Posted on 10/20/2004 5:03:51 AM PDT by TBBT
Zogby still shows it tied. I was hoping for a 1 or 2 point uptick for Bush since one weekend day has rolled off. Wonder were it will be when Sunday rolls off?....
What a punishing reply.
Especially coming from someone who's been around all of 18 days.
Is that you Courage?
;-)
LLS
There has been alot more than ad hominem attacks , there have been facts and charts to backup the concensus. And if CBG is not a Troll, i would be shocked cuz he has been spewing democratic talking points and cherry picking selected data to prove his points EXACTLY as Dims traditionally do. Again suggest you go back and read all entries in this thread to get up to speed
I don't pretend to know which pollster's right in this election; you'll notice I haven't argued that in this thread. Currently CBS has Bush up two points, which if I had to guess is probably accurate (based on all other polling firms' results). Make no mistake: I want badly for Bush to win this thing.
My comments on this thread center around what I see as a tendency on the part of many posters here to discount those polls that don't reinforce their predispositions. It's a dangerous and foolish strategy to simply attribute Zogby's poll to "Special Sauce" when he proved accurate in 1996 and 2000 (CBS and Harris notwithstanding).
Zogby has changed his polling methodology since the 2000 election. Therefore, using his record from that election is not relevent to how accurate he is now. Furthermore, in 2000 he TIED with 5 other pollsters in determining the results of that election. He was NOT the most accurate. He was average. Your opinion is interesting. Your facts are way off.
Yes, perhaps CBG registered six years ago, and posted thousands of times - simply to establish an elaborate cover for his trolling activities in the 2004 election. < /sarcasm >
Perhaps after another few months on the forum, you'll learn that divergent viewpoints are our strength. Given the fact that you've been a member of DU longer than FreeRepublic, I'll just assume you haven't seen that dynamic in the past.
In the meantime, I'd stick to more facts and less claims that your adversary of the moment is a Democrat.
I refer you to my Post 168.
The Scholasitic Kids Projection Poll just came out W52 K47 N1....has only been wrong twice since 1940. I know it's a kids poll but it's pretty da$# hard to argue with that record of accuracy
"That's not good news. However, Bush's approval rate is WAY below the 50% reelect rate. You can't beat math with hope and ignorance."
Huh? His approval average is over 49%...
And sir, i would suggest that you do the same by not attacking someone in here because of there opinion (whether you believe it or not) based on the length of time they have been a member. That is truly the height of elitism and arrogance. And as a "republican true believer" that is something i would hope never becomes a part of our psyche
My, but you're a shrill one. Zogby's performance has been strong in 1996 and 2000. In 2000 while other pollsters were predicting easy Bush wins he was warning that the election was tight. (Standard Disclaimer: CBS and Harris were closer)
He was duly discounted by everyone on this site (including me) as using a bad turnout formula. Yet we were wrong and he was right.
I see parallels to 2000 in the thread here, and I'm not foolish enough to exhibit the same overconfidence again. Writing his polls off to "Special Sauce" and calling anyone who disagrees a democrat plant is pathetically weak, and spectacularly foolish.
Had you been around four years ago, perhaps you'd better understand my point of view.
Another of CBG "selected" bits- o- data
I'll tell you what: act with the decorum of a long-time poster, and I guarantee I won't bring the length of your membership into the conversation. Claim that a longtime poster is a Democrat plant, and I'm going to question how you could possibly learn that in four weeks.
Fair enough?
"Not dilusional, just factual. Bush's job approval rating was at 44 percent, one of the lowest during his tenure, and a majority of voters said they disapproved the way he had handled the economy and the war in Iraq, and that his tax cuts had favored the wealthy.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-10/20/content_2113186.htm"
Factual? The same article you quote states: "A new Washington Post poll published on Tuesday, however, foundBush's job approving rating at 54 percent, and the president was holding a slender lead over Kerry, 50 percent to 47 percent, with independent candidate Nader getting 1 percent of the likely votes."
Again for the third time read all the comments and tell me you don't have "suspicians"
Tradesports just hit 60 folks!
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