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KERRY OPENS 5-POINT LEAD IN PA, QUINNIPIAC POLL FINDS SPECTER HAS BIG LEAD IN SENATE RACE
Quinnipiac ^ | 10/22/04

Posted on 10/22/2004 7:57:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone

Democratic challenger John Kerry has broken through the 50-percent mark among Pennsylvania likely voters and now holds a 51 - 46 percent lead over President George W. Bush, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

This compares to a 49 - 47 percent Kerry lead among likely voters in an October 12 poll by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN uh-pe-ack) University.

Despite Kerry's lead, Pennsylvania registered voters give Bush higher marks on presidential qualities, saying:
  • 50 - 44 percent that Bush acts more like a leader than Kerry, little changed from October 12;
  • 49 - 42 percent that Bush has done a better job explaining what he would do.
Among registered voters backing Bush, 77 percent say their vote is mainly for the President. Among Kerry supporters, 46 percent say their vote is pro-Kerry and 47 percent say they are voting mainly against Bush.

"Sen. Kerry, bolstered by his strong showing in the debates, has increased his lead slightly over President Bush in Pennsylvania, breaking through the 50-percent mark it takes to win. The shift comes as more people say the economy is the most important issue in the election - an issue voters say Kerry can handle better than Bush," said Clay F. Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

"The economy always has been the sleeper issue in Pennsylvania and it looks like pocketbook voters are beginning to wake up," Richards added.

Given four choices, 30 percent list the economy as the most important issue in the campaign, followed by 25 percent who list terrorism, 20 percent who list the war in Iraq, and 19 percent for health care.

Looking at which candidate does best on key issues, Pennsylvania voters say:
  • 53 - 40 percent that Kerry would do a better job on the economy;
  • 53 - 39 percent that Bush would do better on terrorism;
  • 49 - 43 percent that Bush would do better on the situation in Iraq;
  • 53 - 38 percent that Kerry would do better on health care.
Voters say 48 - 45 percent that going to war in Iraq was the wrong thing to do. Senate Race

Incumbent Republican Sen. Arlen Specter holds a 51 - 36 percent lead over U.S. Rep. Joseph Hoeffel, the Democratic challenger, among likely voters, with 6 percent for Constitution Party candidate Jim Clymer.

Pennsylvania registered voters give Sen. Specter a 35 - 16 percent favorability rating, with 34 percent mixed and 14 percent who don't know enough to form an opinion. For Rep. Hoeffel, 53 percent of voters don't know enough to form an opinion, unchanged from two weeks ago.

"Even with a third party candidate in the race, Sen. Specter gets 51 percent of the vote. At the same time, more than 50 percent still don't know enough about Rep. Hoeffel to form an opinion," Richards said.

From October 16 - 20, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,185 Pennsylvania registered voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.9 percentage points. The survey includes 841 likely voters with a margin of error of +/- 3.4 percentage points.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida and the nation as a public service and for research. For additional data -- www.quinnipiac.edu and quicklinks

TREND: If the election for president were being held today, and the candidates were John Kerry the Democrat and George W. Bush the Republican for whom would you vote? (If undecided q1) As of today, do you lean more to Kerry, or Bush? This table includes 'Leaners'.

                        Likely voters .......................
                                        Smone   Wldn't         
                        JK      GWB     Else    Vote    DK/NA  


Oct 22, 2004 51 46 - - 4 Oct 12, 2004 49 47 - - 4 Sep 28, 2004 49 46 1 - 4 Sep 16, 2004 48 49 - - 2



TREND: If the election for president were being held today, and the candidates were John Kerry the Democrat and George W. Bush the Republican, for whom would you vote? (Registered voters)

                                        Smone   Wldn't         
                        JK      GWB     Else    Vote    DK/NA  


Oct 22, 2004 47 41 - 1 10 Oct 12, 2004 46 42 - 1 10 Sep 28, 2004 46 41 1 1 11 Sep 16, 2004 44 47 1 2 7 Aug 18, 2004 48 43 1 2 6 Jul 14, 2004 49 42 1 1 7 Jun 24, 2004 49 43 2 1 5 May 27, 2004 45 42 2 2 9 Apr 21, 2004 42 46 2 2 7 Mar 17, 2004 45 44 3 - 7 Feb 18, 2004 50 45 1 1 3



TREND: If the election for president were being held today, and the candidates were John Kerry the Democrat, George W. Bush the Republican, and Ralph Nader the Independent for whom would you vote? (Registered voters)

                                                Smone   Wldn't         
                        JK      GWB     RN      Else    Vote    DK/NA


Oct 22, 2004 47 41 5 - - 7 Oct 12, 2004 46 43 3 - 1 7 Sep 28, 2004 46 42 4 - - 8 Sep 16, 2004 42 46 6 1 1 5 Aug 18, 2004 47 42 4 - 1 6 Jul 14, 2004 46 41 5 - 1 7 Jun 24, 2004 44 43 7 1 1 4 May 27, 2004 44 41 6 - 2 7 Apr 21, 2004 39 45 8 1 1 7 Mar 17, 2004 40 44 7 1 - 8



TREND: If the election for senator were being held today, and the candidates were Joseph Hoeffel the Democrat and Arlen Specter the Republican for whom would you vote? (If undecided) As of today, do you lean more to Hoeffel or Specter? This table includes 'Leaners'.

                        Likely Voters........................
                                        Smone   Wldn't         
                        JH      AS      Else    Vote    DK/NA  


Oct 22, 2004 37 55 1 - 6 Oct 12, 2004 36 55 1 - 7 Sep 28, 2004 37 56 1 1 5 Sep 16, 2004 38 54 1 1 6



TREND: If the election for senator were being held today, and the candidates were Joseph Hoeffel the Democrat and Arlen Specter the Republican for whom would you vote? (Registered voters)

                                        Smone   Wldn't         
                        JH      AS      Else    Vote    DK/NA  


Oct 22, 2004 34 52 1 1 12 Oct 12, 2004 33 51 1 2 14 Sep 28, 2004 33 52 1 1 13 Sep 16, 2004 33 51 1 1 14 Aug 18, 2004 33 48 1 2 15 Jul 14, 2004 36 51 1 2 10 Jun 24, 2004 35 50 1 2 13 May 27, 2004 37 49 1 2 11 Mar 18, 2004 29 45 3 3 20 Dec 17, 2003 32 50 1 2 14 Oct 15, 2003 33 50 2 2 13 Aug 7, 2003 29 53 2 2 15



TREND: Is your opinion of George W. Bush favorable, unfavorable, mixed, or haven't you heard enough about him?

                                                Hvn't
                        Fav     UnFav   Mixed   Hrd     Refused


Oct 22, 2004 39 40 20 1 1 Oct 12, 2004 39 40 18 1 2 Sep 28, 2004 36 40 21 1 1 Sep 16, 2004 42 40 17 1 - Aug 18, 2004 41 40 18 1 - Jul 14, 2004 39 42 18 1 - Jun 24, 2004 39 42 17 2 1 May 27, 2004 34 42 22 1 1 Apr 21, 2004 39 37 22 1 - Mar 17, 2004 41 36 21 1 1



TREND: Is your opinion of John Kerry favorable, unfavorable, mixed, or haven't you heard enough about him?
                                                Hvn't
                        Fav     UnFav   Mixed   Hrd     Refused 


Oct 22, 2004 37 34 25 3 1 Oct 12, 2004 38 33 23 4 2 Sep 28, 2004 35 33 27 4 1 Sep 16, 2004 34 36 25 5 1 Aug 18, 2004 37 31 25 7 - Jul 14, 2004 35 28 28 9 - Jun 24, 2004 33 30 29 8 1 May 27, 2004 32 27 31 10 1 Apr 21, 2004 24 31 27 17 - Mar 17, 2004 28 27 26 18 1



TREND: Is your opinion of Arlen Specter favorable, unfavorable, mixed, or havent't you heard enough about him?

                                                Haven't
                        Fav     Unfav   Mixed   heard   Ref


Oct 22, 2004 35 16 34 14 1 Oct 12, 2004 34 18 32 14 1 Sep 28, 2004 38 15 30 14 1 Sep 16, 2004 35 22 29 13 1 Aug 18, 2004 34 23 31 11 1 Jul 14, 2004 37 23 29 10 1 Jun 24, 2004 36 21 30 12 1 May 27, 2004 32 24 35 9 - Mar 18, 2004 35 24 30 9 1 Feb 18, 2004 41 22 28 9 - Dec 17, 2003 43 21 26 10 1 Oct 15, 2003 43 22 24 10 1 Aug 7, 2003 47 19 27 7 1 May 22, 2003 47 16 24 12 1 Apr 10, 2003 41 18 22 18 1 Feb 21, 2003 42 15 27 15 1



TREND: Is your opinion of Joseph Hoeffel favorable, unfavorable, mixed, or haven't you heard enough about him?

                                                Haven't
                        Fav     Unfav   Mixed   heard   Ref


Oct 22, 2004 18 12 17 53 1 Oct 12, 2004 15 8 17 58 2 Sep 28, 2004 18 8 14 58 1 Sep 16, 2004 15 7 12 65 1 Aug 18, 2004 13 9 11 66 2 Jul 14, 2004 12 7 14 66 1 Jun 24, 2004 10 7 9 73 1 May 27, 2004 13 7 11 68 1 Mar 18, 2004 10 6 14 70 1 Feb 18, 2004 12 3 9 76 1 Dec 17, 2003 13 4 11 72 1 Oct 15, 2003 11 4 10 74 - Aug 7, 2003 12 4 10 72 2



TREND: Do you think going to war with Iraq was the right thing for the United States to do or the wrong thing?

                        Right   Wrong   DK/NA


Oct 22, 2004 45 48 8 Oct 12, 2004 45 48 7 Sep 28, 2004 43 49 8 Sep 16, 2004 47 47 6 Aug 18, 2004 46 48 6 Jul 14, 2004 43 51 6 Jun 24, 2004 43 50 7 May 27, 2004 42 51 7 Apr 21, 2004 49 45 6 Mar 17, 2004 52 39 9



1. If the election for president were being held today, and the candidates were John Kerry the Democrat and George W. Bush the Republican for whom would you vote? (If undecided q1)As of today, do you lean more to Kerry or Bush? This table includes 'Leaners'.

                        Likely
                        Voters

Kerry 51% Bush 46 SMONE ELSE(VOL) - WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) - DK/NA 4



1. If the election for president were being held today, and the candidates were John Kerry the Democrat and George W. Bush the Republican for whom would you vote? (Registered voters)

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Kerry 47% 10% 79% 49% 43% 51% 42% Bush 41 81 11 34 45 38 46 SMONE ELSE(VOL) - - - 1 1 - 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 1 1 - 1 1 1 1 DK/NA 10 7 9 16 10 11 10

Alghny Philly NthEst SthEst NthWst SthWst Central

Kerry 49% 66% 50% 54% 44% 41% 35% Bush 33 23 39 39 43 47 52 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 - 1 - - 1 - WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) - 2 - 1 - 1 1 DK/NA 17 9 10 6 12 11 11

No Coll Coll PRES VOTE 2000 Degree Degree Lib Mod Con Gore Bush

Kerry 46% 50% 75% 52% 22% 84% 13% Bush 41 43 13 36 69 7 78 SMONE ELSE(VOL) - - - - - - - WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 1 - - 1 1 - - DK/NA 12 7 11 11 7 9 9

Age in years............... 18-34 35-49 50-64 65+

Kerry 56% 43% 47% 43% Bush 36 46 43 39 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 - - 1 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 1 1 - 2 DK/NA 6 10 11 16

Annual HsHold income......... <30 30-50 50-100 >100K

Kerry 55% 44% 47% 41% Bush 29 47 47 51 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 - - - WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 1 1 - - DK/NA 14 8 5 8



2. Is your mind made up, or do you think you might change your mind before the election?

                        Kerry   Bush
                        Vtr q1  Vtr q1

Made up 93% 93% Might change 5 7 DK/NA 1 -



3a. Is your vote more for Kerry or more against Bush?

                        Kerry   
                        Vtr q1  

For Kerry 46% Against Bush 47 DK/NA 7



3b. Is your vote more for Bush or more against Kerry?

                        Bush
                        Vtr q1

For Bush 77% Against Kerry 17 DK/NA 6



4. If the election for president were being held today, and the candidates were John Kerry the Democrat, George W. Bush the Republican, and Ralph Nader the Independent for whom would you vote? (If undecided q4)As of today, do you lean more to Kerry, Bush, or Nader? This table includes 'Leaners'.

                        Likely
                        Voters

Kerry 50% Bush 44 Nader 3 SMONE ELSE(VOL) - WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) - DK/NA 4



4. If the election for president were being held today, and the candidates were John Kerry the Democrat, George W. Bush the Republican, and Ralph Nader the Independent for whom would you vote? (Registered voters)

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Kerry 47% 10% 80% 46% 43% 50% 44% Bush 41 81 12 33 44 39 45 Nader 5 3 2 10 6 3 5 SMONE ELSE(VOL) - - - 1 - - 1 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) - - - - - - - DK/NA 7 5 6 10 7 8 5

Alghny Philly NthEst SthEst NthWst SthWst Central

Kerry 51% 62% 48% 52% 44% 38% 37% Bush 35 23 37 38 46 48 52 Nader 2 6 8 4 4 6 4 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 - - - - - - WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) - - - - - 1 - DK/NA 12 9 8 6 6 7 7

5. If the election for senator were being held today, and the candidates were Joseph Hoeffel the Democrat and Arlen Specter the Republican for whom would you vote? (If undecided q5)As of today, do you lean more to Hoeffel or Specter? This table includes 'Leaners'.

                        Likely
                        Voters

Hoeffel 37% Specter 55 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) - DK/NA 6



5. If the election for senator were being held today, and the candidates were Joseph Hoeffel the Democrat and Arlen Specter the Republican for whom would you vote? (Registered voters)

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Hoeffel 34% 7% 59% 31% 30% 37% 31% Specter 52 83 29 50 57 48 56 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 1 - 3 1 1 3 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 1 - 1 2 2 1 2 DK/NA 12 9 11 13 11 13 8

Alghny Philly NthEst SthEst NthWst SthWst Central

Hoeffel 40% 46% 44% 38% 32% 30% 20% Specter 41 42 44 51 50 56 66 SMONE ELSE(VOL) - 1 - 1 4 1 1 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 3 1 2 - - 2 2 DK/NA 16 10 9 11 14 11 11



6. If the election for senator were being held today, and the candidates were Joseph Hoeffel the Democrat, Arlen Specter the Republican, and Jim Clymer the Constitution Party candidate for whom would you vote? (If undecided q6)As of today, do you lean more to Hoeffel, Specter or Clymer? This table includes 'Leaners'.

                        Likely
                        Voters

Hoeffel 36% Specter 51 Clymer 6 SMONE ELSE(VOL) - WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) - DK/NA 7



6. If the election for senator were being held today, and the candidates were Joseph Hoeffel the Democrat, Arlen Specter the Republican, and Jim Clymer the Constitution Party candidate for whom would you vote? (Registered voters)

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Hoeffel 33% 6% 58% 29% 29% 36% 30% Specter 49 76 28 47 52 45 52 Clymer 5 8 1 10 7 4 9 SMONE ELSE(VOL) - - - - - - - WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 1 - - 1 1 - 1 DK/NA 13 9 13 12 11 14 8

Alghny Philly NthEst SthEst NthWst SthWst Central

Hoeffel 40% 42% 43% 37% 32% 27% 20% Specter 35 39 40 49 48 53 61 Clymer 6 4 4 5 7 8 5 SMONE ELSE(VOL) - - - - - - - WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 2 - 2 - - 1 1 DK/NA 18 15 10 9 13 10 13



7. Is your opinion of George W. Bush favorable, unfavorable, mixed, or haven't you heard enough about him?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Favorable 39% 76% 12% 28% 42% 35% 42% Unfavorable 40 8 67 43 37 42 40 Mixed 20 15 20 27 19 20 16 Hvn't hrd enough 1 - 1 1 1 1 2 REFUSED 1 1 - - 1 1 -



8. Is your opinion of John Kerry favorable, unfavorable, mixed, or haven't you heard enough about him?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Favorable 37% 9% 64% 33% 33% 41% 32% Unfavorable 34 67 9 30 38 30 41 Mixed 25 20 23 34 25 25 25 Hvn't hrd enough 3 3 2 2 3 3 2 REFUSED 1 - 1 - 1 1 -



9. Is your opinion of Joseph Hoeffel favorable, unfavorable, mixed, or haven't you heard enough about him?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Favorable 18% 6% 28% 18% 17% 18% 23% Unfavorable 12 22 4 13 13 11 14 Mixed 17 14 18 20 18 16 17 Hvn't hrd enough 53 58 49 47 53 53 45 REFUSED 1 1 1 1 - 2 1



10. Is your opinion of Arlen Specter favorable, unfavorable, mixed, or haven't you heard enough about him?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Favorable 35% 50% 26% 29% 36% 34% 43% Unfavorable 16 9 18 23 18 14 25 Mixed 34 33 38 31 34 35 24 Hvn't hrd enough 14 8 18 15 12 16 8 REFUSED 1 - 1 1 - 1 -



11. If you had to choose, which of the following issues will be most important to your vote for president -- the situation in Iraq, the economy, terrorism or health care?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Iraq 20% 16% 24% 21% 21% 20% 27% Economy 30 20 36 34 33 28 22 Terrorism 25 42 10 26 27 23 27 Health care 19 14 26 12 14 23 19 DK/NA 6 7 5 7 6 7 5



12. Regardless of how you intend to vote, who do you think would do a better job on health care, -- George W. Bush or John Kerry?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Bush 38% 73% 11% 32% 40% 36% 43% Kerry 53 17 83 56 51 54 48 DK/NA 10 10 7 12 9 10 9



13. Regardless of how you intend to vote, who do you think would do a better job on the economy, -- George W. Bush or John Kerry?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Bush 40% 77% 11% 35% 44% 36% 47% Kerry 53 15 85 55 50 56 47 DK/NA 7 8 4 10 6 8 6



14. Regardless of how you intend to vote, who do you think would do a better job on the situation in Iraq, -- George W. Bush or John Kerry?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Bush 49% 84% 20% 44% 54% 44% 51% Kerry 43 10 72 43 39 47 41 DK/NA 8 5 8 14 8 9 8



15. Regardless of how you intend to vote, who do you think would do a better job on terrorism, -- George W. Bush or John Kerry?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Bush 53% 87% 25% 51% 59% 48% 59% Kerry 39 8 66 37 34 43 34 DK/NA 8 5 9 12 7 9 7



16. Regardless of how you intend to vote, which candidate would you say acts more like a leader - John Kerry or George W. Bush?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Kerry 44% 11% 71% 48% 40% 46% 40% Bush 50 86 21 46 55 46 54 DK/NA 6 3 8 5 5 8 6



17. Regardless of how you intend to vote, which candidate would you say has done a better job making it clear what he would do if he were elected president - John Kerry or George W. Bush?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Kerry 42% 11% 69% 44% 37% 47% 35% Bush 49 84 22 45 57 43 54 DK/NA 9 6 8 11 7 10 10



18. How important were the Presidential debates to you in deciding how to vote for president - Very important, somewhat important, not too important, or not important at all?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Very important 33% 21% 41% 33% 27% 38% 24% Somewhat 33 33 35 35 34 33 35 Not too 17 24 11 14 19 15 18 Not at all 16 21 13 17 21 13 24 DK/NA 1 1 - 1 1 1 -



19. Do you think going to war with Iraq was the right thing for the United States to do or the wrong thing?

                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     Veteran


Right thing 45% 77% 20% 39% 49% 41% 56% Wrong thing 48 17 72 54 44 51 41 DK/NA 8 6 8 7 6 9 2


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1 posted on 10/22/2004 7:57:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

How's Quinnipiac's record?


2 posted on 10/22/2004 7:59:02 AM PDT by SmithL (Vietnam-era Vet: Still fighting Hillary's half-vast left-wing conspiracy)
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To: areafiftyone

Forget PA. We can take Michigan and New Jersey.


3 posted on 10/22/2004 7:59:49 AM PDT by RockinRight (Bush's rallies look like World Series games. Kerry's rallies look like Little League games.)
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To: areafiftyone

Bummer.


4 posted on 10/22/2004 8:00:21 AM PDT by smith288 (Teresa Heinz thinks stay at home moms arent "real" workers. Tell my wife that.)
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To: areafiftyone

So if these PA internals are accurate, voters are intentionally choosing the candidate who promises to do more for them personally (health, job) than the one they know will better defend this country and the world. How shitty.


5 posted on 10/22/2004 8:00:27 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: SmithL

They are okay - they are do not particularly lean left or right. I have a feeling that Kerry will win PA but not by much! Just the way the polls have been going.


6 posted on 10/22/2004 8:00:46 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: over3Owithabrain
So if these PA internals are accurate, voters are intentionally choosing the candidate who promises to do more for them personally (health, job) than the one they know will better defend this country and the world. How shitty.

Democracy at its finest. LOL

7 posted on 10/22/2004 8:01:38 AM PDT by smith288 (Teresa Heinz thinks stay at home moms arent "real" workers. Tell my wife that.)
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To: RockinRight
Forget PA. We can take Michigan and New Jersey.

Good grief. It's a five-point lead in one poll, and you're ready to abandon efforts in the state. I'm glad you're not in charge.

8 posted on 10/22/2004 8:02:08 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: areafiftyone

I live in Pennsylvania and there are often days when I hate this state. This is one of them.


9 posted on 10/22/2004 8:02:21 AM PDT by John Robertson
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To: areafiftyone
They should switch their state motto to: The Gimme Free Stuff State.

They want gubmint run healthcare and higher taxes on other people to pay for it.

10 posted on 10/22/2004 8:02:27 AM PDT by rudypoot (Kerry sold out the US for political gain before now and he is doing it again.)
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To: over3Owithabrain
So if these PA internals are accurate, voters are intentionally choosing the candidate who promises to do more for them personally (health, job) than the one they know will better defend this country and the world. How shitty.

We wouldn't HAVE a Democratic party if pandering to the worst in people didn't work.

11 posted on 10/22/2004 8:02:29 AM PDT by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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To: areafiftyone
Among Kerry supporters, 46 percent say their vote is pro-Kerry and 47 percent say they are voting mainly against Bush.

I'd bet a large portion of that 47% won't even bother to vote.

12 posted on 10/22/2004 8:02:42 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: over3Owithabrain

How shitty.


Your summation is appropriate....


13 posted on 10/22/2004 8:02:56 AM PDT by Two Dawgs
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To: smith288

PA is probably going to remain blue, unless we have an October surprise in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh, if you know what I mean.


14 posted on 10/22/2004 8:03:41 AM PDT by Jose Roberto
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To: areafiftyone

I was listening to the radio and the CNN radio news break reported on the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll giving Kerry the lead in Ohio and for the national results -- the AP/IPSOS poll, which is the only one that gives Kerry a lead.


15 posted on 10/22/2004 8:05:37 AM PDT by AmishDude (If I want on your ping list, I will ask you.)
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To: areafiftyone

Yes, the polls have been going that way and at least here in the pHilly suburbs, I see many more Kerry signs. But my husband heard on the radio yesterday that the primary concern of PA is terrorism and national security which bodes well for the president. We'll see. I just don't know. Sen. Santorum certainly sounded upbeat on Imus this morning about the state going for the president. He didn't even think the election as a whole was going to be that close. Internals?


16 posted on 10/22/2004 8:05:57 AM PDT by twigs
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To: VadeRetro

It's not the Dems, its their media.

Remember when the Pres signed those enormous spending bills, for ed and drugs, the media howled saying it was TOO expensive.

And polls showed that the public agreed.

BUT, if the Dem promise goodies, the media says "how sweet", and the public agrees.

The NY media is our enemy, the Dems can be defeated with fair coverage.


17 posted on 10/22/2004 8:07:34 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: areafiftyone

Q'piac leans left. They are very unreliable outside of NY/CT/NJ. They aren't terrible for election races in those states, but don't trust them for polls about "issues".


18 posted on 10/22/2004 8:08:02 AM PDT by AmishDude (If I want on your ping list, I will ask you.)
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To: RockinRight

Bush was in PA just yesterday. Also be aware that PA polls are often unreliable as it is so evenly split. Bush was campaigning in PA Dutch country yesterday, an area often ignored as the amish and mennonites rarely vote but may be a factor this round. Also this is the heart of PA sportsman country. These guys stayed home in 2000 and may have handed the state to Gore. Bush allowed the Assualt Weapons ban to lapse. Still time. If this result hold up next week then I would be worried


19 posted on 10/22/2004 8:08:35 AM PDT by Pharmer (How am I supposed to rule the world when I surrounded by freakin liberal idiots!)
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To: areafiftyone

Bush will win PA; Bush Campaign (national and local) has been working extremely hard in PA. Bush didn't lose PA by much last time ... especially considering Gore spent alot of time there and Bush basically had NO organization or local efforts in PA in the last month of the 2000 election.


20 posted on 10/22/2004 8:09:02 AM PDT by bluebeak (PA)
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