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School Teachers Pointedly Slam NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND in Discussions with Parents...
10.21.04 | mlmr

Posted on 10/21/2004 6:17:28 PM PDT by mlmr

I have had to place some of my children in the local government schools. I am keeping the school on a fairly short leash and spend more than the usual amount of time talking to school employees.

Every school employee except for the busdriver has, each time we have spoken togher, has put in a POINTED slam of the No Child Left Behind program. All of them. All the time. One employee told me that I had to provide a reason and a note when the child is missing for a day...becasue No Child Left Behind requires it. Althoug friends in other districts deny thier schools requiring any such thing. And I certainly know that this is a FEDERAL mandate since the speakers all refer to this issue.

Is this a NEA or state union push. It is very effective for on a one to one basis with all parents during the teacher meetings this year, which are mostly held before the elections, parents are being told that the present administration is screwing up their child.

Any other government school parents experiencing this???


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KEYWORDS: homeschooling; nclb; nea; nochildleftbehind
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To: MrChips; mlmr
All I know is that the government schools and most of their union-protected employees are just part of the great bureaucratic blob, self-interested, self-perpetuating, self-aggrandizing, caring little or nothing about the actual education of children.

As a former teacher in government schools I can say that long before NCLB parents had to excuse partial and full day absense for their children. My son's school wanted a call in the morning of the absense in liu of a note. (Remember the joke about the school official who asked, "Who is this?" and the kid replied, "This is my Mother".)

You are of course correct about public school teachers being paid well for not carring one whit about the kids education. (In general this is the union's view, there are specific teachers who care a great deal.) But you are wrong about job security. After 10 years I was laid off on a strictly senority basis. If they had gone on subject matter, subject mastery, or merit I would have been kept and some other teacher closer to retirement would have been laid off. But Asi es la vida. Enjoy your work, and don't be too upset about the pay. Save and invest for your retirement, and enjoy that too.

61 posted on 10/21/2004 6:45:10 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: luckystarmom

I've asked the teacher to send home unfinished work and let my daughter go to recess, and the teacher has a problem with this.

My daughter has been in tears over this several times a week, since school started.




Talk to the teacher, if she is unable to comply take it to the principle. If you dont get what your daughter needs, pull her if it is a possibility.


62 posted on 10/21/2004 6:45:15 PM PDT by mlmr (The End is Near.)
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To: WoodstockCat

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the teachers for not wanting to be held accountable. Most of these kids are coming into the classroom with no discipline whatsoever. It's enough just to control these disrespectful, foul-mouthed brats. Until parents support teachers, rather than undermine them, and until strict corporal discipline is re-established in the classroom, serious learning will never return to our public schools.

NCLB addresses the effect but not the cause.


63 posted on 10/21/2004 6:45:38 PM PDT by pickemuphere
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To: bannie

No she's not. The teacher is not in the room with the kids.


64 posted on 10/21/2004 6:45:54 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: kiki04

Former P.s. teacher here too. My kids are in a parochial school!

I left the profession before NCLB. Outcome based ed. was all the rage when I left. They were instituting it my district and it was making me ill! Hopefully NCLB is taking those watered down standards resulting from OBE and jacking them up a lot.


65 posted on 10/21/2004 6:46:37 PM PDT by freemama
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To: kiki04

Because I have been single parenting it for a long time now, and it is obvious that this is our future. I have been working full time and homeschooling four for the past three years. I have wonderful friends.

I am exhausted.

I cannot do it any more.


66 posted on 10/21/2004 6:47:11 PM PDT by mlmr (The End is Near.)
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To: mlmr

My wife teaches in a public school. She says that all of the teachers and administration--all of them--hate No Child Left Behind with a loathing that can hardly be comprehended.

I think is has something to do with the fact that if the school continues to fail, time after time, parents will be given the option of transferring the child to another school.

I think it has more to do with NEA bellyaching. Most teachers are extremely gullible and believe whatever the local NEA goon spoon feeds them.


67 posted on 10/21/2004 6:47:35 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect John Kerry as it's president has forfeited it's right to exist.)
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To: pickemuphere

Cheers!


68 posted on 10/21/2004 6:48:16 PM PDT by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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To: luckystarmom

Who is with the child?


69 posted on 10/21/2004 6:48:50 PM PDT by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

As a former teacher in government schools I can say that long before NCLB parents had to excuse partial and full day absense for their children. My son's school wanted a call in the morning of the absense in liu of a note. (Remember the joke about the school official who asked, "Who is this?" and the kid replied, "This is my Mother".)

I have no problem with a child needing a note when he or she is going to school on the bus after being absent. But to require a note when I am telling the staff the excuse is beyond reality.


70 posted on 10/21/2004 6:49:31 PM PDT by mlmr (The End is Near.)
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To: mlmr

That's PRINCIPAL!!


71 posted on 10/21/2004 6:50:07 PM PDT by mlmr (The End is Near.)
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To: Skooz

I think is has something to do with the fact that if the school continues to fail, time after time, parents will be given the option of transferring the child to another school.

YES!


72 posted on 10/21/2004 6:51:23 PM PDT by mlmr (The End is Near.)
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To: bannie

It's an open school and like one teacher floats between a lot of rooms, or they have a non-teacher staff roaming the rooms.

I was there one day. I had been in my other daughters' classroom, and went to check on the daughter having the problem. Her teacher was holding her in. I sat and waited for the teacher to come back.

While I was waiting, several of the boys were asking me questions about their homework. They didn't know how to do it. I felt really sorry for those kids. I helped as much as I could.


73 posted on 10/21/2004 6:51:33 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: pickemuphere
that's a good point on discipline. I just despise the NEA and the way they strong arm young teachers just out of college with their first job. The NEA knows that NCLB is paving the way for real school choice. That is the deathnell of their power and their influence in a social and political manner on the raising of our children. Did you know Jeb Bush has a pilot program to use state money for home schoolers to buy computers?

Ron Paige has been at war with the NEA and he's still behind in the battle but four more years of Bush would allow him to pull a bit even.

74 posted on 10/21/2004 6:51:42 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (DNC and John Kerry: Forgers R' Us)
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To: mlmr

Of course you shouldn't have to write a note. I thought you meant that the child had to come with a note from home. That is different.


75 posted on 10/21/2004 6:51:46 PM PDT by MrChips (ARD)
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To: luckystarmom

For a second grader that teacher is pretty tough on her. Some second graders are slower in writing because they're perfectionist writers. This is a good trait. To not allow recess is doing the opposite because she now thinks she's being punished for not writing good making her slower with perfection in mind. If this teacher can't reason with logic then maybe the principle should intervene. Recess is a development not just fun and games, although for a kid it is fun.


76 posted on 10/21/2004 6:52:02 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: luckystarmom



Time to chat with the principle...don't let a rotten teacher ruin your daughters love of learning or school. Your child needs a break during the day especially the little ones...raise some cain in the principles office, you can even request another homeroom for our daughter...sounds like she needs one with a teacher who'll appreciate her for the skills she does have.


77 posted on 10/21/2004 6:52:05 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Skooz

I prefer that educators be responsible to local authorities. When the federal government becomes involved, parents lose their voice.


78 posted on 10/21/2004 6:52:37 PM PDT by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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To: farmfriend

Technically, your local PTA is not supposed to let nonmembers attend their meetings. I don't know why, but it is in the by-laws. I don't understand why so many schools do not drop the PTA and create their own organizations that keep all membership dues for use at their schools.


79 posted on 10/21/2004 6:53:49 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: luckystarmom

Students should not be left in a room without a teacher. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


80 posted on 10/21/2004 6:53:53 PM PDT by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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