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Vanity: How Much Will Voter Fraud Matter? Is the Fix In?
Posted on 10/19/2004 10:22:41 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
OK, here's my fear: I am up late on election night, and state after state that was considered a swing state falls for Kerry. After much attention to this race we all know that the fix was in, and that Kerry has stolen the election. What do we do? Does anyone else think Kerry has the fix lined up? Am I paranoid? Should I fear the fix?
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To: sonsofliberty2000; swilhelm73
I notice in West Michigan the local Republican office never seems to be quite in the loop. Anyway, the State GOP is in charge of organizing the 72 Hour Plan (we are training this week). They are also calling it the 96 Hour Plan, they have added a day. Anyway, they need all kinds of help and I'm sure they aren't turning volunteers away, particularly in any of the closer states.
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posted on
10/19/2004 10:50:08 PM PDT
by
Dolphy
(It's not a plan, it's an echo)
To: My2Cents
LOL!
You have always had a marvelous way with words!
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posted on
10/19/2004 10:51:03 PM PDT
by
onyx
(John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
To: Weirdad
"You can ROT IN PRISON for VOTER FRAUD!" The sad thing is that voter fraud is almost entirely unprosecuted. Until we do that we will have more of it, every election. Those that do prosecute will be demonized and vilified as not letting "every vote count", suppressing minority votes, intimidating voters ... you name it. Gonna take some big brass ones to get that job done.
An interesting angle is that some of the worst, shameless, vote-stealing crooks have gotten so emboldened that they are now asking outside (non-U.S.) people to monitor the fairness of our elections. Wouldn't it be great if these people report the blatant cheating the dems are ready to do. Of course, those same crooks have probably paid off the observers already in a close imitation of Saddam's oil-for-food criminality.
To: charleston1; flashbunny
Bush in good shape in Florida
Florida GOP and rat voter turnout in 2000 and 2002:
2002
2,828,288 56% GOP
2,172,702 43% RAT
2000
2,909,176 49 % GOP
2,907,451 49 % RAT
Approx. 750,000 less rats and 80,000 less GOP turned out (10-1) in 2002 than in 2000.
This in spite of the fact that 2002 was supposed to be "revenge" against Jeb for 2000
Kerry is not going to do any better than Gore, a lot of people that voted Gore last time are for Bush, the same can't be said for the rats.
I guess its just a coincidence, but 2002 was the first year they used those computer voting machines, doing away with those pesky chads.
Could it be that the stupid rats haven't figured out a way to cheat these machines yet, could that be a factor in the mystery of the disappearing dems?
After all, its a lot harder for a bunch of foaming at the mouth socialist morons to "lose" ballot boxes, or punch thousands of ballots after the polls have closed, to fool a computer.
Democrats engaged in massive vote fraud in Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade in 2000.
They have been trumped by the computer.
No wonder they are pissed
W should break 3,000,000.
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posted on
10/19/2004 11:06:53 PM PDT
by
Rome2000
(The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
To: sonsofliberty2000
"Does anyone else think Kerry has the fix lined up?"
I think it is, just like 2000. During the last election I thought it strange that Bush could be ahead in the polls but lose the popular vote.
It was a mistake for Republicans to let it slide last time. They should have went after every case of vote fraud and made it very public. This is one of the most important things that should be done after this election. If we don't send the message that vote fraud will not be tolerated, it'll only get worse.
To: sonsofliberty2000
Vote fraud should be a capital offense. With one cheat, thieves and liberal powerlusters can cancel the effort of thousands of sovereigns of America. Last I looked, treason is a capital crime. [And yes, I'm serious as a heart attack about executing gross vote frauders of either party!]
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posted on
10/19/2004 11:17:50 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: Rome2000
"After all, its a lot harder for a bunch of foaming at the mouth socialist morons to "lose" ballot boxes, or punch thousands of ballots after the polls have closed, to fool a computer."
Yes, I think that makes perfect sense. Grat analysis in the rest of your post too.
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posted on
10/19/2004 11:21:44 PM PDT
by
charleston1
(No prisoners.)
To: sonsofliberty2000
I recently expressed such concerns at our local Victory office in PA, asking if anything was being done to counteract the massive fraud obviously underway by the Democrats, (just look at what they are accusing their enemies of to know what they're up to). I was assured that Republicans are all over it and not-to-worry.
Still, I'd reiterate the advice of any earlier poster to this thread: OFFER TO HELP! The weekend before the election your local Victory office will need people to call Republican homes to encourage them to vote, as well as drivers and door knockers doing the same. On election day they need people to be poll watchers and also people calling Republican homes and asking if they have voted and, if they need transportation, to provide it.
The handfull of votes your effort might influence could wind up influencing the rest of our lives!
To: PlushieWithTeeth
The Mayor of the City of Milwaukee wants 900,000 ballots for the fewer than 300,000 registered voters living there.
That's enough fraudulent ballots to carry WI, easily.
They got away with massive fraud in 2000. No city or precinct is ever going to have 100+% turnout like they had in Detroit, Philly and other DemMachine cities.
And they were never called on it.
Now, they're more bold.
They're going to create as many ballots as they need to win this.
If they get away with it this time, kiss this country good-bye. I'm sorry to say I think we're as close to the end of our republic as we've ever been.
As I've sen posted here before, the Democrats are fully prepared to destroy our nation to rule it.
To: sonsofliberty2000
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posted on
10/20/2004 12:07:31 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
To: onyx
counting on the swiftboat vets/
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posted on
10/20/2004 12:22:56 AM PDT
by
des
To: Razz Barry
I too think that in 2000, Bush actually won the popular vote, due to massive fraud by the dims it won't count. Slimeballs like Soros are funding more massive fraud and intimidation.
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posted on
10/20/2004 12:36:42 AM PDT
by
tkathy
(There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
To: SFConservative
So true. The sentiment is that we should START prosecuting precisely because of that. A deterrent is needed.
The place to start is LOACLLY. Just grass roots local prosecutions. Even if jurisdiction is iffy, make them appeal it if necessary.
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posted on
10/20/2004 1:17:03 AM PDT
by
Weirdad
(A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
To: CalRepublican
But:
All the extra ballots must be returned.
Ballots are coded by precinct, so the areas of fraud will be pinpointed.
Our campaign in WI is scrutinizing and cross-checking absentee ballots as they come in.
We will have poll watchers. They will have phones and there is one attorney for every 3 polling places on call.
The City must pay the County for the extra ballots. The County Exec is a Republican. The Milwaukee talk hosts have been on this for a month or more.
Provisional voters have to answer questions about who registered them, what day of the week and what time of day, in writing. The provisional voter must show up w/the copy of his provisional ballot and and ID w/in 24 hours or the vote doesn't count.
We are ready to challenge in the university areas, too.
Out state looks to be very strong for Bush, and the suburbs and smaller incorporated cities around Milwaukee are Republican. The communities that surround Madison are full of Evangelicals. There are quiet conservatives in Madison. There are a lot of Catholics in Milwaukee.
It isn't as bad as it looks from the paper and they may have the ballots, but they cannot manufacture real live people w/ID to get the provisional ballots counted.
We're all worried, but we are doing what we can. We had a prosecution this summer of a student who double voted in Eau Claire in 2002. It was publicized. There are Republican students and they are ratting out people who brag about multiple registrations and voting.
We are doing what we can, everywhere.
To: sonsofliberty2000
Will Bush and top leaders of his administration be arrested after Kerry wins? We are close to the coming social war.
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posted on
10/20/2004 6:19:54 AM PDT
by
AEMILIUS PAULUS
(Further, the statement assumed)
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