Nice going, guy!
Posted on 10/21/2004 3:58:20 AM PDT by csvset
Officer in charge of Tomcat squadron relieved of duties
The Virginian-Pilot
© October 18, 2004
Last updated: 1:13 PM
The commanding officer of an F-14 Tomcat squadron assigned to the carrier John F. Kennedy in the Persian Gulf was relieved of command Sunday.
Cmdr. Guy Maiden, who has led the “Jolly Rogers” since Sept. 1, was relieved for an undisclosed “liberty incident,” said Mike Maus, deputy public affairs officer for the Atlantic Fleet Naval Air Force, headquartered in Norfolk.
The action was taken by Rear Adm. Barry McCullough , commander of the Kennedy Strike Group, aboard the Kennedy, which is based in Mayport, Fla. All of the Navy’s F-14 squadrons are based at Oceana Naval Air Station in Virginia Beach.
The Navy immediately appointed Cmdr. David Landess to temporarily take command of the squadron. Landess previously served as the squadron’s commanding officer and is being sent back to take charge, Maus said.
Details of the incident that led to Maiden’s relief were not provided by the Navy. Maus declined to name the liberty port that was the site of the infraction.
Ouch, he didn't last long.
F-14 ping.
Watched Top Gun one too many times.
Takes congress to make them gentlemen, on paper, some just never quite understand what that means.
Possiblu you're leaping to conclusions.....
Could have been an "alcohol related incident."
I spent 20 years in the Navy as an enlisted man and retired in 1998. When I went to my first ship in 1980, if you could make it back on board from liberty under your own power (no matter how drunk you were) you were fine. However, drug use was rampant at that time. Then the Navy instituted their "zero tolerance" policy for drugs and started the urinalysis program. After the drug problem was under control, the Navy started a "zero tolerance" program for alcohol ABUSE. Abuse being defined as any incident that occurs where a person had consumed alcohol, whether legally drunk or not, even if the person was of legal age. It got so bad, that while I was on my last ship, 1993-1996, if you so much as stumbled coming across the gangplank, you were taken to Medical for a blood alcohol level test, and if you were drunk, it was considered an "alcohol related incident." Then you were taken before the Captain, who could bust you and even kick you out. Just for a couple of beers.
That being said, the Commanding Officer of any unit (Squadron, Ship, shore station) should set a good example to his crew, and so-called "liberty incidents" are not good examples. I remember the lack of respect for one CO I had who was seen passed out drunk by numerous members of the crew while on liberty in Spain. Young sailors feel that if the CO can do it, why can't I?
Ken..Conclusions??? Way I read it was he was relieved for cause. Did you see anything that said they erred????
Ken..Conclusions??? Way I read it was he was relieved for cause. Did you see anything that said they erred????
undisclosed “liberty incident,”
He was out tomcatting, maybe?
CDR Guy Maiden here, currently the Executive Assistant for the Deputy Director for Operations (Combating Terrorism), J34, the Joint Staff, The Pentagon.
This document goes on forever, so I can't quite make out if this guy is a Clinton-cloner, or a warrior, and I'm too tired to figure it out (just heading home from work, for a couple of hours sleep.). FYI..
SFS
Nice going, guy!
Maybe him and Roger were getting too Jolly?
I saw my XO and CO drunk off their rear ends on the same night at the same place (hotel bar in Izmir Turkey on New Year's Eve.). I even got pictures of my XO (my partner in a pool game) with the party hat I put on his head and the noismaker stuffed in his mouth that I gave him.
My CO was leaning heavily on the microphone stand singing "There is, a house, in New Orleans, they call the rising sun". I'm not sure if that was really singing or slurring.
I'd guess he'd fall more into the category of entertainer than singer.
Our ship's band, the Barney Blues Band, rocked hard all that cruise. Our CO had them playing topside when we pulled into every port in our 18 or so port calls that were not U.S. Naval Bases during our Med. Cruise.
So when I see an officer removed for a liberty incident it's going to get my attention because I've seen some bad stuff on liberty out of officers.
He's listed as a "collaborator" with the Clinton-think, which is interesting, but the long essay is hard to follow... I'm not sure I agree based on what I read.
Thus, CDR Guy Maiden (USNA class 1986, born 11/21/62 - the 'later cohort' of the Boomer generation) goes into the COLLABORATOR category. He demonstrates the typical arrogance of the elites of his generation, the radical counter-culture revolutionaries of the Clinton Boomer 'early cohort.' Those power elites of the Boomer generation became so accustomed to 'sticking it in our eyes' during both their coming-of-age years and during their first taste of executive power during the Clinton years that it comes second nature to them to disparage one's character to an audience and then ask that the object of their venom please not respond to that same audience.
One of the reasons I stopped actively participating in the USNR in 1996 was that my role (small unit C.O.) put me in Washington about six months out of twelve. I got a close-up look a the Clinton Navy, and just about upchucked. Looks like there was a movement within, fighting back, and this guy may have been playing along with the establishment.
Anyway, a guy works his entire life for his first command, and this was probably "it" for him. To have it pissed away for something on liberty..is just inconceiveable. One thing we have to remember is that just about everyone in uniform has been in the fight. Whatever this man's problems (and he has no "right" to lead that unit, if he screwed up, that's his problem), he's a patriot in uniform, going in harms way, defending his country.
Sad end to his career..
SFS
What a wuss.
Does anybody remember the club scene from "The Great Santini" where Marine aviator Santini (Robert Duvall) is requested to "pipe down" by some senior Navy officers? I have to believe that was not just a "sea story" but happened somewhere in real life.
I was in during the same era ('77 - '97), you summarized the crackdown on alcohol related incidents correctly. I don't know if alcohol lead to his undoing or not.
classic film - Robert Duvall and that kid from Caddyshack I think
I guess that happens when your call sign is "screwup." ;~)
Name's Pukin Dog
PING
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