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Judge in MI Gives Democrats Another Coup for Vote Fraud
Newsmax ^ | 10-19-2004 | Newsmax

Posted on 10/19/2004 12:05:05 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Another Clinton appointee, another victory for vote fraud.

U.S. District Judge David Lawson today ignored the Department of Justice's reasoning and decreed that Michigan must count provisional ballots even when cast in the wrong precinct(s). The ruling against fair elections is a major victory for the Democrat party and the Democrat group NAACP, which had sued for the fraud-friendly fiat.

Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land, a Republican, had noted that only votes cast in the correct precinct were legal and should count.

In a a friend-of-the-court brief, attorneys for the Department of Justice wrote: "American elections have long been precinct-based. A well-understood premise of such a system is that a voter must appear at the correct polling place - the one to which the voter was assigned, and on whose rolls the voter appears - or else the voter will not be able to vote."

Lawson, like fellow fraud-fostering U.S. District Judge James Carr in Ohio, is a Clinton appointee. The Democrat-run Florida Supreme Court, however, ruled yesterday against such abuses of provisional ballots. A judge in Colorado yesterday issued a mixed ruling.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; election; fraud; kerry
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1 posted on 10/19/2004 12:05:06 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
Why don't they just let us vote in whatever state we want too? I pick Ohio.

:o)

2 posted on 10/19/2004 12:07:09 PM PDT by mykroar ("Pearl Harbor" sucked . . . .and I miss you.)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
From WLNS-TV.

LANSING, Mich. A federal judge has ruled that Michigan must count provisional ballots cast by voters who show up at the wrong polling precincts but are in the right city, township or village.

U-S District Judge David Lawson issued an injunction today barring Republican Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land from ordering election officials to NOT count provisional ballots unless voters appear in the right precinct.

Provisional, or backup, ballots are used when voters say they are properly registered but their names do NOT appear on the voter registration rolls.


3 posted on 10/19/2004 12:08:10 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: mykroar

Note to Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land:

Just say no.

(A constitutional crisis is not the problem, it's the solution.)


4 posted on 10/19/2004 12:09:20 PM PDT by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Notice how these provisional ballot fights are mostly in the bigger states (more electoral votes) like OH, MI, PA, MY, FL etc....If the Dems don't like a law, they just get one of their puppet judges to overturn it. Amazing.


5 posted on 10/19/2004 12:09:56 PM PDT by PilloryHillary (John Kerry is a nuisance! johnfkerrysucks.com)
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To: Chemist_Geek

And when I get stopped on the highway there, I'll just get a provisional driver's license from the cop, and when I try to get back into this country from abroad, I'll use my provisional passport that they'll give me at Immigration.

What a great country!


6 posted on 10/19/2004 12:10:53 PM PDT by 2thfxr ( letter I sent to Nightline)
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To: johnfkerrysucks

Why is it that these cases are always assigned to judges who are clinton appointees? A bit odd, isn't it, since more than half the district judges were appointed by Reagan or the Bushes.


7 posted on 10/19/2004 12:11:33 PM PDT by laconic
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
so if I vote in the "wrong" precinct, and there are questions on the ballot that effect the "wrong" precinct, then the votes will count???

I still have to read the entire article, but this is BS.....

8 posted on 10/19/2004 12:14:01 PM PDT by rface (Ashland, Missouri - monthly donor /bad speller)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

I hope the state plans on appealing the decision.


9 posted on 10/19/2004 12:14:46 PM PDT by pctech
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To: Chemist_Geek

Calling Mike Cox!


10 posted on 10/19/2004 12:17:39 PM PDT by apackof2 (Damn the torpedos! Full speed ahead!)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Why have any rules at all? *sigh*


11 posted on 10/19/2004 12:19:59 PM PDT by Lost Highway (The things of earth will grow strangely dim in the light of his glory and grace.)
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To: mykroar
Why don't they just let us vote in whatever state we want too? I pick Ohio.

If that's the case, then I pick Ohio, and New Jersey, and New York, and Florida, and California, and...

Clearly, one of the big problems with allowing "other precinct" ballots is that while each precinct has a list of who's registered (and who has already voted) in *their* precinct, they have no quick way of verifying whether an "out of precinct" voter is even registered, or has already voted in two dozen other precincts on the same day...

12 posted on 10/19/2004 12:20:04 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
The thing that jumps out at me with these rulings is something that anyone who has ever voted will realize -- that is, that if you are in the wrong precinct, you have all the wrong names on your ballot for all the local elections and initiatives.

I realize that what's really behind this is a free pass on Democrat voter fraud, but I still don't understand the legal basis, from a judge's standpoint, of how you can cast a ballot, provisional or otherwise, where a certain percentage of the items on that ballot do not even legally pertain to you!

13 posted on 10/19/2004 12:20:20 PM PDT by Ryan Spock
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

I know this is off topic, but I love your FReep Name. Do many people know where that's from? Did you happen to go to U of I


14 posted on 10/19/2004 12:22:09 PM PDT by dannyboy72 (it's time to take on the media)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
Both the Ohio and Michigan ruling should be appealed in the 6th Circuit. They are both in that court's jurisdiction. The Michigan Judge probably relied upon the other judge as "persuasive" precedent. I am not familiar enough with the substantive law to know what the chances of reversal are. I assume that if they just made this up then there is a good chance of reversal. If it is based on an unambiguous federal statute then I fear it will be upheld. If the judges are wrong then there is chance that a stay may be granted by the 6th Circuit. Pray.
15 posted on 10/19/2004 12:22:50 PM PDT by Clump
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To: Ichneumon

If that's the case, then I pick Ohio, and New Jersey, and New York, and Florida, and California, and... "

Lord Save Us. Banana Republic here we come and fast...


16 posted on 10/19/2004 12:22:58 PM PDT by SaintDismas (Jest becuz you put yer boots in the oven, don't make it bread)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

CALLING SCOTUS: Lower court slap down needed.


17 posted on 10/19/2004 12:28:36 PM PDT by Libertina (10 Little Lying MSM Networks. CBS & ABC went down, soon there'll be none!)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

OK, someone tell me how a Federal court has jusridiction over what is clearly a state matter. The state officials should just say, "Thank you for your opinion," and go on with obeying the laws as they're written.


18 posted on 10/19/2004 12:35:19 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss
Federal Court ruling subject to Federal Appeals Court review.

This ruling will not stand, but it SURE looks like the Judiciary, and most probably SCOTUS is going to be forced to decide the 2004 Presidential election . . . .

19 posted on 10/19/2004 12:39:50 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: Ryan Spock

I agree. That's what is so CRAZY about this. Apparently the judges have no problem letting these people vote for President in any precinct, but that disenfranchises those candidates that are running for local elections because they aren't no the ballot. Furthermore, it could benefit other local politicians in those other precincts.

It's just assinine what is happening.


20 posted on 10/19/2004 12:49:04 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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