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W. Virginia Elector Might Leave Bush
yahoo.com ^ | 43 minutes ago | Jennifer Bundy

Posted on 10/21/2004 2:03:38 PM PDT by crushelits

CHARLESTON, W.Va. - If President Bush (news - web sites) wins West Virginia, one of the state's five Republican electors says he might not vote for Bush to protest the president's economic and foreign policies.

South Charleston Mayor Richie Robb said based on his research, an elector has "qualified discretion" when it comes to casting a vote.

"There is an implied duty to vote for your party's candidate. But I don't think it's an explicit duty or responsibility," said Robb, a moderate Republican who has a reputation of being a maverick in the state party.

Still, Robb calls it "highly unlikely" that he would cast a vote for Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites). He said he might cast his vote for Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) or another Republican instead as a protest against Bush, meaning the president would lose out on one electoral vote.

Robb's decision could end up having enormous national significance because the presidential election is expected to go down to the wire. That is exactly what happened in 2000, when George W. Bush won the White House with 271 electoral votes. To win the presidency, a candidate must receive 270 electoral votes.

"There are people talking about a tied race," said Larry Sabato, a political scientist with the University of Virginia. "This one man could change the election result, could negate the vote of 115 million Americans."

Robb's dissatisfaction with Bush stems from the president's decision to invade Iraq (news - web sites) and economic policies he says have caused the loss of nearly 1,000 high-paying chemical and manufacturing jobs in his town of about 13,000 residents. Robb has been mayor of the Charleston suburb since 1975.

A veteran who won a Bronze Star in the Vietnam War, Robb said he also is upset with campaign ads that attacked Kerry's war record.

State GOP Chairman Kris Warner said he is not worried about how Robb will vote if West Virginia again goes for the president. Bush won the 2-to-1 Democrat state in 2000 by 6 percentage points, making him the first Republican presidential candidate who was not an incumbent to take the state in more than 70 years.

"I maintain Mayor Robb will carry out the will of the West Virginia people when it becomes clear and decisive President Bush has carried the state," Warner said. Recent polls show the race is too close too call.

Robb said he objects to criticism from some who say he is a "faithless" elector. He said he views himself as a "principled elector" because he is discussing his qualms about Bush before the election.

"There have been a few people who have been downright hateful. I think that is just the nature of this election, which has been hateful," Robb said. "I won't be intimidated by the mean-spirited attacks."

Only 10 electors in history have gone against the popular vote, including one from West Virginia.

Margarette Leach of Huntington declined to vote for Michael Dukakis in 1988 even though Dukakis carried West Virginia. Leach cast her presidential vote for Dukakis' running mate, Lloyd Bentsen.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: bush; elections; elector; mightleave; politics; wvirginia
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1 posted on 10/21/2004 2:03:39 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: crushelits

All ready post today and is a repeat of a thread from a month ago


2 posted on 10/21/2004 2:04:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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To: crushelits

Who picks the idiiots?


3 posted on 10/21/2004 2:05:00 PM PDT by laconic
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To: crushelits

Dupe. But don't worry about it. As long as he doesn't switch to Kerry it won't have any effect...

If it finishes 269-269 he votes for someone else then it becomes 269-268 and the House gives it to Bush... If it ends 270-268 for Bush and he gives his vote to Cheney or whatever, it ends 269-268 Bush and the House STILL gives it to W... No worries.


4 posted on 10/21/2004 2:05:35 PM PDT by Gustafm1000
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To: crushelits

How did this kook become one of the state's five Republican electors?


5 posted on 10/21/2004 2:06:16 PM PDT by Max Combined (I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine...)
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To: crushelits

It probably won't happen. Remember 4 years ago and all the threats, bribes, etc, from Beckel and many of the electors saying they might switch votes. They didn't. They are strong members of their parties or they wouldn't be in that position.


6 posted on 10/21/2004 2:06:47 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: Gustafm1000

Here's the kicker. If the Senate goes democrat, the Breck Girl could be the new Veep if Congress picks. The Senate picks the Veep in the case of an Electoral College no decision.


7 posted on 10/21/2004 2:07:28 PM PDT by Credo
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To: Gustafm1000

If it finishes 269-269 he votes for someone else then it becomes 269-268 and the House gives it to Bush... If it ends 270-268 for Bush and he gives his vote to Cheney or whatever, it ends 269-268 Bush and the House STILL gives it to W... No worries.>>>

What? If it finishes 269-269 and one Bush elector leaves and votes for his cat it Becomes 268-269-Kerry wins not 269-268 and Bush wins.


8 posted on 10/21/2004 2:10:36 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: crushelits

How much is this going to cost the DNC.


9 posted on 10/21/2004 2:11:05 PM PDT by aomagrat (Where weapons are not allowed, it is best to carry weapons.)
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To: crushelits

If my representative pulled this sort of crap, I would seriously start a recall petition to remind him who is supposedly representing.


10 posted on 10/21/2004 2:11:27 PM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: aft_lizard

What? If it finishes 269-269 and one Bush elector leaves and votes for his cat it Becomes 268-269-Kerry wins not 269-268 and Bush wins.


Look, Congress decides in any scenario where someone doesn't get to 270... It could be split 250 - 100 - 200 or whatever and Congress would decide...

To keep Congress from deciding someone needs to get to 270. Otherwise the House decides. Period. So whether Kerry is up 269-268 or Bush is up 269-268 is irrelevant. The House decides and gives it to Bush...


11 posted on 10/21/2004 2:14:24 PM PDT by Gustafm1000
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To: aft_lizard
A candidate must get a MAJORITY (ie., over 50%) of electoral votes to be elected President. Otherwise, the House elects the President, with each state (regardless of population) having one vote.
12 posted on 10/21/2004 2:15:26 PM PDT by labard1
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To: crushelits

This story is at least a month old.


13 posted on 10/21/2004 2:15:56 PM PDT by Trippin
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To: Gustafm1000

He is just trying to get a sense of importance. How? By attempting to make a statement during an election.

Such an idiot. What about making a statement by writing a letter to the president.


14 posted on 10/21/2004 2:18:51 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: Credo
Here's the kicker. If the Senate goes democrat, the Breck Girl could be the new Veep if Congress picks. The Senate picks the Veep in the case of an Electoral College no decision. The sitting Sentate decides, not the incoming one.
15 posted on 10/21/2004 2:18:58 PM PDT by lwg8tr
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To: Gustafm1000

I just hope that day never comes. I hope whoever(better be Bush) wins this election wins it handily. I think the dims are willing to start there socialist uprising if its close and the dims spread there usual lies. I wouldnt be surprised if a few terrorists are waiting until election day or the next day to attack us also, depending on the mood of the nation if it looks like we are about to tear ourselves apart.


16 posted on 10/21/2004 2:28:37 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: lwg8tr
It will be the Senate seated after Jan. 1st. That's when the Veep reads the results to the newly sworn in joint session of Congress. The swearing in for the Veep and Prez is on the 20th.

There was a possibility that Lieberman could've been W's Veep if there was no decision. 50-50 Senate with Gore as the tie breaker.

17 posted on 10/21/2004 2:28:52 PM PDT by Credo
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To: crushelits

How did this piece of human excrement get selected to be an elector in the first place?

Did the W.V. GOP F*** up this bad?


18 posted on 10/21/2004 2:55:18 PM PDT by tomahawk
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To: crushelits

Maybe the citizens of the city who elected the Mayor should be contacting him and giving them a piece of their minds.


19 posted on 10/21/2004 3:43:25 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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To: MNJohnnie

IOW, his :15 is already up??


20 posted on 10/21/2004 3:46:26 PM PDT by onehipdad (My Next Bumper Sticker: DUMBASS LIBERAL)
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