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George Soros: Wake up America, or live with the consequences - (BARF ALERT!)
The Australian ^ | 10/19/04 | George Soros

Posted on 10/19/2004 8:45:28 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature

I HAVE never been heavily involved in partisan politics, but these are not normal times. George W. Bush is endangering the US and the world's safety while undermining American values. For opposing him, I have been demonised by the Bush campaign.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 10/19/2004 8:45:29 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature
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To: K4Harty

Thanks, but I prefer George Bush's America to George Soro's...ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!!!


2 posted on 10/19/2004 8:46:33 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: K4Harty

Eff you Soros, you money changing commie pig.


3 posted on 10/19/2004 8:47:41 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Always ask yourself, does this pass the Global Test?)
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To: K4Harty
But democracy cannot be imposed by force.

Has this friggin' idiot ever heard of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany?

This is utterly astounding idiocy on parade.

4 posted on 10/19/2004 8:48:20 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: K4Harty

I HAVE never been heavily involved in partisan politics, but these are not normal times. George W. Bush is endangering the US and the world's safety while undermining American values. For opposing him, I have been demonised by the Bush campaign.

Bush ran in 2000 on a platform promising a "humble" foreign policy. If he is re-elected, the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive action – and the invasion of Iraq – will be endorsed, and the world will have to live with the consequences.

By repudiating Bush's policies at the polls, the US will have a chance to regain the world's respect and support.

The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, required a strong response. But they also led to suspension of the critical process so essential to a democracy: a full and fair discussion of the issues.

Bush silenced criticism by calling it unpatriotic. For 18 months after September 11, he managed to suppress all dissent. That is how he led the US in the wrong direction.









In fact, Bush played right into the hands of Osama bin Laden. Afghanistan's invasion was justified: that was where bin Laden lived and al-Qa'ida had its training camps. Invading Iraq was not. It was Bush's unintended gift to bin Laden.

Immediately after September 11, there was a spontaneous outpouring of sympathy for the US worldwide. It has given way to widespread resentment. There are many more people willing to risk their lives to kill Americans than there were on September 11.

Bush likes to insist terrorists hate Americans for what they are – a freedom-loving people – not what they do. But war and occupation create innocent victims. We count the body bags of American soldiers – more than 1000 in Iraq. The wider world also counts the Iraqis who get killed daily, perhaps 20 times more.

Nor was the torture of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison the work of a few bad apples. It was part of a system of dealing with prisoners put in place by Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Public opinion condemns the US worldwide, and our troops in Iraq are paying the price.

Bush convinced people that he is good for US security by playing on the fears generated by the September 11 attacks. At a time of peril, people rally around the flag, and Bush exploited this by fostering a sense of danger.

His campaign assumes that people do not really care about the truth and will believe almost anything if it is repeated often enough. There must be something wrong with Americans if we fall for it.

For instance, some 40 per cent of Americans still believe that Saddam Hussein was connected with September 11, although the September 11 Commission – set up by Bush and chaired by a Republican – definitively established that no such connection existed. I want to shout: "Wake up America. Don't you realise we are being misled?"

The war in Iraq was misconceived from start to finish -- if it has a finish. It is a war of choice, not necessity. Moreover, the US went to war on false pretences. Weapons of mass destruction could not be found, and the connection with al-Qa'ida could not be established. Bush then claimed the US went to war to liberate Iraq. But democracy cannot be imposed by force.

Saddam was a tyrant, and Iraqis – and the world – can rejoice in being rid of him. But the US had an obligation to maintain law and order; instead, we stood idly by while Baghdad and many other cities were ransacked.

If we had cared about the Iraqi people, we should have had more troops available for the occupation. We should have provided protection not only for the Oil Ministry, but also other ministries, museums, and hospitals.

Worse still, when American soldiers encountered resistance, they employed methods – invading homes and mistreating prisoners – that alienated and humiliated the population, generating resentment and rage.

The Bush administration's flip-flops and missteps are legion. First the Iraqi army was dissolved, then the US tried to reconstitute it. First the US tried to eliminate the Baathists, then the US turned to them for help. When the insurgency became intractable, the US installed an Iraqi Government. The man chosen to lead it was a protege of the CIA with a reputation for being a strongman – a far cry from democracy.

Despite the Bush campaign's efforts at spin control, the situation in Iraq is dire. Much of the western part of the country has been ceded to insurgents, the prospect of holding free and fair elections in January is fast receding and civil war looms.

Bush's war in Iraq has done untold damage to the US as well, impairing its military power and undermining the morale of the armed forces.

Before the war, the US could project overwhelming force. Not anymore. Afghanistan is slipping from control. North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, and other countries pursue nuclear programs with renewed vigour.

The Bush administration can be criticised for many other policies, but none are as important as Iraq. The war has cost nearly $US200 billion ($273 billion), and costs will continue to mount, because getting into Iraq was much easier than getting out will be.

Bush has been taunting John Kerry to explain how he would do things differently. Kerry has responded that he would have done everything differently, and that he would be in a better position to extricate us. But it won't be easy for him, either, because the US is caught in a quagmire.

Top military and diplomatic experts warned Bush not to invade Iraq. He ignored them. He suppressed the critical process, arguing that any criticism of the Commander-in-Chief put US troops at risk.

But this is Bush's war, and he ought to be held responsible for it. Americans should step back for a moment and ask: who got them into this mess?

Financier and philanthropist George Soros is president of Soros Fund Management and chairman of the Open Society Foundation.
Project Syndicate


5 posted on 10/19/2004 8:49:23 AM PDT by Helms
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To: K4Harty
What does this Greek billionaire know about American values?

Get out of MY country, enemy of my country!!

6 posted on 10/19/2004 8:50:02 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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To: K4Harty

We received a mailing from Soros. We sent it back, "delivery refused". Hope he gets all of them back and has to pay all of the return postage!


7 posted on 10/19/2004 8:51:52 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: K4Harty

Is it me or does it seem like Soros after
having made billions under the US capitalist
system wants to restrict access to that
system by everyone else in the free world???

I mean, we are talking about the Kerry elitists
who know what is best for me and you and know
what we should be allowed and what we should be
denied. For our own good of course.

I subscribed to a financial newsletter some yrs
ago by Mark Skousen. He constantly stated that
the best revenge against liberalism was getting
rich. I was young then and just starting out.
I have found that he was soooooooooooooooooooo
right. So, my fellow conservatives, if you want
to get back at libs, save your pennies and buy
stocks and other equity-based assets! And keep
buying!! Of course, this is not an endorsement
to buy any asset at any time at any price. Please
do your homework.

MV


8 posted on 10/19/2004 8:52:58 AM PDT by madvlad
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To: Helms
Before the war, the US could project overwhelming force. Not anymore. Afghanistan is slipping from control. North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, and other countries pursue nuclear programs with renewed vigour.

Don't mean before Clinton?

Truth is, we can still project overwhelming force anywhere in the world. We just are not using it that way.

Its a pity, actually.
9 posted on 10/19/2004 8:53:16 AM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: K4Harty
I HAVE never been heavily involved in partisan politics, but these are not normal times.- George Soros

In the words of the great fat slob of an AmeriKan....Ted Kennedy quote....... "Lie......... af-ta Lie........af-ta lie..........af-ta lie!!!!

10 posted on 10/19/2004 8:53:20 AM PDT by thingumbob (Kerry/Edwards are sKerry/Leftwards)
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To: K4Harty

Is it me or does it seem like Soros after
having made billions under the US capitalist
system wants to restrict access to that
system by everyone else in the free world???

I mean, we are talking about the Kerry elitists
who know what is best for me and you and know
what we should be allowed and what we should be
denied. For our own good of course.

I subscribed to a financial newsletter some yrs
ago by Mark Skousen. He constantly stated that
the best revenge against liberalism was getting
rich. I was young then and just starting out.
I have found that he was soooooooooooooooooooo
right. So, my fellow conservatives, if you want
to get back at libs, save your pennies and buy
stocks and other equity-based assets! And keep
buying!! Of course, this is not an endorsement
to buy any asset at any time at any price. Please
do your homework.

MV


11 posted on 10/19/2004 8:53:28 AM PDT by madvlad
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To: K4Harty

Alex, I'll take "Consequences" for $800.


12 posted on 10/19/2004 8:54:49 AM PDT by LI conservative
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To: Little Ray
Soros is an evil genius. Its all Moveon.org stuff recycled repeatedly.

"HEY NOW WHATS THAT SOUND, EVERYBODY LOOK WHATS GOING DOWN :" A lot of us have known for some time there was something wrong in the world but it was difficult to pin down and put our fingers on. It was like an itch we could never scratch." We used to call these people "the left," and still do I suppose, but many of those pushing this apparently "left-wing" agenda seem to be high-level statesmen, the wealthy and the heads of multibillion-dollar corporations"- David Carr - coining "Transnational Progressivism" (.pdf - 60 sec. download )

13 posted on 10/19/2004 8:56:39 AM PDT by Helms
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To: K4Harty
I Have Always Harboured An Exaggerated View Of My Self-Importance ... To Put It Bluntly, I Fancied Myself As Some Kind Of God Or An Economic Reformer Like Keynes, Or, Even Better, Like Einstein."

-Soros

14 posted on 10/19/2004 8:58:31 AM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: K4Harty

ENEMY OF THE STATE!


15 posted on 10/19/2004 8:59:17 AM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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To: madvlad

I agree with your statements. He is a complete hypocrite.


16 posted on 10/19/2004 9:00:16 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I'm George W. Bush and I approved this message.)
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To: K4Harty

Hey, I would prefer the traditionalist America that President Bush represents than the Commie one you want for us. You're an idiot, George Soros, you can go and practice your idea of paradise in places like Cuba and North Korea. While you're at it, take Kerry/Edwards with you. /rant>


17 posted on 10/19/2004 9:00:58 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: K4Harty
 I have been demonised
 
sorry pal, you were a demon long before this
 
(google soros images , and come up with a plant fungus.... very interesting)
 

18 posted on 10/19/2004 9:04:07 AM PDT by backinthefold (I just got my right-wing agenda, I have 12 credits, anyone want to join a study group?)
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To: K4Harty

Soros is a frontman for the Rothchilds machine aka New World Order aka Globalists.


19 posted on 10/19/2004 9:05:43 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: K4Harty
The caption Wake up America or live with the consequences is humorous coming from Soros. I hope they do wake up and vote for a true patriot President Bush or the consequences will be a disaster. At least on one thing-the caption- Soros is correct.
20 posted on 10/19/2004 9:21:23 AM PDT by nclady
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