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Professor suing "Stolen Valor" producer was a Winter Soldier Witness (admitted to atrocities)
AP, The Sixties Project, Vietnam Veterans and War Crimes Hearings | October 18, 2004

Posted on 10/18/2004 6:32:56 PM PDT by Fatalis

Earlier today the Associated Press reported that Professor Kenneth W. Campbell is suing the director of "Stolen Valor" (a documentary about events relating to Senator John Kerry's antiwar activities in 1971) for libel. Campbell states:

in the suit that "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal" combines footage of him appearing at a 1971 war protest with narration that claims that many of the supposed veterans who took part in the event were later "discovered as frauds" who "never set foot on the battlefield, or left the comfort of the States, or even served in uniform."

The suit said viewers would be left with the perception that Campbell had lied about his military service.

So what did Campbell say about his military service?

Here is an excerpt of Kenneth Campbell's testimony before the Winter Soldier Investigation in 1971:

CAMPBELL. My name is Kenneth J. Campbell. I'm 21. I'm a Philadelphia resident. I was a Corporal in the Marine Corps. I was an FO, Forward Artillery Scout Observer. I FO'd for Bravo Company, First Battalion, First Marine Regiment, First Marine Division. I was in Vietnam from February of '68 to March of '69. I went straight into the Marine Corps from high school and I am now a student at Temple University in Philadelphia. My testimony will consist of eyewitnessing and participating in the calling in of artillery on undefended villages, mutilation of bodies, killing of civilians, mistreatment of civilians, mistreatment of prisoners and indiscriminate use of artillery, harassment and interdiction fire.

In the 1992 article Vietnam Veterans and War Crimes Hearings, co-written with Elliott L. Meyrowitz, Campbell wrote:

The veterans who testified at these war crimes hearings had ending the Vietnam War as their ultimate objective. But does this mean, therefore, that the atrocities described did not happen, or if they did happen, that they were not war crimes? These former infantrymen, pilots, artillery observers, and interrogators did not testify to witnessing or participating in atrocities in Vietnam because they opposed the war; rather, they opposed the war because they had witnessed or participated in atrocities.

It's interesting that while Campbell was arguing for the veracity of the Winter Soldier testimonies failed to mention his own admissions about the atrocities that he, himself, had testified that he'd witnessed and participated in while serving in Vietnam.

In any case, Campbell resists any suggestion that his Winter Soldier testimony was not truthful:

The suit names the film's producer, Carlton Sherwood, and his company, Red White and Blue Productions, as defendants.

"I'd be darned if I'm going to sit back and let someone libel me like this," said Campbell. "It paints me as having been a fabricator, a fraud and a liar."

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The segment of "Stolen Honor" involving Campbell is posted on the film's Web site. It shows grainy footage of him speaking with a fellow Marine a 1971 gathering in Detroit, during which Kerry and other servicemen shared stories about horrific acts they had committed or witnessed during the war.

In the clip, Campbell asks whether the Marine recalls a particular assault on a village in Vietnam's Quang Tri province. The Marine, who served in the same unit as Campbell, says he does and offers to provide more detail. Neither man is identified by name.

Sherwood introduces the conversation by saying, "many of the horror stories seem made up on the spot," but doesn't elaborate as to why he believes that to be the case.

Veterans groups that supported the war have long argued with anti-war groups about the veracity of the alleged war crimes described during the event, dubbed the "Winter Soldier" hearings.

Campbell, then 21, said at the time that he had seen American forces shell undefended villages, kill civilians, mutilate bodies and mistreat prisoners.

However, we've seen from Campbell's Winter Soldier testimony above that he not only claimed to have witnessed atrocities in Vietnam, but to have particpated in them as well.

Kenneth J. Campbell will have no one besmirch his record as an honest war criminal.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: kennethcampbell; kennethjcampbell; napalminthemorning; vietnam; wintersoldier
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Credit to Vn_survivor_67-68 for providing the heads up to part of this on the earlier thread.
1 posted on 10/18/2004 6:32:57 PM PDT by Fatalis
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; stockpirate
Ping
2 posted on 10/18/2004 6:33:34 PM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Fatalis

Putrid puke!


3 posted on 10/18/2004 6:42:58 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Fatalis

He's worried that people will think he faked being a vet, but not a REAL war criminal.


4 posted on 10/18/2004 6:43:14 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (KERRY IS A POODLE: #1 He's French, #2 He's A Rich Woman's Pet, #3 He Won't Protect You)
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To: Fatalis

I wonder who called the Professor and said .. it's time to pay the piper ..??

Once you sell your soul to the devil .. he will require your life. I guess the men who lied about Vietnam didn't know that at the time .. but that's no excuse.


5 posted on 10/18/2004 6:49:48 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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To: Fatalis

Makes me wonder what his boss' think about having a war criminal teaching America's youth.


6 posted on 10/18/2004 6:51:00 PM PDT by Mortikhi
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To: Fatalis

This guy's a nutcase. Kinda like Kerry. He done bad, so everyone must be bad. It's a self appeasement to keep one from blowing one's brains out.


7 posted on 10/18/2004 6:52:10 PM PDT by planekT
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; MistyCA; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; EdReform
FYI
8 posted on 10/18/2004 6:56:41 PM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: planekT

He wants it both ways, I am a vietnam vet and commited attrocities, I am not a lier to be considered not a vietnam vet. Ok, you got it idiot, who is going to prosecute? I hope that University dumps the twerp!


9 posted on 10/18/2004 7:07:48 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: Fatalis

I wonder if anyone from his unit or chain of command will come forward to expose this puke.


10 posted on 10/18/2004 7:15:07 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: Fatalis

Poly Sci International Relations, easy classes just read no need to show up..even showed his Vietnam films in class according to student...

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/SelectTeacher.jsp?sid=1094&orderby=TLName&letter=C


11 posted on 10/18/2004 7:18:53 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Tribune7

Ping. A Temple war criminal. UGH!


12 posted on 10/18/2004 7:20:39 PM PDT by Temple Owl (19064)
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To: planekT
This guy's a nutcase. Kinda like Kerry. He done bad, so everyone must be bad. It's a self appeasement to keep one from blowing one's brains out.

I agree on the nutcase part. I seriously question whether or not he ever really participated in the atrocities he claims. So many of the claims at WSI were totally fabricated, I'm skeptical of all of them.

13 posted on 10/18/2004 7:32:06 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Fatalis

14 posted on 10/18/2004 7:36:34 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Bob

Momma always said you can judge a person by the company they keep.


15 posted on 10/18/2004 7:39:19 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (If it talks like a liberal, votes like a liberal and spends like a liberal, it's a liberal.)
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To: Fatalis

Is he another like Steve Pitkin, who was persuaded to lie (by F'n!) in his Winter Soldier testimony, but who, unlike Pitkin, has not the guts to now tell the truth?


16 posted on 10/18/2004 7:44:52 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Momma always said you can judge a person by the company they keep.

And by their enemies. This guy's enemies are all right-thinking people. And he is mine.

17 posted on 10/18/2004 7:46:33 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The cool points are out the window, and you got me all twisted up in the game)
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To: Fatalis
In the clip, Campbell asks whether the Marine recalls a particular assault on a village in Vietnam's Quang Tri province. The Marine, who served in the same unit as Campbell, says he does and offers to provide more detail. Neither man is identified by name.

take a look at the clip it seems the assault on the village was first forgotten by the marine until reminded about it...

....how could you forget about it I remember it and I wasn't even in on it.....

I'd like to see the testimony of the marine in on it...

http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/program-excerpts.asp

18 posted on 10/18/2004 7:48:26 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Bob
I agree. Prove any of it, then maybe someone should listen. Unfortunately some still believe this crap.

But, when people say this stuff, they may not be making it all up. If someone admits to committing war atrocities, they should be proven to be liars before we discount them.

In the case made by the Swift Boat Vets, there is actually an eyewitness to Kerry commiting atrocities, which supplements Kerry's own testimony.
19 posted on 10/18/2004 7:49:39 PM PDT by planekT
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To: Fatalis

Air the film for a solid week while attacks the critics and THEN say that is bears an internal investigation, like CBS did with the forged National Guard memos.


20 posted on 10/18/2004 7:49:47 PM PDT by weegee (Ted Kennedy, your brother defined Vietnam antiwar protesters as traitors, giving aid to Ho Chi Mihn)
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