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Carter says American Revolution 'unnecessary'
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Posted on 10/20/2004 9:53:24 AM PDT by jbwbubba

Wednesday, Oct. 20, 2004 Jimmy Carter: American Revolution Was 'Unnecessary'

Recently we described Jimmy Carter as the worst president of the past 100 years. We apologize.

He's the worst president ever.

In trying to compare the American Revolution to the war in Iraq, here's what the jug-headed Georgian said to fellow Democrat Chris Matthews on "Hardball" Monday night, according to MSNBC's own transcript:

'A Little More Sensitive'

Well, one parallel is that the Revolutionary War, more than any other war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we've fought. I think another parallel is that in some ways the Revolutionary War could have been avoided. It was an unnecessary war. Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive to the colonials' really legitimate complaints and requests the war could have been avoided completely, and of course now we would have been a free country now as is Canada and India and Australia, having gotten our independence in a nonviolent way.

I think in many ways the British were very misled in going to war against America and in trying to enforce their will on people who were quite different from them at the time.

Does the catastrophic ex-prez really think the war in Iraq is bloodier than the Vietnam War, the Korean War, World War II, World War I, the Civil War ...?

Note to Jimmy: Canada did not begin to gain independence until 1867. Australia did not receive partial independence as a commonwealth until 1901. India did not gain independence until 1947, and all the Indians who were killed by the British would hardly describe their deaths as "nonviolent."


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To: edpc
The entire Carter presidency was unnecessary

I totally disagree. In some ways Carter was a godsend. If Ford would have been elected to his own term it would have been just as bad economically (remember Whip Inflation Now?), although Ford would have probably dealt with Iran harsher than Carter.

But the RINOs would have pushed for Bush I to run in 1984, while dismissing Reagan as too old. There wouldn't have been a Reagan presidency had Ford won in 1976. Plus voters got to experience the failure of a Dem presidency on hand with Carter.

21 posted on 10/20/2004 10:05:31 AM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: lilylangtree
The fact remains that the colonists spent ten years, from March 1765 to April 1775, pleading with the Crown to allow them to exercise their rights as British subjects.

Does the piece of traitorous filth formerly known as President Carter really think that "negotiations" would work?

Of course he does. This is the same moron who thought that 13 years of negotiating with Saddam Hussein were about to pay off.

22 posted on 10/20/2004 10:06:05 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: jbwbubba

Carter had extensive ties to the Rev. Jim Jones, which tells you what type of person he is.


23 posted on 10/20/2004 10:08:18 AM PDT by BlkConserv
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To: jbwbubba
it seems Jimmuh getting series foot-in-mouth disease as he's getting older...
24 posted on 10/20/2004 10:09:40 AM PDT by Toidylop (Anybody needs a stinking "global test" besides Kerry?)
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To: 12 Gauge Mossberg
I totally disagree.

So do I.

President Nixon ran as a Goldwater Republican and governed like a Rockefeller RINO.

President Ford governed and ran as a Rockefeller RINO.

But President Reagan, God bless him, ran as a Goldwater Republican, won as a Gold water Republican and governed as a Goldwater Republican.

If President Ford had been reelected in 1976 and been followed by yet another RINO, the Republican Party would be useless today.

25 posted on 10/20/2004 10:09:44 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: ServesURight
When forced to think of Carter, I hear 'The Wall'

"We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control..."

26 posted on 10/20/2004 10:11:04 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: jbwbubba

Geez louise.....can't this guy just leave the stage!


27 posted on 10/20/2004 10:13:38 AM PDT by smiley (Watch out Dems! I'm a William F. Buckley Conservative!!)
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To: jbwbubba

"we would have been a free country now as is Canada"

Newsflash for you Carter: Canada is no bastion of freedom, and what freedom we have was not gained without violence.

In 1837 there was a short and unsucessfull rebellion up here for more freedom. Although the rebellion failed to overthrow the undemocratic oiligarchy, it did spook them into making some modest reforms, just enough to keep the rabble from rebellion any further. Not much has changed since then.


28 posted on 10/20/2004 10:15:28 AM PDT by Grig
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To: smiley

I cant express the depths of my contempt for this so called moral Christian man.

I'll take Slick over this guy any day of the week.


29 posted on 10/20/2004 10:17:31 AM PDT by Dat Mon (clever tagline under construction)
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To: EggsAckley
One word: senility
30 posted on 10/20/2004 10:18:41 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: jbwbubba

Classic "Jimmuh Carta". There's a reason why the US hostages were released by Iran on the day of Ronaldus Magnus's inauguration. This is why he got his @$$ handed to him on a platter in the election 1980.


31 posted on 10/20/2004 10:22:34 AM PDT by MahaMarty
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To: Publius6961

You are of course correct, and Carter has no idea what he is talking about.

Casualties:

Rev. War 80 months 4,435 deaths 55/month
Civil War 48 months 558,052 deaths 3,846/month
WWI 19 months 116,708 deaths 2,816/month
WWII 44 months 407,316 deaths 6,639/month
Vietnam War 90 months 58,168 deaths 526/month
Iraq War 20 month 1,067 deaths 53/month


32 posted on 10/20/2004 10:27:00 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: jbwbubba

When I first read this yesterday, I thought it was a spoof from "The Onion". Now I see that this sick pronouncement was legitimate and he was serious. What an America-hater! Those of us who remember the 70's (and weren't in Cambodia on a secret mission) felt that he was a well-intentioned religious man (at that time), but it now is apparent that his hatred of American sovereignty was cleverly disguised under the guise of his religiosity, but even that was a thin veneer that is now cracked, revealing the fiery hatred and contempt, and even peevishness of the real person beneath. A man cannot serve two Gods and it seems that Jimmah has picked his. What an utter fool.


33 posted on 10/20/2004 10:27:46 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (sKerry: Wrong about America then, wrong for America now!)
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To: jbwbubba

Spectacular, self-immolating stupidity. Carter is amazing, if only for his abilty to take the completely wrong side of an issue nearly 100% of the time.


34 posted on 10/20/2004 10:28:04 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: jbwbubba
Don't forget that the British government forbade any anglo settlement west of the Appalachains. Without a revolution, there would be no Tennessee, no Kentucky. The current country would be only along the east coast, basically the original 13 colonies. Florida would be a Spanish country, like Cuba. The Louisiana Purchase would never have happened so there would be a huge Quebec streching from Quebec to New Orleans. The West south of a line from Oregon to Texas would be Mexico. Russia would still own Alaska.

Not a good scenario.

35 posted on 10/20/2004 10:29:51 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: jbwbubba

Actually there's an interesting "what if" argument to be had here. "No taxation without representation" was one of the battle cries of the Revolution. The colonists (even though they were taxed much less heavily than native Brits) resented that they weren't represented in Parliament. The British take was that, instead of representing their individual districts, all MPs represented the whole empire. What would have happened to the revolutionary fervor if the Brits had simply said, "fine, send over whatever number of representatives to Parliament, and instead of considering you colonies, we'll consider you part of the British nation proper." At the very least, it would have undercut some of the support for the war.


36 posted on 10/20/2004 10:31:47 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: jbwbubba

Mark Twain was right. Carter should heed his advice, "It is better to be silent and thought stupid rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt".


37 posted on 10/20/2004 10:33:11 AM PDT by Mark Felton (The time has come for Christians to Rise Up and Demand Obedience to God!)
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To: mhking

mega JD ping!


38 posted on 10/20/2004 10:34:27 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: wideawake
"...the Republican Party would be useless today."

They're not? I see a helluva lot more Rockefeller than Goldwater in today's Pubbies. Furthermore, who's waiting in the wings to take over when Bush leaves, either in three months or four years...Giuliani (sp?), Schwarzenegger, Hatch, Collins, Snowe, Chaffee, etc.? I don't see a conservative party to counter the CommieLib party...more like Liberal and Slightly Less Liberal.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

39 posted on 10/20/2004 10:37:17 AM PDT by wku man (Breathe...Relax...Aim...Squeeze...Smile!)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

40 posted on 10/20/2004 10:40:04 AM PDT by mhking (Does John Kerry always speak with exclamation points?)
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