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[VANITY] Missouri has 4.1 million voters registered--more than eligible
KMOX radio | 20 October 2004 | Self

Posted on 10/20/2004 5:40:04 AM PDT by ShadowAce

Sorry for the vanity, but I cannot find an on-line source for this.

While I was driving into work this morning, I heard on the radio that Missouri has over 4.1 million people registered to vote--which is more than Missouri has eligible. Clearly there is vote fraud going on.

Has anyone else heard about this or was I hearing things?


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: dirtytricks; fraud; rats; vote; votefraud
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To: ShadowAce

I dont believe they said 4.1 million more voters registered. I think that was the total of either registerd voters or voting age citizens. I remember them quoting two numbers, 4.1 and 4.3 million. I believe what they said was Missouri had 4.1 million voters and 4.3 million people in the voting age population.


21 posted on 10/20/2004 5:59:02 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: ShadowAce

I'm hearing that in Rock Island County/Illinois there is an inordinate number of absentee ballots. That would be a very easy bit of fraudulent activity, don't you think?


22 posted on 10/20/2004 5:59:27 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: ShadowAce
It may not be as bad as you think.

The voter registry is a national disgrace. Theoretically, one is only supposed to be registered in one location, but the simple fact of the matter is that people move. Within the county, communication is unneeded. Within a state, communication is somewhat better, although there was a point in time in 2000 when I was registered in two counties (I only voted once, though....) because the one county never bothered to pass along to the other that I had registered there.

It might not be fraud -- equally likely is the breakdown in the system.

Personally, I want a national voter registry/photo ID card.

23 posted on 10/20/2004 5:59:59 AM PDT by jude24 (sola gratia)
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To: Dave S

Given the fact that we don't need to show an i.d., this is going to be a true mess.


24 posted on 10/20/2004 6:00:40 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: peyton randolph
I heard that some counties in Ohio are running 125% of eligible voters. The Donks have been telling people to register fraudulently in Ohio for the last six months. They call it "Bleeding Ohio", a reference to the violence and unrest in Bleeding Kansas prior to the Civil War.
25 posted on 10/20/2004 6:00:47 AM PDT by gridlock (BARKEEP: Why the long face? HORSE: Ha ha, old joke. BARKEEP: Not you, I was talking to JF'n Kerry!)
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To: ShadowAce

The problem is that people are paid to collect registrations. The more people you register, the more money you make. This is an invitation to fraud.


26 posted on 10/20/2004 6:01:58 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: ShadowAce

I heard that also. They also said that due to the frequent moving of people, it can take up to 4 years to purge a voter from the rolls. Often people are registered twice, but for the most part they only vote once if at all.

Also said that the database containing voter registration can not do any matching to find duplicate voters.

My take - If they required a drivers license number stored in the voter registration database, finding duplicates would be extremely easy to do.

If I was an evil dem, I would keep all of the returned voter notifications returned as "no longer at this address" and provide the names to democratic operatives to manufacture votes that match up with the voter lists at each precinct.


27 posted on 10/20/2004 6:02:46 AM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: jsh3180

That's because we have Harry Sawyer running things. He does not put up with any BS. My wife has been a poll worker for years and they do things right. The Keys should be a model for the rest of the state.


28 posted on 10/20/2004 6:06:49 AM PDT by keysguy (Trust the media as far as you can throw them)
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To: ShadowAce

It isn't "fraud". Its the effect of Cliton's Motor-Voter delaying purges of voting rolls. Here in Philadelphia, for example, we once again have more registered voters than eligible voters. But the voter registration office is also aware that 15% of the registrations (150,000) are stale, and they will purge them at the first legal opportunity after this election. Depending on who actually turns out as well, another 100-200,000 will be purged in 2006 after the next mid-term elections.


29 posted on 10/20/2004 6:09:14 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Josh in PA

There were more voters than people according to the

U.S. CENSUS taken in 2000- I believe in:

South Dakota
Detroit
Philly
St. Louis
Memphis?- notsure

Yep more votes than people- notice who got the votes?

What is worse especially in Detroit- I believe Bush
lost by 95% of the vote (if I recall I think the true
number was 97%)
Here is a favorite of Demon party: pack up a van with
8 or so senior citizens drive them around to let's say
8 polling places if they get to vote muli times great!-
if they get caught -"their confused"- they let them go
to try another poll.
Bush lost in Minnesota by @ 2% (50,000 votes out of 2.4
million- think you can find 5000 rats statewide to vote
multiple times?
Stopping fraud could be easy- just videoing taping people
entering the polling place would probably stop most
of these scams


30 posted on 10/20/2004 6:12:04 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

Democrats cannot play fair. They will swap crack cocaine for completed registration from like they did recently in Defiance, OH. A woman named Pitts working for the NAACP gave crack to a druggie named Stanton for more than 100 completed fraudulent registration forms. They did us a favor because now they'll have to tell the judge why Dick Tracy is registered.


31 posted on 10/20/2004 6:15:36 AM PDT by Wardawg (Hanoi John Forgery le Kerrie was here.)
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To: sarasota
Given the fact that we don't need to show an i.d., this is going to be a true mess.

I live in St. Louis County and I remember the 96 Presidential election. As I was standing in line a woman asked one of the election officials whether you had to be a citizen to vote. After a quick conference she was told no, she didnt need to be a citizen as long as she was registered. Pray for a clear cut election result. Otherwise we are in for more than thirty days in the courts. At least we have the Presidency until the courts make any final determination if it court battles extend beyond Jan 20.

32 posted on 10/20/2004 6:18:00 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: mj1234

That was my solution that I thought of last night.

Put a videotape to the entrance of the polling place.

Get two of those rotating bar systems they use at sporting events to count the number of people who enter. Put one at the entrance to the door, and another one before they go into the booth. Then ID everyone who comes in.

It's so simple, which is why the Dims would filibuster it.


33 posted on 10/20/2004 6:20:15 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: deport
Good catch -- going to look at real numbers -- what a scandal! And notice that St Louis city was DOWN 60,000 registrants from Nov 00 to August 04. And that of the 240,000 or so registrants in St louis city in 00, only 50% voted -- also available from the Sec State Web site.

Fight fraud, but look at the real numbers to see where it may occur.

As to a couple of other claims, Philly cast 561,171 votes in the 2000 presidential -- 60% of registration or less. Many registrations may be phony, but no one is voting 100% of the registrants -- anywhere. Cite chapter and verse if you can name a specific precinct. The task is to be vigilant poll-watchers and be sure that no phony (or even expired/moved) registrants become phony voters. It will not happen by the millions, but even by a few thousands can tip a close race

34 posted on 10/20/2004 6:30:26 AM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: ShadowAce
National ID should be required. We have passed the point of trying to have elections without fraud. The problem, if we have national ID, is in order for it to work there must be a national data bank to make sure one person, one vote. Could this possible be linked to the Social Security data bank? Everyone born in the US should have a Social Security number and should be no abuse since the system is in place.
35 posted on 10/20/2004 6:31:02 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: peyton randolph
The fraud is pervasive nationwide. We're becoming a banana republic.

How do you spell voter fraud?

You spell it....NAACP, AFofL CIO, NEA, Democratic Party.

It is time for the MSM and Americans to closely examine our political system and make some serious reforms.

Florida and the Bannana Republic Courts of Florida shocked us, and we demanded voting reform to avoid hangind chads and such. Now it is time to examine and set limits on what the MSM can do in within 4 months of a major election to require broadcasters to comply with a code of conduct and fairness if using FCC regulated airwaves and for which there are serious fines if they violate those standards of conduct. It is also time to do serious federal criminal with long jail sentences federal election voter fraud laws and to procesecute those who commit fraud.

I watched on TV last night as the Sheriff's rep was interviewed about the NAACP lady who paid for voter registration efforts with crack cocaine. It is really time to become outraged. There are people out there who truly believe that anything is fair in politics. They need to become afraid of going to jail.

36 posted on 10/20/2004 6:41:12 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: ShadowAce

The figure seems in the ballpark. In 2000, approx 2.3 million voted with a voter turnout of almost 60%. Given population increases, it is plausible that 4.1 million have registered, but that would mean that almost everyone eligible has registered. Missouri has a population (2003) of 5.7 million.


37 posted on 10/20/2004 6:48:51 AM PDT by kabar
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To: ShadowAce

In Colorado Donnetta Davison last week said there may be as much as 30% fraudulent registrations here.

In Philadelphia in the last election several districts voted 100% for Gore where the historical turn out for those districts was less that 50% of eligible voters.

The left wing is a wounded animal and the level of desperation they will go to is bounded by nothing. They are more dangerous than they have ever been. I would not be surprised to see outright violence at the polls given the willingness of the unions and their thugs to behave like brownshirted nazis.


38 posted on 10/20/2004 6:49:06 AM PDT by Pylot
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To: Josh in PA

Personally, I liked the Afghan approach. Mark thumbs with permanent ink !

Would eliminate at least the multiple voting.


39 posted on 10/20/2004 6:52:25 AM PDT by dartuser (Only takes one moment of truth for an unbeliever to become an evangelist.)
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To: ShadowAce
People in St. Louis and Kansas City are allowed to vote twice.

Everybody knows that.

40 posted on 10/20/2004 6:58:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (I actually voted for John Kerry, before I voted against him.)
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