Posted on 10/21/2004 4:37:37 PM PDT by blueskyline
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The highest-ranking U.S. soldier charged in the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal in Iraq has been sentenced to eight years in prison.
Staff Sgt. Ivan "Chip" Frederick, a U.S. Army reservist from Virginia, also was sentenced Thursday to a forfeiture of pay, a dishonorable discharge and a reduction in rank to private.
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Hear, hear!
Thanks for providing a "laugh break" on a serious thread.
As a former MP Company commander I agree with you 100%. That said, the officers under whose watch this occurred are also criminally negligent.
Americans are conditioned to have an inferiority complex about their country. Look at the messages in the media, schools and the garbage spewed by the Dems. That's what I was refering to....
Tell me again how many officers have been in the dock?????
As with all of these threads at the time, universally the people that think the guards did nothing wrong and should get a slap on the wrist are people basically devoid of military experience and knowledge, and ALL of the ex-military types feel the Gharaib guards should be severely punished and were outraged at what they did.
That should tell you something.
I remember and for months I have been hoping that that SOB would have the book thrown at him.
Frederick was the nephew of Bill Lawson.
Bill Lawson was the uncle that tried to blackmail the U.S. Army into dropping the charges against his nephew that rose out of the Army investigation of the Abu Ghraib incident on the threat of releasing the CD-R full of Abu Ghraib photos that Frederick mailed to him when he came under investigation.
When the U.S. Army refused to cave in to the blackmail, Uncle Bill hooked up with Hackworth, CBS and 60 Minutes to pour the gasoline of the Abu Ghraib photos on the fire of the Iraq War.
Later, Uncle Bill gloated that "the Army could have avoided all of this" if the Army had only caved in to the blackmail instead of following the Rule of Law.
As a result of what Frederick and his family did, the terrorists had a fantastic recruiting tool, the violence against American forces escalated, the Democrats were able to convince a large percentage of the American Sheeple that the war was immoral and every America-hater around the World used Frederick's photos of perversion as the symbol of the American military.
American soldiers and civilians died and the entire U.S. war effort was jeopardized as a direct result of what that family of traitors did.
Frederick deserves every minute of his 8 years in prison.
What goes around, comes around Uncle Bill.
Ever served IN the military to understand all of the ramifications?
It's fine to look the other way when torture is used just because the perp is an American - one of "our guys"?
That alone makes it cool to you??
Think of the all the Hanoi Hiltons and the animals who ran those and tortured our POWs for years, and what our guys endured - German concentration camps - - and others.
The prisoner was not on a battlefield where he was a threat to the guards or others where some might have looked the other way to spare lives...
(Yes - I served in the U. S. Marine Corps at Parris Island during the Korean Conflict, instructing women recuits in the classroom - another war, with the development there of brainwashing as a technique against the American prisoners, and very frequent brutal torture - including torture of my own husband)
How so? The MSM was ready to behead Donald Rumsfeld for the crime...and he had nothing to do with it.
But that isn't what you said.
Americans are the only nationality who "don't take care of their own".
Have you forgotten what the Canadians did to the 'peacekeepers' who roasted the prisoner over the open fire? Compare that with what happened to the Americans who violated orders and bombed the Canadian troops in Afghanistan. Also, look at how the Brits have dealt with allegations of abuse.
No other nationality has been pacified like ours.
I'm guessing you haven't traveled much in Germany, or Belgium, or Austria, or Canada.
Torture is "rape rooms" and prisons just for children and wood-chippers.
Ask those IIRC 8 Iraqis that needed prosthetic arms and hands that were welcomed by GWB White House if underwear on their head is considered torture.
If that is YOUR definition of torture then most American college students would reside at Guantanamo. And shockingly enough by their own behavior. Some drunken college students consider that the beginning of an evening.
Wake up pal! If you seriously call such behavior "torture" you are in dire need of a dictionary.
So true. Liberals crying for Rumsfeld's resignation were a dime a dozen about six months ago.
These idiots damaged American national security far more than if they'd, say, simply deserted and joined our enemies. Let 'em rot.
What happened to the initial denials? I remember his family being on saying that he denied doing anything. Now he pleads guilty?
after the election, if all goes well, Bush will commute these sentences.
Has the military gotten the okay from CBS, the UN, and France on the length of sentencing?
I was told by a major in the guards that most likely when this all quiets down they will be released.
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