Posted on 10/19/2004 9:23:41 AM PDT by tame
Yesterday, I drove by the welfare department in Bakersfield, California to see if anyone was registering voters there (as sometimes is the case). Sure enough, there was a democrat voter registration table.
Now, hold your fire on the location. In all fairness, we Republicans have sometimes registered voters at the welfare office, though with probably far less of a natural constituency.
Anyways, I parked, walked up, and listened to a woman I will refer to as "Rat-lady" as she attempted to register voters. A woman I will refer to as Maisha came over to the table to register to vote. (Maisha may have been an employee of the Dept.)
Maisha indicated that she wanted to register as an independent, but Rat-lady told Maisha that she had to register as a Democrat since Rat-lady was working for the Democrat party.
I spoke up and told Rat-lady that she was wrong. I said that I am a Republican who registers voters for the GOP, and that Maisha can register any way she wants to.
I told both of them that it's not legal for Rat-lady to tell anyone that they "have to" register as a Democrat.
Rat-lady told me to "quit telling me how to do my job".
I said, "But what you're doing is illegal and I can report you to the elections office." [Secretary of State, etc.]
Rat-lady told me to "have at it" (which I later did by leaving a message re the incident on the voice mail of an elections official in Bakersfield).
Sometime during our exchange, and only after I said Rat-lady was doing something illegal, Rat-lady indicated that Maisha can take the registration form with her and mail it herself. I think Maisha did this, but I'm not sure.
Keep in mind this was the last day to register in California in order to be able to vote in the upcoming election.
Maisha seemed very concerned that if she did not register as a democrat, then Rat-lady would not turn in the voter registration card on time (I mentioned that was a real possibility).
Maisha also indicated she might register as a Democrat for now (if she gave the card back to Rat-lady to turn in) so she would not miss the deadline, and be able to vote in the upcoming election.
Bottom line: Maisha seemed intimidated by a very coercive Democrat.
But that's not all. Consider this irony: During the course of our exchange, Rat-lady took a stab at Republicans (since I mentioned I did voter Registration for them) by mentioning the alleged Democat voter registrations that were trashed in Las Vegas.
I then mentioned the story I read about [someone with ties to the NAACP] the rats' allegedly paying for voter registration cards with crack cocaine.
Meanwhile, Maisha was starting to laugh at the whole exchange.
Now, folks, Maisha was a black lady. And the Rat-lady seemed to want to disenfranchise Maisha's right to register with the party of her choice, or to register as an independent if she so chooses.
Do you think Jesse Jackson will be coming to fight alongside me against the 'rats in Bakersfield?
I like the way you call her "Rat-lady".
Good job, both of you!
Voter registration should be scrapped altogether. We need a national population register system where the citizenship status of each resident is recorded to. When an election nears, each resident eligible to vote would be sent a notification indicating the voting time and place. Picture ID would be required at the polling site and compared against the national registration system. This is how it works in most of Europe. No more illegal aliens voting, no more voter manipulation by people registering voters.
You have a valid point.
O.K.--say I am a registered Dem and go to Primary in your state--can I say no, I changed my mind--I want a Republican ballot? After all we are entitled to change our minds since we are allowed to vote early and often!
No.
And if you show up at the wrong polling place you won't be allowed to vote. They make you go to the one you're assigned to.
I agree with that but it is not true in Ohio. They can vote in any precinct within the county on the provisional ballot.
Are you saying that I cannot change my mind in a primary--as to political declaration.
I'm glad you were there and I am glad you stood your ground. If you saw this happening by chance, you can be assured it is happening several other places. I am especially glad you reported it, but in CA I don't feel real confident anything will happen...hope I'm wrong.
I hope Maisha took away from that experience that maybe the democrats have their best interests in mind, not hers.
Can I just say that whatever the Dems accuse the Repubs of doing is usually what they Dems are doing themselves. Back in 2000 a (Republican) friend's son registered to vote for the first time through MTV's "Rock the Vote". My friend was so happy because her son had decided to register as a Republican. Well, come to find out on election day, when this young man went to the polls to vote - HE WASN'T REGISTERED! The dems have been playing this game for a long time.
Rat-Lady mad Maisha is trying to get off the plantation.
Historically in Chicago, unregistered people are more likely to be independent or Republican than registered people. This is because the precinct captain aggressively registers people who will vote his way and aggressively looks for some way to "lose" the registration of people who do not vote his way.
It is also because the Republican powers that be don't understand this and thus do not seek out those unregistered people in the Democrat city.
BTW. This pattern is true regardless of race, etc. This is a comment about pragmatic politics; not race.
Can't a person register as democrat and vote Republican?
Of course you can. Registering as Dim or republican only affects primaries where you have to vote for which candidate of your party you want to run for election
...however, IF the person registered as a Democrat wouldn't her name go into the Dem computers? Wouldn't they find out how she voted? They may check-up on persons of color to make sure they vote "correctly."
Nah. Guess my tin-foil hat is on too tightly.
I agree. If a person has to begged or bribed to vote they are probably the kind of person who shouldn't even bother.
OH, I have seen that pasty-skinned vegan outside the Ralph's in Hillcrest. Once she asked me to register as I was wheeling my buggy to my car, not 20 yards in front of her. As I returned my buggy to the store mere seconds later, she asked me again. I must be quite unremarkable looking, or else she was just confused by the act of someone returning a cart.
SOURCE: http://www.conservativeaction.org/resources.php3?nameid=votefraud
How Democrats Steal Elections - Top 10 Methods of Liberal Vote Fraud
1. Over-Voting. In Democrat strongholds like St. Louis, Philadelphia and Detroit, some precincts had 100% of their registered voters voting, with 99% of the ballots going to Gore. Clearly, multiple voting resulted in extra tallies for Gore in the 2000 election. (New York Post, 12/09/00).
2. Dead Voters. This classic Democratic method of vote fraud goes all the way back to 1960 in Chicago and Dallas. The 2000 election was no exception. In Miami-Dade County, for example, some of the 144 ineligible votes (those which officials actually admitted to) were cast by dead people, including a Haitian-American who's been deceased since 1977 (Miami-Herald, 12/24/00).
3. Mystery Voters. These "voters" cast votes anyway but are not even registered to vote. In heavily Democratic Broward County, for example, more than 400 ballots were cast by non-registered voters. (Miami-Herald 1/09/01)
4. Military ballots. Many of these votes were disqualified for the most mundane and trivial reasons. At least 1,527 valid military ballots were discarded in Florida by Democratic vote counters (Drudge Report, 11/19/00).
5. Criminals. Felons are a natural Democratic voter and they're protected on voter rolls across the country. In Florida at least 445 ex-convicts - including rapists and murderers -- voted illegally on November 7th. Nearly all of them were registered Democrats. (Miami-Herald 12/01/00)
6. Illegal aliens. These voters have long been a core liberal constituency, especially in California. In Orange County in 1996, Rep. Bob Dornan had his congressional seat stolen from him when thousands of illegal aliens voted for Loretta Sanchez (Christian Science Monitor, 9/2/97).
7. Vote-buying. Purchasing votes has long been a traditional scheme by Democrats, and not just with money. In the 2000 election in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Democratic workers initiate a "smokes-for-votes" campaign in which they paid dozens of homeless men with cigarettes if they cast ballots for Al Gore (Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 11/14/00).
8. Phantom Voters. These voters don't really exist, but their ballots do. In the 1996 Lousiana Senate race, GOP candidate Woody Jenkins had the election stolen from him when he discovered that 7,454 actual votes were cast but had no paper trail to authenticate them (Behind the Headlines, F.R. Duplantier, 4/27/97).
9. Dimpled chads. Those infamous punch-cards were a ballot bonanza for Al Gore. Democratic poll workers in Palm Beach, Dade and Broward counties tampered and manipulated thousands of ineligible ballots and counted them for Gore, even though no clear vote could be discerned. (NewsMax.com 11/27, 12/22, 11/18, 11/19/00).
10. Absentee ballots. Normally it's assumed that Republicans benefit from absentee ballots. But in the case of Miami's 1997 mayoral election, hundreds of absentee ballots were made for sale or sent out to non-Miami residents. Fraud was so extensive in the race that the final results were overturned in court (FL Dept. of Law Enforcement Report, 1/5/98)."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=votefraud
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=electionfraud
WE MUST FIGHT VOTE FRAUD!
too be honest, i think this happens so much that it would not qualify as news :o(
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