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Kerry's Biggest Secret
10-22-04 | Various

Posted on 10/22/2004 4:15:40 AM PDT by Always Right

FBI verifies Kerry at 'assassination summit' - WND, 3-24-04

Kerry camp hiring 'assassin'?
Man who plotted murder of congressmen offered job
- WND, 3-5-2004

HOW KERRY QUIT VETERANS GROUP AMID DARK PLOT When Talk Turned To Assassination He Exited, Vet Says  - The New York Sun, 3-13-04

Known Facts about Kerry and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW):

1.  Kerry lied about resigning in July 1971, presumably to cover-up the fact he was at the November 1971 meeting in Kansas City. 

2.  FBI files places Kerry in the meeting in Kansas City where plans were discussed to kill Senators and other politicians who were pro-war.

3. Kerry campaign admitted later Kerry was there, but claims Kerry does not remember it, and also claimed the FBI surveillance abused his civil liberties.

4. Witnesses say Kerry voted against the plot and then resigned.  (Hard to believe Kerry could not remember such an event)

5. Kerry campaign offered job to one of the men who plotted the murders.

 

Kerry hedges on 1971 KC meeting - The Sun Herald, 3-10-04

L.A. Times Overlooks Details of Kerry's FBI Record - Insight, 3-23-04

New Witness: Kerry Was Present at Dark Plot Meeting Group Debated and Voted Down Plan To Assassinate Senators - New York Sun, 3-15-04

KERRY RETREATS FROM HIS DENIAL ON VIETNAM MEET Evidence Puts Him At Kansas Parley - New York Daily Sun, 3-19-04

'71 anti-war session: Was Kerry in KC? - Kansas City Star, 3-13-04

The VVAW Plot Kerry Doesn’t Want You to Know About (from Unfit for Command)

From Chapter 8 of Unfit for Command:

At the VVAW steering committee meeting in Kansas City in November 1971, Florida regional coordinator Scott Camil brought up an assassination plan that he had first proposed during the April 1971 Dewey Canyon III event in Washington, D.C. Camil proposed that the VVAW assassinate a group of United States senators who supported the war, including Senator John Tower of Texas, Senator John Stennis of Mississippi, and Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina. Camil had termed his plan Operation Phoenix, calling to mind a CIA assassination program in Vietnam that had targeted Viet Cong leadership cadres.

Known as Scott the Assassin, Camil was a firebrand within the VVAW ranks. He advocated the creation of VVAW assassination squads who could emulate the CIA Phoenix Program in Vietnam. The idea, as proposed by Camil, was that the VVAW assassination squads would kill politicians who opposed ending the war, beginning with prominent senators. The problem for John Kerry and the other VVAW members present at the Kansas City meeting was that a conspiracy to commit murder may itself be a crime, whether or not any murder is actually committed. Camil had a well-known fascination with weapons, and his plot may have been more fantasy than reality. Still, those present listened to the proposal and even took a vote on it. Arguably, those present, including Kerry, had an obligation to report the proposed plot to authorities to avoid becoming complicit in a conspiracy to commit murder.

Investigative reporter Tom Lipscomb broke the VVAW assassination story in the New York Sun with a series of articles appearing in March 2004.1 When presented with the details of the assassination plot from the Kansas City meeting, his first reaction was to lie. A spokesperson for the Kerry presidential campaign simply denied that John Kerry had attended the meeting. Then Lipscomb found two VVAW members, Randy Barnes and Terry DuBoise, who had attended the meeting and were willing to go on record stating that they remembered Kerry being there.

Kerry’s recent biography, Tour of Duty, claimed that he had quit the VVAW on November 10, 1971, several days before the Kansas City assassination meeting, and that his resignation letter was at the VVAW archive in Madison, Wisconsin.2 The trouble was that nobody could find the November 10 resignation letter in the files. Finally, Tour of Duty author Douglas Brinkley admitted to Lipscomb that he did not have a copy of the letter in question; instead, he had been relying on Kerry’s own report that the letter existed. To date, no resignation letter has been located. When Lipscomb asked Brinkley who had told him that Kerry was a no-show at the Kansas City meeting, Brinkley’s response was that his source was Kerry himself.

At about the time the Kerry presidential campaign was denying that he had attended the Kansas City meeting, the FBI surveillance file on the VVAW and Kerry was beginning to be made available on the Internet. Previously, these records had been available only to Gerald Nicosia, the pro-Kerry writer and VVAW historian who had launched the original Freedom of Information Act request that led to the release of the documents.

As noted in the previous chapter, close inspection of the FBI reports indicates that Kerry was present at the Kansas City meeting as a member of the VVAW executive committee. The FBI reported that Kerry told the steering committee that he planned to resign from the executive committee, but that he would continue to speak for the VVAW and that his resignation from the executive committee would not take effect until a replacement for him had been selected. The FBI file was clear that Kerry was resigning only from the executive committee, not from the VVAW itself.

On Friday, March 19, 2004, writer Scott Canon published an article in the Kansas City Star that supported Lipscomb’s research. Canon’s article suggested that the Kerry campaign was backing away from its initial denial in light of the information in the FBI reports: “A statement Thursday by Kerry’s camp said the Massachusetts Democrat did not recall the meeting, although FBI surveillance material and the group’s archives clearly show that Kerry resigned from his national coordinator post at that November 1971 meeting.”3 Still, campaign spokesman David Wade tried to save face by advancing a barely believable statement: “John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting thirty-three years ago. John Kerry does recall the disagreements with elements of VVAW leadership. . . that led to his resignation. If there are valid FBI surveillance reports from credible sources that place some of those disagreements in Kansas City, we accept that historical footnote in the account of his work to end the difficult and divisive war.”

So, faced with documentary evidence to the contrary, the Kerry campaign quickly shifted ground. The denial that Kerry had attended the meeting was replaced with a convenient statement that he could not recall the meeting—besides, so what, the meeting was a footnote to history. Again the limits of credibility were stretched. This particular footnote to history evidently involved the consideration of a conspiracy to assassinate U. S. senators, something that most people would probably remember for the rest of their lives.

The Kansas City Star also reported that John Hurley, an organizer of veteran volunteers for Kerry’s presidential campaign, had called several former VVAW members to pressure them to change their stories about the assassination meeting, in particular, one John Musgrave of Baldwin City, Kansas. As the Star reported: “I asked him to be very sure of his recollection, not to change his recollection,” Hurley said. “I would apologize to John Musgrave if he thought in any way I was pressuring him.”4

If there was nothing to hide in this Kansas City meeting or in Scott Camil’s assassination plot, then why didn’t Kerry just tell the truth about the meeting from the start? That Kerry’s campaign continues to insist that he has no recollection of the meeting strongly suggests that there is more here that Kerry simply does not want the public to know.

 

 

 


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This is a huge story, but gets no MSM attention. A guy who could possibly be our next President was involved in a plot to murder US Senators and no one in the major media cares. Bush may have recieved preferential treatment to get into the reserves, huge MSM story. Kerry's group plots to kill Senators, complete silence. I just don't get it.
1 posted on 10/22/2004 4:15:41 AM PDT by Always Right
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2 posted on 10/22/2004 4:20:21 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
It has never been proved to me that Kerry got an honorable discharge. I think he got his discharge when Jimmy Carter gave the anti-Americans a pardon.p>
3 posted on 10/22/2004 4:23:10 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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4 posted on 10/22/2004 4:23:57 AM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: Always Right
"I just don't get it."

I'm sure you do, just like many thousands of us do.

We are, no doubt, simply dumbfounded that the old media is in league with the enemy Dimocrats.

Like the UN, France, (spit! ... spit!) Germany, and Russia, follow the money.

5 posted on 10/22/2004 4:24:52 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Always Right
I have heard about this about 6 months ago, it sounded to good to be true. I smell and October surprise. BUMP
6 posted on 10/22/2004 4:26:21 AM PDT by rightgrafix
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To: rightgrafix

This was news 6 months ago, but only to the New York Sun, WorldNetDaily, Kansas City Star, and American Spectator. I don't see the MSM running with this story now.


7 posted on 10/22/2004 4:29:54 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
The FBI files reveal that Kerry DID NOT resign at the November 1971 meeting, I repeat KERRY DID NOT RESIGN. Kerry only resigned from the Executive Committee, and continued to be a national leader and speaker for the VVAW for several more years. THere is no record that Kerry EVER resigned fromthe VVVAW.

Here is just some of the research I have done in the FBI files.

Several of my posting concerning John Kerry, VVAW and the FBI files.

John F. Kerry and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War VVAW, who did John Kerry work for? In reading the FBI files concerning John F. Kerry and the VVAW I find several instances where the VVAW is receiving money, directions, and non-monetary support from Communist Organizations in the USA, Europe, Soviet Union, France and Southeast Asia, as well as other countries. So, John Kerry worked for Communist Organizations attempting to overthrow the Government of the United States of America.

FBI Documents indicate that while John Kerry was with the VVAW, VVAW leaders met with KGB agents in the US. “VVAW collusion with foreign spies? “The Diplomatic List published by U.S. Department of State, in 1971 listed Grigoriy Sergeyvich Milhaylovskiy as an assistant Military Attache, Embassy of the U.S.S.R., Washington, D.C.”

Highlights of the FBI files and John Kerry, section 7 (October 1971)

Vietnam Veterans Against the War, John Kerry, FBI files Section 8 (Oct-Nov 1971)

Do the FBI Files concerning the VVAW (Kerry’s antiwar group) indicate a plot to assassinate Pres. Nixon?

Here is what I have found in the FBI files re: VVAW and John Kerry

John Kerry caused a fracture in VVAW for his own selfish goals (FBI Files reveal)

Kerry, Watergate: DNC Links Caused Break-in? (Kerry lied! Still with the VVAW after February 1972)

Lets watch the film of John Kerry and VVAW members throwing combat medals over the fence

Treat as Yellow – John Kerry’s VVAW coordinating with the North Vietnam Communist Government when US forces are under attack

VVAW leader meets with Communists to discuss tactics in the US antiwar movement. Kerry’s group!

Vietnam Veterans Against the War, John Kerry, FBI files Section 8 (Oct-Nov 1971)

8 posted on 10/22/2004 4:30:06 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: stockpirate

Looks like you have spent some time on this. I'll look through that stuff later. Good work.


9 posted on 10/22/2004 4:32:09 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Just goes to show the current Democrat mindset has not changed. Win at any cost, and the ends justify the means. sKerry will do and say anything to get elected because deep in his character he believes that the ends justify the means and that the only game in town is to win.


10 posted on 10/22/2004 4:33:03 AM PDT by AMHN
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To: Always Right

One more thing, some FBI documents state that the plan was NOT voted down, but only tabled until Feb. 1972 to be considered after being discussed with the VVAW membership as was the VVAW policy at the time.

And further they state that the plan was, "well recieved" by the members in attendence.


11 posted on 10/22/2004 4:36:50 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: stockpirate
The LA Times Mag did a piece called Veteran in Conflict. Glancing through it looks like it has some good info, although they sugar coated a lot of it.
12 posted on 10/22/2004 4:58:37 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
?This is a huge story, but gets no MSM attention.

And CERTAINLY no mention of this on FOX! Makes one wonder, doesn't it? It all boils down to the evil wanting the evil to run the Country. If our President loses this election, then I will be totally convinced of this.

The evil in America love evil, and they need a President that is going to BACK the evil.

13 posted on 10/22/2004 5:52:10 AM PDT by SheLion (PLEASE vote! We can't afford to be silent!!!! Do we really want FnKerry to run our Country?!)
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To: Always Right

So I was in a meeting about Assasinating Senators, So What?

/Sarcasm OFF

14 posted on 10/22/2004 6:18:50 AM PDT by sr4402
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15 posted on 10/22/2004 6:27:19 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: SheLion
And CERTAINLY no mention of this on FOX!

I am surprised Fox did not do more with this issue. No one ever even mentions it. It's more than some rumor, there are verified facts in this story.

16 posted on 10/22/2004 6:29:03 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Here is another one of Kerry and Edward's secrets.

Subject: Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?

The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the
nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit
margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the late
80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu.
The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by a
US company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5
million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical
companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit
margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK and
Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US.

By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law suit
was a young ambulance chaser by the name of
"JOHN EDWARDS".


17 posted on 10/22/2004 6:31:39 AM PDT by Sadie789
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To: stockpirate
I have no doubt the assassination discussion is true, but the problem is too many people don't want to think this is possible that somebody who is this dirty climbed this high into public office.

Same as with Klinton. Most all people knew he was a super scumbag, but nobody wanted to admit it as it would show to them selves that they made a a horrible mistake. Kind of like at the turn of the century in a high class home that might have a wash-woman and a house maid. "Daddy" rapes the wash-woman every Saturday morning in the celler, but everybody in the family keeps closed eyes and mouths. Don't make waves as long as its somebody else thats being hurt. Don't criticize "daddy" or he will kick you out of house. Most people are easily intimidated and don't want to rock the boat or shake the tree house. They are more interested in having somebody else put butter on their toast. They are cowards.

18 posted on 10/22/2004 6:42:04 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Always Right

Kerry's biggest secret is that he cannot get crowds like this to attend any of his events.
19 posted on 10/22/2004 6:44:11 AM PDT by rabidralph (Take responsibility for your life. Vote Republican)
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To: Always Right
According to vet Randy Barnes, Kerry opposed the assassination idea and orally resigned right after the vote. Barnes heads Missouri Veterans for Kerry. Musgrove says the assassination idea was voted down on Nov. 15, after Kerry had resigned and left Kansas City. But, Musgrove adds, Kerry could not have been ignorant of the rancorous argument about assassinations.

What makes this deadly serious is that 1971 was mid-point in an 18-year period in which JFK, Malcolm X, George Lincoln Rockwell, Martin Luther King King and Robert F. Kennedy were assassinated, and killers stalked Nixon, shot George Wallace, twice tried to shoot Gerald Ford and wounded Ronald Reagan. Eighteen months after Kansas City, Sen. John Stennis was shot outside his D.C. home, reportedly by robbers.

20 posted on 10/22/2004 6:49:23 AM PDT by kabar
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