreign countries to provide full, 100 percent co-operation. Making yourself into the world’s most hated country is not an obvious way to secure that help.

I’ve heard people who have known George W. Bush for decades and served prominently in his father’s administration say that he could not possibly have conceived of the doctrine of pre-emptive war by himself, that he was essentially taken for a ride by people with a pre-existing agenda to overturn Saddam Hussein. Bush’s public performances plainly show him to be a man who has never read or thought much about foreign policy. So the inevitable questions are: who makes the key foreign-policy decisions in the Bush presidency, who controls the information flow to the president, how are various options are presented?

The record, from published administration memoirs and in-depth reporting, is one of an administration with a very small group of six or eight real decision-makers, who were set on war from the beginning and who took great pains to shut out arguments from professionals in the CIA and State Department and the U.S. armed forces that contradicted their rosy scenarios about easy victory. Much has been written about the neoconservative hand guiding the Bush presidency—and it is peculiar that one who was fired from the National Security Council in the Reagan administration for suspicion of passing classified material to the Israeli embassy and another who has written position papers for an Israeli Likud Party leader have become key players in the making of American foreign policy.

But neoconservatism now encompasses much more than Israel-obsessed intellectuals and policy insiders. The Bush foreign policy also surfs on deep currents within the Christian Right, some of which see unqualified support of Israel as part of a godly plan to bring about Armageddon and the future kingdom of Christ. These two strands of Jewish and Christian extremism build on one another in the Bush presidency—and President Bush has given not the slightest indication he would restrain either in a second term. With Colin Powell’s departure from the State Department looming, Bush is more than ever the “neoconian candidate.” The only way Americans will have a presidency in which neoconservatives and the Christian Armageddon set are not holding the reins of power is if Kerry is elected.

If Kerry wins, this magazine will be in opposition from Inauguration Day forward. But the most important battles will take place within the Republican Party and the conservative movement. A Bush defeat will ignite a huge soul-searching within the rank-and-file of Republicandom: a quest to find out how and where the Bush presidency went wrong. And it is then that more traditional conservatives will have an audience to argue for a conservatism informed by the lessons of history, based in prudence and a sense of continuity with the American past—and to make that case without a powerful White House pulling in the opposite direction.

George W. Bush has come to embody a politics that is antithetical to almost any kind of thoughtful conservatism. His international policies have been based on the hopelessly naïve belief that foreign peoples are eager to be liberated by American armies—a notion more grounded in Leon Trotsky’s concept of global revolution than any sort of conservative statecraft. His immigration policies—temporarily put on hold while he runs for re-election—are just as extreme. A re-elected President Bush would be committed to bringing in millions of low-wage immigrants to do jobs Americans “won’t do.” This election is all about George W. Bush, and those issues are enough to render him unworthy of any conservative support.


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To: Cultural Jihad

I win.


141 posted on 10/25/2004 8:04:45 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Godebert

Are you really advocating deporting anyone who doesn't agree with you and might not have been born within the Continental US? Well, at least you haven't suggested public executions . . . yet.


142 posted on 10/25/2004 8:06:43 PM PDT by Laurita (There are no boys, girls or baby goats in the US military.)
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To: Godebert

You won what...the doom&gloom/one issue of the day award?


143 posted on 10/25/2004 8:07:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Tuttle
"If you're offended by any of the above, you ought to reconsider if you're a true conservative."


Come out into the sunlight, leave your dated box behind. Clintonism is what is being dismantled and the fellow travelers of the world know their global plans are being torn down brick by brick.
144 posted on 10/25/2004 8:10:49 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Godebert

I'm a legal immigrant. I've been here for 4 years, after waiting another 11 in order to enter legally. I'm a conservative.

And you have your head firmly stuck up your ass!!!


145 posted on 10/25/2004 8:19:29 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: El Conservador; Godebert
I knew he won something. ;-)
146 posted on 10/25/2004 8:21:46 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: nopardons
"REAL CONSERVATISM"? Is that anything at all resembling reality,or just your own wee delusions?

Conservatism to me means adhering to the limits on government contained in the constitution. If that is not what you believe conservatism to be than we will simply have to disagree.

While I admire the President's focus on defense and on tax cuts his reluctance to take on, or even embrace, government spending is disconcerting. Mr Bush does not seem to regard government as the problem as Mr Reagan did. He doesn't seem to mind a growing federal government he just wants it to grow slower than the liberals do. That is boiling the frog.

147 posted on 10/25/2004 8:28:25 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: nopardons
No,that is NOT what Jim Robinson says about this president at all!

I never made mention of Jim's views on the President but rather that he has said he views electing Republicans to be more important that standing firm for conservatism.

148 posted on 10/25/2004 8:31:07 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: Tuttle
You anger the Viking Kitty god of Mount Kittymanjaro...


149 posted on 10/25/2004 8:32:44 PM PDT by baseballfanjm
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To: Straight Vermonter
I suggest that you take some time out and actually read up on EXACTLY what President Reagan did during both of his terms in the White House.He did absolutely nothing to cut government down to size.He talked the talk,but when it came to walking the walk,President Bush has managed to do far more than Reagan did,whilst fighting a world wide war on terrorism to boot.There has been posted,on many threads,this president's CONSERVATIVE accomplishments,during his first term in office.I suggest that you start there and then go read about Reagan,without the rose colored glasses on.

That's an awfully limited definition of "conservatism",you posted as an answer and personal attacks on mine own Conservatism added at the end,is still an insult/flame,dear.Perhaps it is you,who isn't quite on the same page,as most people,including Jim,as to what conservatism is.:-)

As to frogs....that hackneyed expression,even in part,is overused here,by people who've done less than nothing to stop that boil,for decades.Wanna try this again? LOL

150 posted on 10/25/2004 8:51:38 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Straight Vermonter

Ahhhhhhhhhhh...but we WERE talking about this president,not about some amorphous "others"! :-)


151 posted on 10/25/2004 8:52:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Tuttle

Trick or friggin' treat, A-hole.


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152 posted on 10/25/2004 8:57:13 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: nopardons
I suggest that you take some time out and actually read up on EXACTLY what President Reagan did during both of his terms in the White House.He did absolutely nothing to cut government down to size.

I know exactly what Mr Reagan did during his administration with a democratic majority in the House and a GOP Senate for only part of his term. He got the ball rolling. He expected others to pick up where he left off. Newt ran with the ball for a while, who is the standard bearer now? Mixed mataphor but you get the point.

He talked the talk,but when it came to walking the walk,President Bush has managed to do far more than Reagan did,whilst fighting a world wide war on terrorism to boot.

Reagan had to fight a cold war. Maybe you have forgotten. :)In order to do so he had to horse trade with the Democrats. Did he get everything he wanted? Of course not. Do you think he believed in cutting government more? As you said he certainly talked the talk. Does the current president talk the talk? Do you think he really believes in smaller government? I'd like it to be so but I just haven't seen the evidence. Show me the evidence and change my mind.

That's an awfully limited definition of "conservatism",you posted as an answer and personal attacks on mine own Conservatism added at the end,is still an insult/flame,dear.

Would you please explain how I attacked your conservatism? I politely said that we may simply disagree with what conservatism means.

As to frogs....that hackneyed expression,even in part,is overused here,by people who've done less than nothing to stop that boil,for decades.

What would you have me do????

153 posted on 10/25/2004 9:20:34 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: Tuttle
...parallels between Bush and Russia’s last tsar, Nicholas II...
ARE YOU CRAZY?
Centuries of absolute rule over a destitute population results in the bolshevic revolution is similar to a President that responds to a surprise attack on the most democratic country in the world?
The contents of your post display a level of arrogance which is more befitting a LIBERAL than a conservative :
1)Iraqis do not have enough self respect to "deserve" democracy.
2)The poor use all their money buying drugs.
3)Deport all the people that have immigrated here over the last 10 years (legal or not)....
The nonsense in these ideas is what the left loves to attribute to all conservatives when in reality it is the extreme views of a marginal group on the right. Views that are just as loony as what one gets on the extreme left. And then you top it off with a lecture...If you're offended by any of the above, you ought to reconsider if you're a true conservative...THANK YOU MR. JUDGE! I don't know what we FReepers have been doing all these years without you to tell us what and how we should think. Go away. We are obviously not ..Your kind of people.
154 posted on 10/25/2004 9:33:50 PM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: UltraKonservativen

He's dead, Jim.


155 posted on 10/25/2004 9:34:14 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Straight Vermonter
At least you aren't suffering from the mythologized Reagan complex.GOODY! :-)

The Cold War was quite different from actual attacks on American soil.Having lived through both,I think that Reagan had the easier time of it,but no,I am NOT denigrating what Reagan did or said.I'm just saying that both presidents were/are conservatives.And President Bush has done many more conservative things,than Reagan did in his first term.

Please don't use Newtie as an exemplar.He was very good,for a while,but ended up being spineless and a caver. I used to really like him,but truth be told,he also harmed the Conservative movement,in the end.

Lest you forget,though President Bush supposedly has a GOP majority in the Senate,it really isn't one and Frist is one of THE all time WORST majority leaders of all time.

Who is the Conservative standard bearer? PRESIDENT BUSH;THAT'S WHO!

You want "evidence"? Again,I suggest that you read the very long list,compiled by a few FREEPERS,on his accomplishments;actual accomplishments,not just words.

What would I have had YOU do? Why fight it all,as I did and still do! At just 23,I debated and completely shattered a RED DIAPER BABY's world view,in the belly of the beast...Greenwich Village. I FREEPED,solo,long before there was such a term or this site.I wrangled against hippies/anti-war protesters in the streets,and I've tirelessly given time,money,and effort to help elect Conservatives for almost my entire life.I've also raised a CONSERVATIVE child,who is now married to a Conservative and they'll produce Conservative kiddos.There's lots of things we all can do,to stop the frog effect.

I don't support,with money,any lefties. Do you? Even my doctors and dentists and the man who fixes my appliances,when the break,are Conservatives,and I don't go to the movies,nor buy books written by liberals.

156 posted on 10/25/2004 9:52:15 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I don't support,with money,any lefties. Do you? Even my doctors and dentists and the man who fixes my appliances,when the break,are Conservatives,and I don't go to the movies,nor buy books written by liberals.

I drive my wife CRAZY with this stuff. Try doing business in Vermont without dealing with lefties. Not so easy. As to your FReeping in the Village I can certainly feel for you as I wage my personal war against leftism every day here behind the Maple Curtain.

When I first joined FR I could have an argument on the nature of conservatism or the meaning of the "neccesary and proper clause" or some other such thing all of the time. Now it seems to me like this place has become to much of a cheering section for the GOP.

Remember the Buchananites and the McCainites on here? They did not win the debates on here because their ideas were wrong. Doesn't it help our cause by rounding out our ideas by having these debates? That was really my point in my original post even if I put it ineloquently.

So thanks for the debate, hopefully Jim won't boot me. LOL!

157 posted on 10/25/2004 10:23:10 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: Tuttle

"Israel-Palestine: All our terrorism problems stem from this support and no amount of democracy in the Mideast will change this."

Then what about terrorism in Russia, Kosovo, Spain, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Philippines, Sudan, etc.?

None of those places where muslims commit terror have anything to do with Israel/palestinian issue.

Those locales prove islam as an institution is hellbent to move as far as allowed, having no tie to the issue of Israel's existence or borders.

These "true" conservatives are Neville Chamberlain revisited.


158 posted on 10/25/2004 10:30:03 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: itsamelman

Damn frightful kitty!


159 posted on 10/25/2004 10:34:39 PM PDT by CaptSkip (Dan the NewsMan says, "Karma sucks, but Nixonian Karma?...that's a B*tch!")
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To: Straight Vermonter
My mother,a born and bred New Yorker,indoctrinated me,as a teen,into the world of boycotting lefties.Try doing it in Manhattan!Hey,try doing this in Chicago,where we lived for 17 years.LOL

My husband is as big a Conservative as I am,so I get no quibbles at home.:-)

I've been a member of FR for two years longer than you and three,if you count my just lurking time.It takes a whole lot more,than what you posted,to get my abuse button finger "itchy".I think that everyone's nerves are just a bit frayed now,due to the troll infestation and our wish for this election to be over with.

160 posted on 10/25/2004 10:35:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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