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Generation X
www.geocities.com/chrysler813/Generations.html ^ | October 23, 2004 | Curtis Ryan Baginski

Posted on 10/23/2004 8:02:06 AM PDT by Chrysler813

I'm tired of Liberals trying to move the dates of Generation X. The only reason they push the ending date back into the 70s is to make Bush looke bad.

The smaller Generation X is the harder it will be for us to support the Baby Boomers. And the harder it is the worse a problem George Bush has created.

I've heard many Generation Xers very upset that they get lumped into the "Boomer" Generation (again to make them look bigger & us smaller)

And on the other end, some people try to push the ending date up. I've heard 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979 & 1980.

The real dates are 1962 - 1981. Believe me I spent over A YEAR researching this stuff!!!

That makes 70 million Gen Xers & 63 million Baby Boomers (1946 - 1961)

Don't get me wrong, we still got a problem. In 2011 the Baby Boomers will start retiring. When Roosevelt (AKA: America's Socialist King) started Social Security there were 30 working people to 1 retired person. With 70 million to 63 million it's ALMOST 1 to 1

And on top of that we got Generation Y in the workforce (1982 - )

But don't listen to the Liberals: the REAL dates 4 Generation X are 1962 - 1981.


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To: wardaddy
BUT....we shall see soon enough won't we?.....but it still won't mean squat...just something to bullshite about.

*LOL* That's really what it comes down to, yep. ;-)

Putting aside the generation quibbling, I suppose I just don't understand why conservatives aren't eager to get rid of SS, at least. President Bush's proposal to "privatize" part of SS is (at best) a start, but it's like using a bucket to stop a tsunami.

Check out these stats from a recent USA Today article, The looming national benefit crisis, on what will need to happen if the entitlements continue unchecked:

USA TODAY used official government numbers to compute what the burden means to the average American household. To pay the obligations of federal, state and local government:

• All federal taxes would have to double immediately and permanently. A household earning $100,000 a year would see its federal taxes double from an average of about $20,000 to $40,000 a year. All state taxes would have to increase 20% immediately and permanently.

• Or, benefits for Social Security, Medicare and government pensions would have to be slashed in half immediately and permanently. Social Security checks would be cut from an average of $1,500 per month for couples to $750. Military pensions would drop from an average of $1,782 per month to $891. Medicare spending would fall from $7,500 to $3,750 annually per senior. The Medicare prescription-drug benefit enacted last year would be canceled.

•Or, a combination of tax hikes and benefit cuts — such as a 50% increase in taxes and a 25% reduction in benefits — would avoid the extremes but still require painful changes that are outside the scope of today's political debate. Savings also could come in the form of price controls on prescription drugs, raising retirement ages and limiting benefits to the affluent.

Every solution has the potential to damage the economy by reducing disposable income or diverting economic resources.

These are things that have to be taken off the back burner, yesterday. Did you know SS and Medicare combined account for about 50% of all federal spending? That's not sustainable. Either we grandfather those programs out or we become like socialist Europe.
61 posted on 10/23/2004 11:49:38 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader
Did you know SS and Medicare combined account for about 50% of all federal spending?

No, I did not. I remember when defense was the big ticket followed by the Interstate system....guess my info is a bit dated.

62 posted on 10/23/2004 11:55:12 PM PDT by wardaddy (handmaidens for everyone!)
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To: k2blader

63 posted on 10/24/2004 12:00:54 AM PDT by wardaddy (handmaidens for everyone!)
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To: wardaddy
The source I'm using, Social Security: A Primer, is a CBO report from 2001, but I can't imagine things are any better today.

They quote the percentage of total federal spending due to SS, Medicare, and Medicaid as 48.3% (scroll down to Table 1).

64 posted on 10/24/2004 12:04:58 AM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader

This is 2005....I guess W's WOT defense budget and the debt interest ate up the 50% down to 41% but that is still crazy.

Half our fed revenue going to entitlements is nuts.


65 posted on 10/24/2004 12:07:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (handmaidens for everyone!)
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To: wardaddy

Yep...


66 posted on 10/24/2004 12:08:00 AM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: antaresequity

You may be a Baby Boomer but that dosn't mean you have 2 act like them!!!

Stay in America!!! Vote 4 Bush & help us!!!


67 posted on 10/24/2004 12:37:40 AM PDT by Chrysler813
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To: qam1

Thank you 4 the reasearch!!! However did you know there were less births in 1981 then 1970? Check the National Center 4 Health Statistics if you don't believe me. 1970 is the heart of the Baby Bust. 1981 IS GENERATION X!!!

Respectfully submitted,

Curtis R. Baginski


68 posted on 10/24/2004 12:40:40 AM PDT by Chrysler813
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To: nickcarraway

Well being a Christian I don't believe in science. Science is man & God is so high above man!!!

U say Generation X is 62 - 96, well a generaion is parents, kids, grandkids, ect.

A Generation can't be only 7 years (unless you think 7 year old girls havin babies is normal)

Trust me, I'm a fellow Conservative, it's 62 - 81!!!


69 posted on 10/24/2004 12:43:35 AM PDT by Chrysler813
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To: dixiechick2000

I never said the Baby BOomers were responsible for all the problems in America.

I just created a webpage putting THOUSANDS of webpages about Geneartions scattered all over the internet in ONE webpage to make it easy.

I also put the official dates it took me A YEAR to find on my webpage

I'm a Generation Xer (1981) from your e-mail you sound like a Baby BOomer. Let's work together November 2 to reelect Bush!!!


70 posted on 10/25/2004 8:06:11 AM PDT by Chrysler813
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To: Chrysler813

I was born in '61 and always considered myself NOT a part of the Boomer generation, and all my friends are Xers. I didn't have to worry about the Vietnam draft (ended when I was 11), and numerous other things boomers consider their rite of passage, simply don't apply to me. If anything, Gen X should be expanded to 1960, not contracted to the '70s.


71 posted on 10/25/2004 8:12:51 AM PDT by AnalogReigns ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. ")
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To: AnalogReigns

I agree with you that the government dose stupid things sometimes BUT if they expand it to 1960 that'll leave the Baby Boomers 1946 - 1959 (only 13 years!!!)

A Generation is Kids, Parents, Grandparents, ect. so unless a 13 year old havin a kid is normal, 1960 CAN'T be Generation X Thats probably why it's 1962

Sorry that you're stuck with a label you don't want

I got lucky I was born in 1981 (Generation X) & I think, talk & act like a Generation Xer

Well the important thing is that we BOTH vote for Bush in 8 days!!!


72 posted on 10/25/2004 8:20:04 AM PDT by Chrysler813
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To: Chrysler813

"I never said the Baby BOomers were responsible for all the problems in America."



No, you didn't. But, others on this thread have.
This argument has been on FR since well before I got here. ;o)

I appreciate your efforts in putting so much information
on one page. And, I appreciate you taking the time to
do it.

I am a Boomer, and warmly welcome cooperation between
Boomers, Gen Xers, and Gen Yers to reelect President Bush.

Welcome to Free Republic!


73 posted on 10/25/2004 8:21:18 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: oblomov; Chrysler813
This argument is quite interesting. Indeed the dates do keep moving and sometimes these idiots forget that a generation is spawned from the previous one.

The boomer generation began after Pearl Harbor, not the end of the war. People thought differently after that incident. The end of the boomer era usually seen with the assasination of JFK, another incident in which changed mainstream thought in this country. The next cutoff would be the election of Reagan, but some argue it could go all the way to 1989 with the defeat of the Soviets and the fall of the Berlin wall.

74 posted on 10/25/2004 8:21:34 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: dixiechick2000

Thank you!!!


75 posted on 10/25/2004 8:22:52 AM PDT by Chrysler813
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To: KC_Conspirator

The Baby Boomer Generation starts with 46 cuase of the spike in births

1981 is part of Generation X becuase it's a part of the Baby Bust. 1982 was a spike in births so thats why it starts Generation Y

But we can all think whatever we want about this cuase our fightin men (& women) have fought & died 4 that freedom


76 posted on 10/25/2004 8:25:26 AM PDT by Chrysler813
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To: Chrysler813

Well, I thought that the spark in births actually went up during the start of WWII because people actually had kids before they went off to war.


77 posted on 10/25/2004 8:30:18 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: Logophile
Logophile wrote: Stereotyping about Generation-This and Generation-That is based on the spurious idea that a person's beliefs, tastes, and preferences are determined primarily by his birth date. It is a way of setting one group of Americans against another, much like the Marxists' pernicious "theories" of class warfare.

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Yep, and is the only game some freepers know how to play.

78 posted on 10/25/2004 8:40:56 AM PDT by wtc911 (all zee children have mush!)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Are you from KC? My girlfriend is from Kansas City?


79 posted on 10/25/2004 5:06:28 PM PDT by Chrysler813
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To: KC_Conspirator

There was a "mini" spike in 1943 but not NEARLY the spike there was in 1946


80 posted on 10/25/2004 5:08:01 PM PDT by Chrysler813
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